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OneBardGooner wrote:
piresistible wrote:why are people so shcoked that the money is not going to be reinvested? around july time Grimandi had said that Giroud was a direct replacement for rvp.

so are we so shcoked because:
A. this has acutally happened or
B. Because he's gone to UTD
Just realised we can tell when you haven't 'cut & pasted' (Plagiarised) because your slleping is suspect.... :D :wink:
Im keeping you on your toes, :-P

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piresistible wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:
piresistible wrote:why are people so shcoked that the money is not going to be reinvested? around july time Grimandi had said that Giroud was a direct replacement for rvp.

so are we so shcoked because:
A. this has acutally happened or
B. Because he's gone to UTD
B - Shocked he's gone to United.
People have been belieiving Arsene knows for too long. He is complicit in all of this as he is paid £7m per year to oversee this annual brain drain. He lies to us repeatedly and that is unacceptable. His present actions far outweigh his achievements last millenia.
Sorry I beg to differ...yes WEnger is rightly ridiculed a lot of times but on this one i have to disagree.

Read this quote from RVP:
The bottom line is that I want to win trophies with Arsenal, not with anybody else. I know you can win trophies in many countries and in many ways, but I want to do that in our way and in an Arsenal shirt.
‘I’m sure I could win things at another team in another country, but would it feel like our trophy, my trophy? I’m not sure it would. Anything we win here will come from the heart and that’s what I want. It’s my dream and I see no point in speaking about other teams when I have these dreams. I think other people know that about me; I’m just hungry to win with Arsenal and that’s it – Robin van Persie, February 2011

If you are footballer and your salary is going to increase in it to what RVP will be getting at UTD then he will go there. He didn’t want to sign a contract extension. He is apparently on 220k a week which is way out of our reach and im sure way beyond what utd wanted to offer him…that’s 11.5m a year and over 4 years that is 45million…if you add the 24million then you are looking at 69million…so we have saved about 45m in wages and also obtained 24mill in transfer fees.

Say what you like but I think that’s a hell of a lot of money for a player who one good season out of 8.
Van Persie Snr said:

“It is impossible to go to another English team.”

But we know that’s all bullshit now. Money talks simple as that.
How do you know he's on more money at United than he could have earned at Arsenal? Please use only FACTS and not twitter/speculation.

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SantaPoldi wrote:How do you know he's on more money at United than he could have earned at Arsenal? Please use only FACTS and not twitter/speculation.
are you bonkers?
what are you disputing - that he's on £200k+ pw at ManUre??
every source I've read agrees on that
our top earners get paid half or less, totally unrealistic and unsustainable for us to pay that much

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SantaPoldi wrote:
piresistible wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:
piresistible wrote:why are people so shcoked that the money is not going to be reinvested? around july time Grimandi had said that Giroud was a direct replacement for rvp.

so are we so shcoked because:
A. this has acutally happened or
B. Because he's gone to UTD
B - Shocked he's gone to United.
People have been belieiving Arsene knows for too long. He is complicit in all of this as he is paid £7m per year to oversee this annual brain drain. He lies to us repeatedly and that is unacceptable. His present actions far outweigh his achievements last millenia.
Sorry I beg to differ...yes WEnger is rightly ridiculed a lot of times but on this one i have to disagree.

Read this quote from RVP:
The bottom line is that I want to win trophies with Arsenal, not with anybody else. I know you can win trophies in many countries and in many ways, but I want to do that in our way and in an Arsenal shirt.
‘I’m sure I could win things at another team in another country, but would it feel like our trophy, my trophy? I’m not sure it would. Anything we win here will come from the heart and that’s what I want. It’s my dream and I see no point in speaking about other teams when I have these dreams. I think other people know that about me; I’m just hungry to win with Arsenal and that’s it – Robin van Persie, February 2011

If you are footballer and your salary is going to increase in it to what RVP will be getting at UTD then he will go there. He didn’t want to sign a contract extension. He is apparently on 220k a week which is way out of our reach and im sure way beyond what utd wanted to offer him…that’s 11.5m a year and over 4 years that is 45million…if you add the 24million then you are looking at 69million…so we have saved about 45m in wages and also obtained 24mill in transfer fees.

Say what you like but I think that’s a hell of a lot of money for a player who one good season out of 8.
Van Persie Snr said:

“It is impossible to go to another English team.”

But we know that’s all bullshit now. Money talks simple as that.
How do you know he's on more money at United than he could have earned at Arsenal? Please use only FACTS and not twitter/speculation.

eermm sorry i dont have his payslip.
maybe we will find one on the floor like you John Arne Rilse's on.

He's on the same pay as rooney mate...

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highburyJD wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:How do you know he's on more money at United than he could have earned at Arsenal? Please use only FACTS and not twitter/speculation.
are you bonkers?
what are you disputing - that he's on £200k+ pw at ManUre??
every source I've read agrees on that
our top earners get paid half or less, totally unrealistic and unsustainable for us to pay that much
One guy makes up a rumour he's on £200k+ and everyone else repeats it. Doesn't mean it's fact. He was on £100k+ at Arsenal. I see no evidence to suggest he wasn't offered similar money to what United offered. You have no facts, nor do I. Don't listen to twitter. It's the epicentre of the world's bullshitters.

