Board Sells - Kroenke Takes Control Of Club!!

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USMartin wrote:
Boomer wrote:
USMartin wrote:
Boomer wrote:With todays news of Danny Fiszman it looks as if the sale was passing on responsibility of the shares.

What does that have to do with Lady Nina's shares?

No I think while its perfectly appropriate to put personal opinions and judgments of Mr. Fiszman and his actions aside right now, it is hardly sensible to abandon our concerns over this issue as a whole period, no matter how eager you may be that we do so.
I knew you'd pick up on that. :roll:

She's been looking to sell for ages so we knew it was coming but didn't know into who's hands the shares were going.

I'm not prepared to have a debate over this, not tonight at least.

For once let's just turn our thoughts Danny.
I would quietly agree except the post I made had nothing whatsoever to do with Mr. Fiszman anyway and made no reference to him. To everything there is a season and the time to discuss Mr. Fiszman will come when its approprate, which is not now.

But the simple truth is all that was being discussed was the situation with Mr. Kroenke and Mr. Usmanov which still goes on just ss Arsenal Football Club goes on, and as poor as it may sound especially now we all say no man is bigger than the club.

So why use the tragic events to try to and divert attention from ongoing concerns that will effect the nest several years and even decades for the club? As that appears to be what you are doing based on what I actually posted that you replied to.
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Boomer wrote:
USMartin wrote:
Boomer wrote:
USMartin wrote:
Boomer wrote:With todays news of Danny Fiszman it looks as if the sale was passing on responsibility of the shares.

What does that have to do with Lady Nina's shares?

No I think while its perfectly appropriate to put personal opinions and judgments of Mr. Fiszman and his actions aside right now, it is hardly sensible to abandon our concerns over this issue as a whole period, no matter how eager you may be that we do so.
I knew you'd pick up on that. :roll:

She's been looking to sell for ages so we knew it was coming but didn't know into who's hands the shares were going.

I'm not prepared to have a debate over this, not tonight at least.

For once let's just turn our thoughts Danny.
I would quietly agree except the post I made had nothing whatsoever to do with Mr. Fiszman anyway and made no reference to him. To everything there is a season and the time to discuss Mr. Fiszman will come when its approprate, which is not now.

But the simple truth is all that was being discussed was the situation with Mr. Kroenke and Mr. Usmanov which still goes on just ss Arsenal Football Club goes on, and as poor as it may sound especially now we all say no man is bigger than the club.

So why use the tragic events to try to and divert attention from ongoing concerns that will effect the nest several years and even decades for the club? As that appears to be what you are doing based on what I actually posted that you replied to.
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I see no reason to discuss Mr. Fiszman other than to honor his memory and service to Arsenal for several days now. And that wasn't being discussed. Arsenal was. And there is no reason not to.

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I'm glad that it looks like (for now) a massive majority for one man is going to be unlikely as, even if we knew we had the greatest owner ever, I am uneasy with effectively one man ownership. Hopefully desicicion making won#t be badly affected by any board room/share holding fighting over the summer and our two major shareholders can get along.

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USMartin wrote:I see no reason to discuss Mr. Fiszman other than to honor his memory and service to Arsenal for several days now. And that wasn't being discussed. Arsenal was. And there is no reason not to.
What exactly do you want now Martin???

Why don't you just wait and see what happens?

You had a chance to get rid of the board when no one owned the club but now you can't do anything. Just leave it alone.

Lady Nina has been trying to sell her shares for a long time, she said it was better for the club if she sold them (to the right person) and Danny's sadly deteriorating condition obviously set a few things in motion.

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Arsenal 1991 wrote: What exactly do you want now Martin???
The same thing I wamted last week and the week before the that - tom advicate for needed changes in the spending policies that arsenalfc,notplc is being put together to advocate, and to make sure these policies are not continued because our Shareholders might have sold to someone who cannot afford buy the club.

The reality is Arsenal still goes on in spite of tragic passing of Daniel Fizsman, and so do the issues confronting the club, and it won't be long before we all realize this and the tenor of this forum returns to where it has been the past several months. We can't pretend that this is the solution to all our problems or that because its happened their is no point in vocalizing our concerns that are still justified at this time.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Why don't you just wait and see what happens?

We have waited and seen since 2006 and look what we have seen each year.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:You had a chance to get rid of the board when no one owned the club but now you can't do anything. Just leave it alone. ?
I didn't know our goal was to get rid of anyone. That certainly wasn't my goal. My gial was to advocate for increased investment in the team to take it that lttel bit further it could have been the past several years had we done so back then. I'm wondering if we have a goal or a group now even reading that. I hope we do because as I said Arsenal is still here and so are the issues facing the club before today's tragic news.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Lady Nina has been trying to sell her shares for a long time, she said it was better for the club if she sold them (to the right person) and Danny's sadly deteriorating condition obviously set a few things in motion.
Now is not the time to respond to let alone debate this. It would be utterly inmappropriate.

