CHEATINGCUNTS Away Sunday 22nd Sept KO 16:30pm

[xgtdec]

From F365

""Whatever sympathy it may have been possible to feel for Declan Rice for his red card against Brighton was entirely absent here. Given what we now know and have seen, there can be only assessment of a player receiving a second yellow for kicking the ball away and that is to call it what it is: recklessly, pathetically stupid.

It doesn’t matter that the law is unevenly applied. It doesn’t matter that Doku could’ve been booked for the same offence earlier in the day but wasn’t. It matters only that it is applied some of the time. There was no need for Trossard to hoof the ball, no possible gain to be had in delaying the game in that way. It was a pointless act that served only to give Oliver a decision to make when it was entirely unnecessary to do so.

The challenge itself to concede the free-kick was also a pretty hefty and unwise one in the first place.""

In absolutely any other civilized walk of life the law not being applied evenly is called discrimination. But for the very anti Arsenal brigade the advice seems to be focused on making sure your players are not idiots (which they are) but definitely do not focus on the fact that a set of referees are actively targeting our club in which to apply the rules that don't get applied elsewhere.

Any legal eagles among us who can throw light on a discrimination case if the evidence was gathered from games?

[DB10GOONER]

I'm sick of this whinging shit tbh - either the club stands up and does a proper protest or just shut up about it. I will say it again for the millionth time - trossard and rice have NO DEFENCE cos they were both wrong by the rules of the game, BUT both doku and joao pedro committed the same offences and were not punished and THAT is what the club should be fighting on. I would have no problem if the manager took the team off yesterday and refused to play the remainder of the game and would accept the commotion and backlash that would follow - some things are more important than just the 3pts and the one game, and imo there is willful double standards at play here and as a club we should be refusing to accept it. Changing their official reason for trossards second yellow doesnt change that narrative cos that mongoloid c.unt put in a worse challenge on saliba and wasnt punished so we are back at the double standards thing again.

Building a siege mentality is all well and good but our players have to engage their brain too - rice knew before the red card came out against brighton that he was after fcuking up, and whilst I agree that a lot of refs would have chosen to use common sense and issued a warning, the fact that he was nailed should have been used as a warning to the other players and yet trossard kicked the ball away blatantly yesterday. When you kick it the way he did you cant argue that you were running onto it cos a greyhound wouldnt have caught up with it ffs. Defending trossard just muddy's the waters and allows the media, fans of other teams, and the refs and premier league to label us as fans who want every decision to go their way - argue based on facts and laws of the game cos in that area the refs and premier league know they are fucked. Should doku have got yellow card ? Absolutely. Should joao pedro have received a yellow card ? Absolutely, so why are AFC players being punished and other clubs are not ? Stick to that and we have a case, but focus on defending trossard and we have our shite

Who is defending Trossard though? I haven't read anywhere here where someone has defended him, just complaints about the cheating fuckpuppet referee.

[Bob Bayliss]

It seems bizarre to me that Declan Rice is behind both Oedegaard and Saka in the pecking order as captain. He is far and away the obvious choice, and you could see the way he gave the team talk before the second half that he is the most natural leader and the closest thing we have to a modern-day Tony Adams in terms of his capacity to inspire others around him.

[DB10GOONER]

Some city players crying like babies.....FFS any team would try and use up the minutes if down to 10 men away at city...sour grapes

Lets have it right...The Arsenal were unbelievable...the spirit of Adams, Bouldy and Keown was with them....they fought as if their lives depended on it...outstanding performance

Got to give Arteta credit, this team has real togetherness and spirit, they were well set up barring their goal in whch we were caught way to open at the back

That said will go down as one of our great performances....gutted we did not win ......but proud of the way they stood up to the test

Great Post. Every word mate.

The hypocrisy of the cheateh cùnts whining about time wasting. Every team including them does it. And fucking SlySports jumping on the bandwagon as if we are the first and only team to waste time is disgusting, but I expect no better from those arseholes tbh.

Also, isn't surrounding the ref against the rules? They did it on numerous occasions yesterday.

[rodders999]

You could probably make an argument for different refs not giving yellows for the same incident in other games - like the Everton Leicester match I watched Saturday. Different refs having a different interpretation of the rule, choosing to be a bit more lenient and applying some common sense. I mean it would still be infuriating as the rules should be the rules no matter who's reffing but I could kind of get my head around it. The commentators in that game were amazed that the Everton player wasn't booked by the way - calling it the Declan Rice rule which pretty much sums it up.

But incredibly in both games where we've had a man sent off for "delaying the restart" an opposition player has done the exact same thing and not been booked - don't forget the Brighton player who hoofed it away in the first half of that match.

So what we have is the SAME referee in the SAME game seeing the SAME incident but only choosing to punish one of the teams, that's rather bizarre isn't it? Or maybe it's just a coincidence, who knows.

All I know is that in the last week Michael Oliver has reffed 2 games and in those games there have been 3 separate incidents where a player has kicked the ball away delaying the restart but he has only shown a yellow card on one of those 3 occasions. Still these things even themselves out over the course of the season eh?

[mcdowell42]

Oliver has sent off more arsenal players (7) in his career than any other team.

[General]

Had Oliver booked Doku for kicking the ball, it would’ve reminded the players that he was adopting a zero tolerance policy. He didn’t, just like Kavanagh didn’t when he failed to book Pedro, so it is quite clear the officials have become prejudiced in their application of the rules against us.

In recent years, some rules have almost been exclusively applied to us - The infamous Martinelli double booking by Oliver, surrounding of referees where no other team was sanctioned apart from us, Tomiyasu booking at Palace for time wasting immediately followed by a second yellow for a soft foul and then being the only team to have this new delaying the restart rule strictly applied to.

