As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Kiki wrote:Does anyone remember last year when Bayern Munich were beat by Barca there Genaral Manager wasnt too happy with his manager and let it be known - a great team like Bayern being humbled, no matter the opposition, was not good enough.
Bayern had their first team out there in that game, we dint.
Were Barca at full-strength? Yes or No?
No Puyol, No Pique, No Ibrahimovich for a start. How fit Iniesta was, I don't know but I dont think he was 100% either.
Why you are comparing both our defeats is beyond me, you do realize that Bayern spent 50mill euros on Gomez & Robben alone and this is something we will not do.
You may want to expand on your original post for us to get the full meaning.
Kiki wrote:Does anyone remember last year when Bayern Munich were beat by Barca there Genaral Manager wasnt too happy with his manager and let it be known - a great team like Bayern being humbled, no matter the opposition, was not good enough.
Bayern had their first team out there in that game, we dint.
Were Barca at full-strength? Yes or No?
No Puyol, No Pique, No Ibrahimovich for a start. How fit Iniesta was, I don't know but I dont think he was 100% either.
Their best three attacking players weren't out (Xavi and Messi played), we on the other end, had all three out (Arshavin, RVP,Fabregas). Not to mention the injuries to Song, Gallas and Sol.
Kiki wrote:Does anyone remember last year when Bayern Munich were beat by Barca there Genaral Manager wasnt too happy with his manager and let it be known - a great team like Bayern being humbled, no matter the opposition, was not good enough.
Bayern had their first team out there in that game, we dint.
Were Barca at full-strength? Yes or No?
No Puyol, No Pique, No Ibrahimovich for a start. How fit Iniesta was, I don't know but I dont think he was 100% either.
Why you are comparing both our defeats is beyond me, you do realize that Bayern spent 50mill euros on Gomez & Robben alone and this is something we will not do.
You may want to expand on your original post for us to get the full meaning.
Thanks for answering my question
We can't hide behind the money spent excuse forever. I'll admit I would use it while in debate with Manc and Liverpool fans but after the board telling us there is money available it apears there was and it was decided not to. Dont forget we pay very big wages too - times that is forgotten.
The reason I bring up the Bayern defeat is that someone at that Club said it wasn't acceptable that a team like theirs be beaten in such a manner. And while we were without a lot of players - we DID know about RvP for quite some time.
I just hope the right noises are made now from the Manager to get the players focused on our remaining games.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
augie wrote:Firstly let me hold my hands up and say that due to work commitments I couldnt actually watch the game live and only seen the highlights since so maybe that is affecting my opinion but I feel that some of the opinions on here are very harsh (and I am a realist as well ) -
We were missing too many of our best players and you cannot ignore that fact. Many of us on here have said all season that we are not good enough to win the champs lge so if our first choice line up is not deemed to be good enough by most Gooners is it not unreasonable to expect this line up tonight to beat the best team in club football at the moment ?
For some fans to say that we should have approached the game with a different tactical plan totally ignores a fact that has been written about us for the last few years now.....we can only play one way We simply do not have the personel to set out to negate the opposition and even though wenger has often tried putting square pegs into round holes in different aspects, deep down we know it cannot work.
If we wish to be negative then we can of course rightly say that we have far too many players who simply are not good enough even as back ups. I would also point to the fact that yet again the glaring absence of leaders on the pitch is badly showing up but we have a man in charge who will not want to accept either of these facts. We are again brought back to basics like the lack of a brain in diaby and walcott (even one between them would be good) and you hope and pray that nights like tonight will show these facts to wenger so something positive might come out of it but deep down we know that aint going to happen and this summer will mirror last summer and the summer before that.........no point in blaming the players too much on a night like this
I noticed that Gael was on the Sky Sports Spanish football programme as a guest on Sunday before this game. Then he plays out of his skin in the Nou Camp.. I wonder if he might be angling for a move out there in the summer ? This is not a wind up so please don't all start jumping down my throat. It's just a thought
Some people on here need to get a fucking clue. Quite frankly we got beaten by an astonishing player in a very good team, and we still could have gone through with most of our team out. We played well, we just lacked that little spark. Overall we've shown a lot of steel this year, and the season still has something to play for 5 games left.
rigsby wrote:Some people on here need to get a fucking clue. Quite frankly we got beaten by an astonishing player in a very good team, and we still could have gone through with most of our team out. We played well, we just lacked that little spark. Overall we've shown a lot of steel this year, and the season still has something to play for 5 games left.
Ha I know, tbh I do have my gripes I just get a bit rattled when I see people slag us off seemingly out of blind rage, when really the way we played and the team we lost to, there really was no shame.
rigsby wrote:Some people on here need to get a fucking clue. Quite frankly we got beaten by an astonishing player in a very good team, and we still could have gone through with most of our team out. We played well, we just lacked that little spark. Overall we've shown a lot of steel this year, and the season still has something to play for 5 games left.
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We simply do not have the personel to set out to negate the opposition and even though wenger has often tried putting square pegs into round holes in different aspects, deep down we know it cannot work.
