As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
goonersid wrote:I can just see it now, little Jackie Wilshite bossing the midfield, riding challenges and emptying opposition midfielders, then nipping outside for a fag at halftime, before returning to seal the win with a charging run and finish. one jackie wilshite there only one jackie wilshite
Love it, last year it was Ramsey this year Wilshire.
What is it with you oirish gooners. Why dont we start looking at shitty paddy arsenal players. The first in a very long line is Eddie McGoldrick !
Christ. What the fuck is your major malfunction? Are you that mortally offended that not everyone thinks Jack is world class (yet anyway) that you resort to bringing nationality into it? Why?
Oh, and you do realise Ramsey is not English, right?
I'm not offended at all, nor do I think Jack is world class. BUT he has the ability to be world class and where it not for his glass ankles we may well have seen a totally different player. Brady is the only Irish player who was close to world class, the rest where journeymen, some Arsenal men, others chose to move on.
My original post was a bit tongue in cheek, but mehhh if it offended you I am sorry, honest guv.
Fair enough, mate.
As much as it makes me want to vomit a bit, I'd add O'Leary. I posted this on a previous O'Leary thread;
"He was a class player. I remember Mario Kempes saying after the CWC final in 1980 that O'Leary was the best he'd played against (after O'Leary had pretty much put Kempes in his pocket).
But as a manager he was a crunt. His joy, running up and down the pitch celebrating like he'd won something, after his Leeds side stopped us winning the league and basically handed it to the manc filth was pathetic. As was his baiting of Pires.
Legendary player. Cúnt as a manager."
I stand by it, O'Leary played at the top for 20 years, won almost everything and was a top class footballer. But a cúnt of a human being.
QuartzGooner wrote:Think Chambers has been bought to eventually be guided into a Flamini type midfield role next to Ramsey, with right-back as an option rather than a main aim.
So another purchase for the long term but also another purchase where we are gonna take a player from his usual position and then train him to play in another position ? Can we not just buy players to play in the positions that they impressed in before we bought them ?
Bale started off at left back
Scholes was a striker at youth level
Scweinsteiger was an attacking midfielder
Puyol was a right back
Toure started off at full back for us
Giggs used to be an out and out winger
Adams was a drunk
So was Parlour
Kevin Pietersen was an off spinner
Jacques Villeneuve was initially an Indy 500 racer
David Haye was a Cruiserweight once
People evolve! Just because you are a right back at 19 doesn't mean you have to play there all your life. I haven't seen the kid play but if he's as good as some of the things I've heard he will be an asset in most squads.
Come on Augie - things aren't that bad! Have a day off and be happy
LeGinge (Northern Branch) wrote:[qu
People evolve! Just because you are a right back at 19 doesn't mean you have to play there all your life. I haven't seen the kid play but if he's as good as some of the things I've heard he will be an asset in most squads.
Come on Augie - things aren't that bad! Have a day off and be happy
It dont sound like RB is his natural position as he captained England as a centre back, could be one of those that can just play anywhere so if that's true there's nothing negative about it.
I have no probs with the game evolving (although it is true that I dont like what football has become ) and I agree that it is useful to have players who are versatile - what I was commenting on is the remark from quartz where he suggests that chambers is being bought as a midfielder as opposed to a defender where he has spent 95% of his pro career to date
Le Ginge You are right though about sport evolving......Kevin Pietersen didnt start as being english but all of a sudden he became a good player and he became english overnight
augie wrote:I have no probs with the game evolving (although it is true that I dont like what football has become ) and I agree that it is useful to have players who are versatile - what I was commenting on is the remark from quartz where he suggests that chambers is being bought as a midfielder as opposed to a defender where he has spent 95% of his pro career to date
Le Ginge You are right though about sport evolving......Kevin Pietersen didnt start as being english but all of a sudden he became a good player and he became english overnight
HAHAHA! I Guess it's a little like Andy Townsend and Tony Cascarino suddenly becoming Irish
augie wrote:I have no probs with the game evolving (although it is true that I dont like what football has become ) and I agree that it is useful to have players who are versatile - what I was commenting on is the remark from quartz where he suggests that chambers is being bought as a midfielder as opposed to a defender where he has spent 95% of his pro career to date
Le Ginge You are right though about sport evolving......Kevin Pietersen didnt start as being english but all of a sudden he became a good player and he became english overnight
HAHAHA! I Guess it's a little like Andy Townsend and Tony Cascarino suddenly becoming Irish
Ya but they forgot to become good they just became Irish
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I know all about Calum Chambers, because I don't. However, I went on a Southampton forum last night and they are all up in arms (yes I'm aware they could well be biased).
