The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

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Remain or leave

Remain
30
37%
Leave
51
63%
 
Total votes: 81

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Anyway the ECJ has now ruled that we can cancel Article 50 any time we like. So you won't have to worry as the elites on both sides of the channel are out to stop it.

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A11M11 wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:51 am
Anyway the ECJ has now ruled that we can cancel Article 50 any time we like. So you won't have to worry as the elites on both sides of the channel are out to stop it.
I always maintained on here that the referendum was only advisory.

If you wanted your Brexit you needed someone able to implement it 2 years ago. Too late now.

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They voted in May to make sure that it didn't happen.

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I was one of many who went on the Stop the War march in 2003, and although I disagreed with him on that issue, I believe that he did what he felt was right at that time. He did a lot of other very good things for this country, he shouldnt just be judged on that one issue. The UK with Blair as PM was a country doing a lot better than it is doing at the moment!

How much blood will be on the hands of Brexiteers should there be a No deal Brexit ?
You went up 10 points for the anti war then slipped down 20 points for saying he did good things for this country ,pray tell what he did Rob that was good cos I cant remember ?????

Sold our hospitals,schools ,public buildings off in the great PPI scandals. which have cost us hundreds of BILLIONS of pounds ??
Passed numerous laws taking away our freedoms including the right to remain silent ???
Create more quangos and unelected agencies than ever before like the incompetent CSA which had power of law and NO accountability ?
Let his chancellor borrow and spend billions which disappeared down Labour crony rabbit holes !
Invite Oasis to number 10 ???

I could go on so please have a good old google and tell me please Rob what great things he did for us whilst pissing away the billions he wasted because the economy through no act of his was in a reasonable shape ????

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Herd wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:25 pm

I was one of many who went on the Stop the War march in 2003, and although I disagreed with him on that issue, I believe that he did what he felt was right at that time. He did a lot of other very good things for this country, he shouldnt just be judged on that one issue. The UK with Blair as PM was a country doing a lot better than it is doing at the moment!

How much blood will be on the hands of Brexiteers should there be a No deal Brexit ?
You went up 10 points for the anti war then slipped down 20 points for saying he did good things for this country ,pray tell what he did Rob that was good cos I cant remember ?????

Sold our hospitals,schools ,public buildings off in the great PPI scandals. which have cost us hundreds of BILLIONS of pounds ??
Passed numerous laws taking away our freedoms including the right to remain silent ???
Create more quangos and unelected agencies than ever before like the incompetent CSA which had power of law and NO accountability ?
Let his chancellor borrow and spend billions which disappeared down Labour crony rabbit holes !
Invite Oasis to number 10 ???

I could go on so please have a good old google and tell me please Rob what great things he did for us whilst pissing away the billions he wasted because the economy through no act of his was in a reasonable shape ????


You're wasting your breath Herd

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Blair as Herd mentioned when our economy was doing okay refused to invest in infrastructure instead sold most of what we had off, the pushed us into an expensive war, and helped deregulate our banks making the 2008 crash worse.

He was our bill Clinton + our dubya bush in one.

Some of the shit he has been up to since with his Global Fixer company is not good as well.

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A11M11 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:50 pm
there could well be a number of deaths from a no deal Brexit, due to food and medicine shortages, in the immediate weeks at the end of March.
even if that doesnt happen then as a country we will become much poorer and are likely to die younger, especially if as is likely the NHS becomes unsustainable.


Really , you have taken it hook line and sinker.
What understanding do you have of how we source our medicines for the NHS?

I've just checked on insulin, within 5 minutes I have found out that we don't manufacture insulin in the UK. It also has to be transported at a certain temperature, if our supply chain is disrupted due to a hard brexit then an awful lot of people with diabetes will be left in the shit.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/ne ... lin-brexit

Now tell me this is scaremongering from a politically motivated body.

This is just another classic example of you making sweeping statements, without much thought or substance behind your argument.

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A11M11 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:03 pm
EU CITIZENS WHO CRITICISE IMMIGRATION COULD BE JAILED IN NEW UN PLAN

Who says this ? An MEP, Marcel de Graaff and he says ''Criticism of migration will be criminal offence.''

Marcel de Graaff has warned EU citizens they could be jailed for criticising immigration policies if the new United Nations agreement is acted upon.

Although this UN agreement is not binding it is still meant to be the legal framework on which the participating countries commit themselves to build new legislation. It is sufficiently serious for many countries to say they will not sign - see below

Britain has, or says she will, sign up to the UN migration pact. Of course the gov has. The Foreign Office, probably rubber stamped by the PM, is too soft to say no to the UN, despite the Tory government promising Brits many times that they will hold immigration back.

But many tough and realistic Western countries say they will not sign, eg. Austria, Australia, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy, Israel, Poland, Slovakia, Switzerland and the USA.

