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Martinez had a brilliant half a season. He might have matured into a quality keeper now, time will tell but it would have been too risky making him number 1 over Leno who bar the odd mistake has been our most consistent player over the last couple of seasons.

There are certain attributes about Leno that I don't like and feel Martinez is better at but again the performance window is too small for Martinez to judge him as a better keeper than Leno. Arteta took the safe and logical decision in keeping Leno as no 1 and letting Martinez go and it's hard to grudge him for that.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:35 am
Ooh ooh ooh me sir! Me sir! :lol:

Posted this on the manure thread but ooh my swelling schlonger it fits perfectly here with the utter fucknuggetry posted by the uncle marrying culchie sisters augie and rodders! :lol: :wink: Read it and weep you pair of cùnts. :wink: :wink:

Leno reminds me a lot of the stupid cùnt that was Lehmann. A talented athletic keeper that could make some amazing saves, but at the same time make too many stupid decisions and unforced errors. That's why I consider both as good keepers but neither of them world class or even top class for the PL.

Lehmann cost us two CL trophies because of stupid decisions he made. And I have this awful awful feeling Leno will also cost us a trophy due to a stupid decision or unforced error. :|

Every time Martinez let's in a goal a couple of window lickers :wink: on here will pop up with "look look he let in a goal he's shit too". :yawn:

Letting in goals is not the real criteria to judge a keeper by. All keepers let in goals ffs. The game would be shit if they didn't. The real criteria is unforced errors and bad decision making. I would rate Leno and Martinez as about the same in their ability to stop a shot. But the key thing for me is Martinez makes less stupid decisions and less unforced errors.

Cue window lickers :wink: piping up with "he made a stupid decision" the next time Martinez makes one.... :yawn:

Yep all keepers make some stupid decisions or unforced errors.... the fucking point is the better ones make less of those. :idea:

Arteta made a mistake in letting Martinez leave. And people saying he should have told Martinez to stay and fight for the jersey have it the wrong way round. He should have handed Martinez the number one slot and told Leno to fight for it
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Pair of window licking cùnts. :D
Calm down dear, you'll aggravate you anus again like the last time you got this worked up :wink:

When you're palming limp dick shots into your own net from social media influencer Jesse Lingard you better believe Big Poppa Roddaz is going to come on here calling out those who reckon he's the love child of Lev Yashin and Gordon fucking Banks!

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Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:48 am
Martinez had a brilliant half a season. He might have matured into a quality keeper now, time will tell but it would have been too risky making him number 1 over Leno who bar the odd mistake has been our most consistent player over the last couple of seasons.

There are certain attributes about Leno that I don't like and feel Martinez is better at but again the performance window is too small for Martinez to judge him as a better keeper than Leno. Arteta took the safe and logical decision in keeping Leno as no 1 and letting Martinez go and it's hard to grudge him for that.
Fair points mate but I think you are being hugely generous to Leno with the bit in red. It's a lot more than the odd mistake. Almost every game and often a couple of times in a single game he will block a shot right back into the path of an oppo striker. He does it too often for it to be dismissed as the odd mistake. It's a huge technical flaw in his game and mark my words it will cost us a trophy. :(

My point though is that at the time Martinez was the better performing keeper and the jersey was his to lose. Automatically reinstating Leno was a mistake. I've always disagreed with this concept of "seniority". Whoever is playing the best should hold the position until they are no longer the best.

Arteta is doing it also with Linda Mangina and Xhakatard. No one can tell me they are being picked on merit. He's going with seniority whether out of loyalty to the player or just plain arrogance I don't know..... :|

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rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:09 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:35 am
Ooh ooh ooh me sir! Me sir! :lol:

Posted this on the manure thread but ooh my swelling schlonger it fits perfectly here with the utter fucknuggetry posted by the uncle marrying culchie sisters augie and rodders! :lol: :wink: Read it and weep you pair of cùnts. :wink: :wink:

Leno reminds me a lot of the stupid cùnt that was Lehmann. A talented athletic keeper that could make some amazing saves, but at the same time make too many stupid decisions and unforced errors. That's why I consider both as good keepers but neither of them world class or even top class for the PL.

Lehmann cost us two CL trophies because of stupid decisions he made. And I have this awful awful feeling Leno will also cost us a trophy due to a stupid decision or unforced error. :|

Every time Martinez let's in a goal a couple of window lickers :wink: on here will pop up with "look look he let in a goal he's shit too". :yawn:

Letting in goals is not the real criteria to judge a keeper by. All keepers let in goals ffs. The game would be shit if they didn't. The real criteria is unforced errors and bad decision making. I would rate Leno and Martinez as about the same in their ability to stop a shot. But the key thing for me is Martinez makes less stupid decisions and less unforced errors.