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so in your case we whould believe the £24million is probably not true as well then?

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SantaPoldi wrote:
highburyJD wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:How do you know he's on more money at United than he could have earned at Arsenal? Please use only FACTS and not twitter/speculation.
are you bonkers?
what are you disputing - that he's on £200k+ pw at ManUre??
every source I've read agrees on that
our top earners get paid half or less, totally unrealistic and unsustainable for us to pay that much
One guy makes up a rumour he's on £200k+ and everyone else repeats it. Doesn't mean it's fact. He was on £100k+ at Arsenal. I see no evidence to suggest he wasn't offered similar money to what United offered. You have no facts, nor do I. Don't listen to twitter. It's the epicentre of the world's bullshitters.
You're confusing Twitter with this thread mate :wink: :lol:

Just read some of McD's posts :-P

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SantaPoldi wrote:One guy makes up a rumour he's on £200k+ and everyone else repeats it. Doesn't mean it's fact. He was on £100k+ at Arsenal. I see no evidence to suggest he wasn't offered similar money to what United offered. You have no facts, nor do I. Don't listen to twitter. It's the epicentre of the world's bullshitters.
no I was going with every single newspaper report I've read on it...
'you see no evidence' what evidence?? what are you suggesting - thats he's on his Arsenal wages at ManUre
if he is he will can make a lot more with lawsuits against all the papers...

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AS in the words of George from East i sEast: Oh Bancho i'm fed up of you pukers...

look he has gone lets move on...utd have 50 strikers let then add him...we got a good price for one season wonder - lets get on with it..he didnt want to stay even thought we have bought quality players...this ambition bullshit dont fit with me...if you wallow on then feel free to do so, there are many many people on here that will join you.

The buying of RIP is the clubs way of impressing the fans and getting the media to sell more papers which in effect brings about Arsenal in tattes or Arsenal dealt another blow by losing the best striker. But they dont take into account that utd have paid 24mill or whatever the real price is in tranfer dees + 4yrs worth of mega wages - all coming to around 60mill.

Is rvp worth 60mill over the course of this 1 season wonderous peroformance? This is all reminicent of the ANelka days - for those that remember it. WE all know what happened to him. But do you know what we did with that tranfer fee?

WE bought in Henry a relatively average midfldr and used the money to re build our training facility. Utd might think they have got one over us and their arab neighbours but it could backfire if he gets injured and then they'll have a problem of getting shot off hi.

Obviously we dont know if rvp will get injured and whether he'll replicate the form of the last season but we know that wenger has got rid of some pplayers at the right time from anelka to bentley to adebayo..very little we pay but the returns were humongous.

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highburyJD wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:One guy makes up a rumour he's on £200k+ and everyone else repeats it. Doesn't mean it's fact. He was on £100k+ at Arsenal. I see no evidence to suggest he wasn't offered similar money to what United offered. You have no facts, nor do I. Don't listen to twitter. It's the epicentre of the world's bullshitters.
no I was going with every single newspaper report I've read on it...
'you see no evidence' what evidence?? what are you suggesting - thats he's on his Arsenal wages at ManUre
if he is he will can make a lot more with lawsuits against all the papers...
Can someone get me a translator. I don't understand what your point is. It's all hear-say. Don't knock him for going for the money if you can't prove it.

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Comment just forwarded to me from a Man U supporting colleague at work -
I’m a little confused. Why does he need yet another striker??? Surely a midfiled that operates out of wheelchairs and prams needs the money more? First time I’ve seen a short-term, panic buy by Ferguson. And I suspect it will be a mistake.

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piresistible wrote:Comment just forwarded to me from a Man U supporting colleague at work -
I’m a little confused. Why does he need yet another striker??? Surely a midfiled that operates out of wheelchairs and prams needs the money more? First time I’ve seen a short-term, panic buy by Ferguson. And I suspect it will be a mistake.
I was thinking this too. Fletcher, Anderson and Carrick have question marks on fitness (and age with Scholes). I don't think that they really needed RVP, but what do I know?

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Some good news.

D ‏@AFCAMDEN Some positive news: Jack Wilshere is continuing his rehabilitation with outdoor running. Going really well and in great spirits. #AFC

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So our best player has gone. Next up the speedy gonsalez Walcott must go to keep that money machine going plus Bendtner which is a good thing and finally Song.
Ching ching the cash machine will be in the positive again. Im so glad for you Mr Kronke. You really were worth the lockdown and the long wait. You will also be saving on polish in the Emirates trophy cabinet so its a double. Only double we will get until you frack off.

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D ‏@AFCAMDEN
Jack Wilshere CONFIRMED as Arsenal's new Number 10! #AFC

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