On the December 10th/11th there will be an international congress in Marrakesh, Morocco. The participating
countries (includes Britain) are set to sign this agreement.
Criticism of immigration will become a criminal offence de Graaff says.

And he says “Media outlets that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down."

More fake news I suppose.
Ohh the irony. This tickled me.

:D :D :D :D :D

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Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

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Herd wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:25 pm

I was one of many who went on the Stop the War march in 2003, and although I disagreed with him on that issue, I believe that he did what he felt was right at that time. He did a lot of other very good things for this country, he shouldnt just be judged on that one issue. The UK with Blair as PM was a country doing a lot better than it is doing at the moment!

How much blood will be on the hands of Brexiteers should there be a No deal Brexit ?
You went up 10 points for the anti war then slipped down 20 points for saying he did good things for this country ,pray tell what he did Rob that was good cos I cant remember ?????

Sold our hospitals,schools ,public buildings off in the great PPI scandals. which have cost us hundreds of BILLIONS of pounds ??
Passed numerous laws taking away our freedoms including the right to remain silent ???
Create more quangos and unelected agencies than ever before like the incompetent CSA which had power of law and NO accountability ?
Let his chancellor borrow and spend billions which disappeared down Labour crony rabbit holes !
Invite Oasis to number 10 ???

I could go on so please have a good old google and tell me please Rob what great things he did for us whilst pissing away the billions he wasted because the economy through no act of his was in a reasonable shape ????

well for starters he did a lot better than the current government!!
then look at David Cameron who introduced unnecessary austerity measures and decided to hold a referendum on the EU!

Among the great achievements during the Blair era (he won 3 General Elections by the way) he introduced the minimum national wage, invested more in education than ever before and negotiated the Good Friday Agreement.

The country was popular back then, not the laughing stock of the world as it is now, we were even awarded the Olympic Games. The Blair years might be the last that we can say that Britain truly was Great Britain, now it is more like Little England.

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A11M11 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 am
Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
its not just the supply of medicines that will be the problem.
as the UK becomes poorer a lot of medicines will become unaffordable for the NHS.

the cancer saving drugs will increasingly only be affordable if you pay for them.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 am
A11M11 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 am
Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
its not just the supply of medicines that will be the problem.
as the UK becomes poorer a lot of medicines will become unaffordable for the NHS.

the cancer saving drugs will increasingly only be affordable if you pay for them.
This is probably the most ludicrous post Ive seen ,Rob if we are out of the Eu we can refuse to acknowledge patents and make our own generic versions of any drug we want !

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Herd wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 am
A11M11 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 am
Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
its not just the supply of medicines that will be the problem.
as the UK becomes poorer a lot of medicines will become unaffordable for the NHS.

the cancer saving drugs will increasingly only be affordable if you pay for them.
This is probably the most ludicrous post Ive seen ,Rob if we are out of the Eu we can refuse to acknowledge patents and make our own generic versions of any drug we want !
RUBBISH !

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... y-13676824

What you won't be aware of because it is being hushed up is that medication stocks are running low already.
Major pharmaceutical companies aren’t releasing drugs, because of the uncertainty over Brexit.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:42 pm
Herd wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 am
A11M11 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 am
Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
its not just the supply of medicines that will be the problem.
as the UK becomes poorer a lot of medicines will become unaffordable for the NHS.

the cancer saving drugs will increasingly only be affordable if you pay for them.
This is probably the most ludicrous post Ive seen ,Rob if we are out of the Eu we can refuse to acknowledge patents and make our own generic versions of any drug we want !
RUBBISH !

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... y-13676824

What you won't be aware of because it is being hushed up is that medication stocks are running low already.
Major pharmaceutical companies aren’t releasing drugs, because of the uncertainty over Brexit.
Can I sell you the eiffel tower only you swallow these whoppers whole time afer time .
You can fool some of the people all of the time ,I guess

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:42 pm
Herd wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 am
A11M11 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 am
Channel 4 news JUly 2018. :- But more importantly, the companies that do supply the bulk of UK patients – even with products manufactured overseas – have told us that they don’t expect significant problems with supply in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
its not just the supply of medicines that will be the problem.
as the UK becomes poorer a lot of medicines will become unaffordable for the NHS.

the cancer saving drugs will increasingly only be affordable if you pay for them.
This is probably the most ludicrous post Ive seen ,Rob if we are out of the Eu we can refuse to acknowledge patents and make our own generic versions of any drug we want !
RUBBISH !

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... y-13676824

What you won't be aware of because it is being hushed up is that medication stocks are running low already.
Major pharmaceutical companies aren’t releasing drugs, because of the uncertainty over Brexit.

Sorry I do try and stay out of this, I do, but sometimes I am weak and just give in. So what happens to us all when the EU cuts off our oxygen supply.....we're all gonna die....doomed....doomed I tell you. FFS.

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