Cue window lickers :wink: piping up with "he made a stupid decision" the next time Martinez makes one.... :yawn:

Yep all keepers make some stupid decisions or unforced errors.... the fucking point is the better ones make less of those. :idea:

Arteta made a mistake in letting Martinez leave. And people saying he should have told Martinez to stay and fight for the jersey have it the wrong way round. He should have handed Martinez the number one slot and told Leno to fight for it
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Pair of window licking cùnts. :D
Calm down dear, you'll aggravate you anus again like the last time you got this worked up :wink:

When you're palming limp dick shots into your own net from social media influencer Jesse Lingard you better believe Big Poppa Roddaz is going to come on here calling out those who reckon he's the love child of Lev Yashin and Gordon fucking Banks!
My anus is in fantastic shape I'll have you know! :D Why only this week I had her indoors complimenting me on how full of shit I am. I ask you could an aggravated anus contain said huge amount of shit? :lol:

Tbh I thought Leno was channeling Gordon fucking Banks the other night the way he came blindly rushing out and totally mistook where the ball actually was the cockeyed fool! :) :wink:

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My anus is in fantastic shape I'll have you know! :D Why only this week I had her indoors complimenting me on how full of shit I am. I ask you could an aggravated anus contain said huge amount of shit? :lol:

Tbh I thought Leno was channeling Gordon fucking Banks the other night the way he came blindly rushing out and totally mistook where the ball actually was the cockeyed fool! :) :wink:
Ok, let's not get into a dick measuring competition here because I like you and I wouldn't want to embarrass you in front of the others when you unzip your fly and your tiny little pecker flops out, so let's just keep that between ourselves shall we? :wink:

As you say goalkeepers will make mistakes and their errors are highlighted more than any other player on the pitch because they usually lead to goals conceded. Leno fucked up the other night and I have no issue in calling him out for it and yes he does have a worrying tendency to parry shots back into the danger area, rather than pushing them wide of the goal (although sometimes he gets criticised on here for doing that from shots that are from point blank range where all he can really do is just make the save - but that's a side point).

There are some people on here who have a serious man crush on Emi Martinez, and look I get it, he's a strapping fellow, 6 foot 3 inches of pure South American man beef, let's be honest we'd all have a go on that I'm sure.

I hate to be the one to come on here and shatter their schoolgirl dreams but I'm afraid to say that he's just not as good as they so desperately want to believe and I'm going to have to keep telling them that until they finally put on their big boy pants and move on from it. 8)

It's not going to make me popular, it's a step down from the puerile shite I usually post, but it's my civic duty and I intend to keep doing it.

***Disclaimer*** - If Martinez is MOTM Saturday I shall be taking a sabbatical from this forum for a prolonged period of time :wink:

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Personally I think we had 2 decent keepers in Leno and Martinez - neither of them are going to be David Seaman standard, but they were both a massive step up from the post lobotomy Wenger days of Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone and a string of other pricks he dabbled with.

If Mat Ryan gets back fit he will prove to be a half decent back up but lets not go overboard - why would Brighton have cast him aside?

Runarsson? Just a desperate last minute signing so typical of our board. Oh, we've sold a keeper, best find a new one. Oh, we've got rid of a left back, best panic dash and play a RB there instead.

All I know is the squad is weaker in the goalkeeping department than it was a year ago.

As I say.....lets keep lowering those standards and accepting it eh?

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:37 am
Gunnerz4life wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:48 am
Martinez had a brilliant half a season. He might have matured into a quality keeper now, time will tell but it would have been too risky making him number 1 over Leno who bar the odd mistake has been our most consistent player over the last couple of seasons.

There are certain attributes about Leno that I don't like and feel Martinez is better at but again the performance window is too small for Martinez to judge him as a better keeper than Leno. Arteta took the safe and logical decision in keeping Leno as no 1 and letting Martinez go and it's hard to grudge him for that.
Fair points mate but I think you are being hugely generous to Leno with the bit in red. It's a lot more than the odd mistake. Almost every game and often a couple of times in a single game he will block a shot right back into the path of an oppo striker. He does it too often for it to be dismissed as the odd mistake. It's a huge technical flaw in his game and mark my words it will cost us a trophy. :(

My point though is that at the time Martinez was the better performing keeper and the jersey was his to lose. Automatically reinstating Leno was a mistake. I've always disagreed with this concept of "seniority". Whoever is playing the best should hold the position until they are no longer the best.