The consensus (it's a far busier forum than this one, and no one disagreed) was that this is an absolute steal for us. They cannot work out why their club is allowing such a talent to go for so cheap (their words, not mine).
Again, I know next to nothing about the kid apart from what I've read. But it could be that we've got a gem on our hands. If he is as versatile as everyone says he is and can play RB or DM, then great. But I do not want his signing to mean that we don't bring in a proper DM as well.
augie wrote:I have no probs with the game evolving (although it is true that I dont like what football has become ) and I agree that it is useful to have players who are versatile - what I was commenting on is the remark from quartz where he suggests that chambers is being bought as a midfielder as opposed to a defender where he has spent 95% of his pro career to date
Le Ginge You are right though about sport evolving......Kevin Pietersen didnt start as being english but all of a sudden he became a good player and he became english overnight
HAHAHA! I Guess it's a little like Andy Townsend and Tony Cascarino suddenly becoming Irish
Ya but they forgot to become good they just became Irish
T.S wrote:I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I know all about Calum Chambers, because I don't. However, I went on a Southampton forum last night and they are all up in arms (yes I'm aware they could well be biased).
The consensus (it's a far busier forum than this one, and no one disagreed) was that this is an absolute steal for us. They cannot work out why their club is allowing such a talent to go for so cheap (their words, not mine).
Again, I know next to nothing about the kid apart from what I've read. But it could be that we've got a gem on our hands. If he is as versatile as everyone says he is and can play RB or DM, then great. But I do not want his signing to mean that we don't bring in a proper DM as well.
I've 2 friends who are Saints fans season ticket holders...and they are fuming that a) their club is being assett stripped, b) Chambers was allowed (in their eyes0 to be sold so cheaply, they're already dreading the season.
T.S wrote:I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I know all about Calum Chambers, because I don't. However, I went on a Southampton forum last night and they are all up in arms (yes I'm aware they could well be biased).
The consensus (it's a far busier forum than this one, and no one disagreed) was that this is an absolute steal for us. They cannot work out why their club is allowing such a talent to go for so cheap (their words, not mine).
Again, I know next to nothing about the kid apart from what I've read. But it could be that we've got a gem on our hands. If he is as versatile as everyone says he is and can play RB or DM, then great. But I do not want his signing to mean that we don't bring in a proper DM as well.
And if I thought that was going to be the case then I would be totally ok with this too - what concerns me is that chambers will be our last signing unless tv5 goes and for me that would again be negligent management
The £30million signing officially starts life as an Arsenal player on Monday following his move from Barcelona but must first finalise his working visa in Paris before moving on to London.
My hope is that TV5 and Jenko will stay, Chambers adds a lot of versatility and means we have some nice depth at the back now. Considering we've already signed three experienced and highly rated players in positions we were lacking, i'm happy to allow us to bring in a player we can develop. Hell, I've been a big critic of how the club is run, but seeing us move early in the summer, spending all this money and actually filling these gaps in our team is very encouraging, especially compared to previous years of inactivity/last minute panic buys.
Feel sorry for Southampton though, it's been great to see them turn their fortunes around and now they've basically lost loads of their best assets, makes me wonder if they'll be able to stay up now.
) and I agree that it is useful to have players who are versatile - what I was commenting on is the remark from quartz where he suggests that chambers is being bought as a midfielder as opposed to a defender where he has spent 95% of his pro career to date