But believe me, that statement is absolutely debatable when it will be appropriate.

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Post by Arsenal 1991 »

Fine but talking about it endlessly on a forum helps no one.

Why not try twitter or Facebook and get your personal message out to people.

We all get the point here, everyone wants the club to spend so I don't know who's mind you are trying to change.

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Arsenal 1991 wrote:Fine but talking about it endlessly on a forum helps no one.

Why not try twitter or Facebook and get your personal message out to people.

We all get the point here, everyone wants the club to spend so I don't know who's mind you are trying to change.
Aren't you and USMartin both 'leading lights' in the AFC not PLC movement? Dont tell me its unravelling already :? :wink: :lol:

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I guess arsenalfc,notplc was some sort of joke then. Some sort of big phony undertaking. Is that what you are syaing?

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USMartin wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: What exactly do you want now Martin???
The same thing I wamted last week and the week before the that - tom advicate for needed changes in the spending policies that arsenalfc,notplc is being put together to advocate, and to make sure these policies are not continued because our Shareholders might have sold to someone who cannot afford buy the club.

The reality is Arsenal still goes on in spite of tragic passing of Daniel Fizsman, and so do the issues confronting the club, and it won't be long before we all realize this and the tenor of this forum returns to where it has been the past several months. We can't pretend that this is the solution to all our problems or that because its happened their is no point in vocalizing our concerns that are still justified at this time.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Why don't you just wait and see what happens?

We have waited and seen since 2006 and look what we have seen each year.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:You had a chance to get rid of the board when no one owned the club but now you can't do anything. Just leave it alone. ?
I didn't know our goal was to get rid of anyone. That certainly wasn't my goal. My gial was to advocate for increased investment in the team to take it that lttel bit further it could have been the past several years had we done so back then. I'm wondering if we have a goal or a group now even reading that. I hope we do because as I said Arsenal is still here and so are the issues facing the club before today's tragic news.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Lady Nina has been trying to sell her shares for a long time, she said it was better for the club if she sold them (to the right person) and Danny's sadly deteriorating condition obviously set a few things in motion.
Now is not the time to respond to let alone debate this. It would be utterly inmappropriate.

But believe me, that statement is absolutely debatable when it will be appropriate.


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mcdowell42 wrote:
USMartin wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: What exactly do you want now Martin???
The same thing I wamted last week and the week before the that - tom advicate for needed changes in the spending policies that arsenalfc,notplc is being put together to advocate, and to make sure these policies are not continued because our Shareholders might have sold to someone who cannot afford buy the club.

The reality is Arsenal still goes on in spite of tragic passing of Daniel Fizsman, and so do the issues confronting the club, and it won't be long before we all realize this and the tenor of this forum returns to where it has been the past several months. We can't pretend that this is the solution to all our problems or that because its happened their is no point in vocalizing our concerns that are still justified at this time.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Why don't you just wait and see what happens?

We have waited and seen since 2006 and look what we have seen each year.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:You had a chance to get rid of the board when no one owned the club but now you can't do anything. Just leave it alone. ?
I didn't know our goal was to get rid of anyone. That certainly wasn't my goal. My gial was to advocate for increased investment in the team to take it that lttel bit further it could have been the past several years had we done so back then. I'm wondering if we have a goal or a group now even reading that. I hope we do because as I said Arsenal is still here and so are the issues facing the club before today's tragic news.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Lady Nina has been trying to sell her shares for a long time, she said it was better for the club if she sold them (to the right person) and Danny's sadly deteriorating condition obviously set a few things in motion.
Now is not the time to respond to let alone debate this. It would be utterly inmappropriate.

But believe me, that statement is absolutely debatable when it will be appropriate.


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Poor old USMartin cant even say 'we will talk about it later' without going round the houses :lol: :wink:

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It's debatable when USMartin will be appropriate.

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marcengels wrote:It's debatable when USMartin will be appropriate.

8)
Nothing debatable there, the decision is already made :wink:

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marcengels wrote:It's debatable when USMartin will be appropriate.

8)
Coming from the re-icarnation of Grandfather mcCartney I'm flattered

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USMartin wrote:
marcengels wrote:It's debatable when USMartin will be appropriate.

8)
Coming from the re-icarnation of Grandfather mcCartney I'm flattered
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