Arteta is doing it also with Linda Mangina and Xhakatard. No one can tell me they are being picked on merit. He's going with seniority whether out of loyalty to the player or just plain arrogance I don't know..... :|
The issue I have with Leno is that there is a sense of calousness and arrogance in his game at times which will result in the odd mistake that will hurt us. I don't like the fact that there is such an enormous gulf in quality between him and our second keeper (not counting the bloke we signed on loan as he is a temporary fix) because that may lead to overconfidence. However in my view Leno has been extremely consistent over the last couple of seasons and is one of the top 5 keepers in Europe today. I would not say Martinez was a better performing keeper than him as Leno was very good till he got injured. I really get why some fans would prefer Martinez to Leno but it would have been unfair to hand Martinez the number 1 tag (he wouldn't have settled for anything less mind you) based on half a season's showing.

As far as Bellerin goes, I don't think Arteta has a preference for him. Cedric has been good in the last few games but he was an underwhelming signing. I would start him over Bellerin over current form but he is hardly the upgrade we need. I think the club is targeting a right back and there is a good chance that Bellerin will be sold this summer.

As far as Xhaka goes, he is being played on merit. He has been done well in the last few games and having Partey alongside him has helped him. Again I agree that we should be doing better a lot better than Xhaka and need an upgrade this summer, but credit where it's due, the guy has done well of late (let the lynching begin 😀).

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Gunnerz4life wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:10 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:37 am
Gunnerz4life wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:48 am
Martinez had a brilliant half a season. He might have matured into a quality keeper now, time will tell but it would have been too risky making him number 1 over Leno who bar the odd mistake has been our most consistent player over the last couple of seasons.

There are certain attributes about Leno that I don't like and feel Martinez is better at but again the performance window is too small for Martinez to judge him as a better keeper than Leno. Arteta took the safe and logical decision in keeping Leno as no 1 and letting Martinez go and it's hard to grudge him for that.
Fair points mate but I think you are being hugely generous to Leno with the bit in red. It's a lot more than the odd mistake. Almost every game and often a couple of times in a single game he will block a shot right back into the path of an oppo striker. He does it too often for it to be dismissed as the odd mistake. It's a huge technical flaw in his game and mark my words it will cost us a trophy. :(

My point though is that at the time Martinez was the better performing keeper and the jersey was his to lose. Automatically reinstating Leno was a mistake. I've always disagreed with this concept of "seniority". Whoever is playing the best should hold the position until they are no longer the best.

Arteta is doing it also with Linda Mangina and Xhakatard. No one can tell me they are being picked on merit. He's going with seniority whether out of loyalty to the player or just plain arrogance I don't know..... :|
The issue I have with Leno is that there is a sense of calousness and arrogance in his game at times which will result in the odd mistake that will hurt us. I don't like the fact that there is such an enormous gulf in quality between him and our second keeper (not counting the bloke we signed on loan as he is a temporary fix) because that may lead to overconfidence. However in my view Leno has been extremely consistent over the last couple of seasons and is one of the top 5 keepers in Europe today. I would not say Martinez was a better performing keeper than him as Leno was very good till he got injured. I really get why some fans would prefer Martinez to Leno but it would have been unfair to hand Martinez the number 1 tag (he wouldn't have settled for anything less mind you) based on half a season's showing.

As far as Bellerin goes, I don't think Arteta has a preference for him. Cedric has been good in the last few games but he was an underwhelming signing. I would start him over Bellerin over current form but he is hardly the upgrade we need. I think the club is targeting a right back and there is a good chance that Bellerin will be sold this summer.

As far as Xhaka goes, he is being played on merit. He has been done well in the last few games and having Partey alongside him has helped him. Again I agree that we should be doing better a lot better than Xhaka and need an upgrade this summer, but credit where it's due, the guy has done well of late (let the lynching begin 😀).
With Leno, I think he's a decent PL keeper - however, he is the king of the brilliant diving full length save, whilst his distribution and decision making is ordinary. Martinez had a nice habit last season of shots 'sticking' to him where as Leno loves a parry or a punch - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Having said that I look at the list of keepers even at the top sides and apart from Allison there aren't many stand out ones. The pair of Chavski duds, Lloris, Flappianski, Pickford, even De Gea/Henderson - no thanks.

Disagree about Bellerin - he's a virtual ever present and the deputy captain. The manager absolutely loves him and is one of the first names on his team sheet. There's been tons of interest in him in the past and the club never want to sell him. I'll place a bet that he's still our first choice RB and deputy captain next season too.