Just listen to this rhetoric from Howard Webb on the VAR audio before Rice’s sending off. He had no business being around the ball?


https://youtu.be/XDqD5bPNJiA?si=MhlufRga4L_I7zQk

You then have the Northern contingent of VAR effectively confirming to the referee that Rice had kicked the ball away when they were not supposed to get involved. It was obvious something was off immediately after the incident and this was because the officials were yapping in the referees ear.

The system is rotten, starting with the leadership and whilst the evidence is clear we are being targeted in some perverse attempt to prove that the rules are working, I don’t believe there’s a conspiracy. Better for us to pay the price now and learn from it because it’s a long season. There will be scandalous decisions not involving us because the officials are that incompetent and Webb has turned them into robots. Look at Bournemouth’s disallowed goal for alleged handball against Newcastle as an example. It completely went against the protocol that VAR should only get involved in overturning a decision unless there is a clear and factual evidence which there wasn’t. Webb himself admits it.

We’ve navigated the toughest schedule by any club almost unscathed and we can now build momentum away from the spotlight.

[DB10GOONER]

You could probably make an argument for different refs not giving yellows for the same incident in other games - like the Everton Leicester match I watched Saturday. Different refs having a different interpretation of the rule, choosing to be a bit more lenient and applying some common sense. I mean it would still be infuriating as the rules should be the rules no matter who's reffing but I could kind of get my head around it. The commentators in that game were amazed that the Everton player wasn't booked by the way - calling it the Declan Rice rule which pretty much sums it up.

But incredibly in both games where we've had a man sent off for "delaying the restart" an opposition player has done the exact same thing and not been booked - don't forget the Brighton player who hoofed it away in the first half of that match.

So what we have is the SAME referee in the SAME game seeing the SAME incident but only choosing to punish one of the teams, that's rather bizarre isn't it? Or maybe it's just a coincidence, who knows.

All I know is that in the last week Michael Oliver has reffed 2 games and in those games there have been 3 separate incidents where a player has kicked the ball away delaying the restart but he has only shown a yellow card on one of those 3 occasions. Still these things even themselves out over the course of the season eh?

I'm recording that shite SlySports show today where they have the little bald ex ref Gallagher on to make excuses for the PGMOL.... Just the thing to watch after work and put me in a bad mood.

[Bob Bayliss]

Shearer defended Oliver's decision not to book Doku by claiming that he was kicking the ball forward to where the referee had told him the free-kick needed to be taken inside Arsenal's half (so was not delaying the restart).

If that were true - and in fairness it does seem that Oliver is pointing for it to be moved forward - why did he allow the Arsenal player to return the ball back into City's half, where Doku had been standing, where the free-kick was then taken?

Either Doku should have been booked or the referee ignored his own instructions and allowed the free-kick to be taken from the wrong place.

[General]

Shearer defended Oliver's decision not to book Doku by claiming that he was kicking the ball forward to where the referee had told him the free-kick needed to be taken inside Arsenal's half (so was not delaying the restart).

If that were true - and in fairness it does seem that Oliver is pointing for it to be moved forward - why did he allow the Arsenal player to return the ball back into City's half, where Doku had been standing, where the free-kick was then taken?

Either Doku should have been booked or the referee ignored his own instructions and allowed the free-kick to be taken from the wrong place.

Exactly, besides it is not up to Doku to assist with where the freekick should be taken. The actual offence is ‘delaying the restart’ not kicking the ball away and this met the test so should’ve been a yellow card offence. At Spurs, Saliba handled the ball for a few seconds whiles retrieving. Spurs complained and he was booked yet Oliver somehow made a conscious decision not to book Doku.
The explanation Howard Webb gave for Pedro not being booked for smashing the ball up the pitch was no Arsenal player was close by to take a quick freekick, which was false. You could even argue Trossard didn’t delay the restart yesterday as Silva was on the floor and acting injured so City were in no position to take a quick freekick. All common sense is lost on these officials

[IW8Goalmachine]

So cauliflower head gets away with throwing the ball at one of ours.

Don't get too involved lads. What's the point while the *word censored* have the officials on their side.

[xgtdec]

Yeah so basically the city players can do what they like as long as VAR officials are ok with it,

""but the FA cannot get involved because the incident was reviewed by the VAR John Brooks at the time.

Brooks decided it was not an act of violent conduct and so not worthy of a red card, and the VAR cannot intervene to recommend a booking.""

And thats the official line, John Brooks decided that a city player lashing the ball at an oppositions players head when it was out of play is fair game and dont worry about it.

How in the name of christ are we as a club not filing a litany of these complaints with the relevant people............Just like our transfer business model we are an utter embarrassment of a club who for some reason wont stand up for ourselves instead being prepared to be treated like a doormat while city players essentially do whatever they like.

Its vomit inducing!!

[Natural Born Gooner]

Citeh players moaning to their own country press that we aren't rolling over and getting our tummies tickled for them any more.

Still raging, hope we use this as motivation to start putting teams to the sword and go on a long winning run.

Oh and fuck Rodri. That's Karma for trying to break Odegaards ankle in their international game in 2023

[Gunner Rob]

There's a view of the second Trossard yellow that shows the cheating cùnt ref was still blowing his whistle as Trossard kicked the ball.

I still don’t know how he can get sent off for that - yet you watch Match of the Day last night and the pundits calmly agree that all seems fine.

Another thing at the end of the match - if Stones hadn’t scored when he did… then how much longer would have been added on to ensure someone did score ?

[rodders999]

VAR reviewed it and all ok

Same way they also reviewed Bruno smashing Jorgihno in the head last season and said nothing doing I suppose.

Fucking bent c.unts