To be honest with Xhaka its like the choice between a glass of piss and a dog shit sandwich. Do I want him in the team? No. Would Elneny or the slippers wearing Getafe fairy do any better? No. So courtesy of the fact he's had 2 or 3 games where he hasn't been a total clusterfuck, he's as worthy of the spot as either of those either two mongs

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rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:47 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:42 am
My anus is in fantastic shape I'll have you know! :D Why only this week I had her indoors complimenting me on how full of shit I am. I ask you could an aggravated anus contain said huge amount of shit? :lol:

Tbh I thought Leno was channeling Gordon fucking Banks the other night the way he came blindly rushing out and totally mistook where the ball actually was the cockeyed fool! :) :wink:
Ok, let's not get into a dick measuring competition here because I like you and I wouldn't want to embarrass you in front of the others when you unzip your fly and your tiny little pecker flops out, so let's just keep that between ourselves shall we? :wink:

As you say goalkeepers will make mistakes and their errors are highlighted more than any other player on the pitch because they usually lead to goals conceded. Leno fucked up the other night and I have no issue in calling him out for it and yes he does have a worrying tendency to parry shots back into the danger area, rather than pushing them wide of the goal (although sometimes he gets criticised on here for doing that from shots that are from point blank range where all he can really do is just make the save - but that's a side point).

There are some people on here who have a serious man crush on Emi Martinez, and look I get it, he's a strapping fellow, 6 foot 3 inches of pure South American man beef, let's be honest we'd all have a go on that I'm sure.

I hate to be the one to come on here and shatter their schoolgirl dreams but I'm afraid to say that he's just not as good as they so desperately want to believe and I'm going to have to keep telling them that until they finally put on their big boy pants and move on from it. 8)

It's not going to make me popular, it's a step down from the puerile shite I usually post, but it's my civic duty and I intend to keep doing it.

***Disclaimer*** - If Martinez is MOTM Saturday I shall be taking a sabbatical from this forum for a prolonged period of time :wink:



I'm with you rodders (on everything bar DB10's dick size cos unlike you I havent seen it and nor do I want to).

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 am
Personally I think we had 2 decent keepers in Leno and Martinez - neither of them are going to be David Seaman standard, but they were both a massive step up from the post lobotomy Wenger days of Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone and a string of other pricks he dabbled with.

If Mat Ryan gets back fit he will prove to be a half decent back up but lets not go overboard - why would Brighton have cast him aside?

Runarsson? Just a desperate last minute signing so typical of our board. Oh, we've sold a keeper, best find a new one. Oh, we've got rid of a left back, best panic dash and play a RB there instead.

All I know is the squad is weaker in the goalkeeping department than it was a year ago.

As I say.....lets keep lowering those standards and accepting it eh?
Forget about his ability or lack thereof for one second, Runarsson was a disgraceful signing because he was signed on the recommendation of one of our goalkeeping coaches who worked with him before, rather than going through the proper due diligence that should be done for any transfer (snigger).

We've had enough of that shit from Kia's mates to start signing the coaches buddies.

Back to Martinez and Leno, both wanted to be number 1, neither wanted to be back up, so one had to go and Martinez went - I'm not going to get in to the rights and wrongs of that in this post ladies so unravel your undergarments post haste :lol:

Undoubtedly we should have had a better 2nd choice than Runarsson going in to the season but name me one, shall we say "very good", back up keeper in the league?

I actually though Dean Henderson would oust De Gea (who's form has been in the shitter) at united after his impressive loan spell at Sheffield United last season but he's been absolute toilet any game he's played for them so far.

Liverpool are forced to play that young lad Kelleher any time Alsion is out (including last night), the chavs back up keeper cost 72 million quid and is absolute shite :lol: and isn't Scott Carson the back up at City? :shock:

You're kind of stuck with having a vastly inferior back up no matter what, because no keeper with decent ability and potential is prepared to sit on the bench indefinitely.

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augie wrote:
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I'm with you rodders (on everything bar DB10's dick size cos unlike you I havent seen it and nor do I want to).
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rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:41 pm
augie wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:52 pm
I'm with you rodders (on everything bar DB10's dick size cos unlike you I havent seen it and nor do I want to).
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augie wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:56 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:41 pm
augie wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:52 pm
I'm with you rodders (on everything bar DB10's dick size cos unlike you I havent seen it and nor do I want to).
PM'd

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It scared you huh? Never seen two foot of man beef before that didn't belong to a relative huh?

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augie wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:52 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:47 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:42 am
My anus is in fantastic shape I'll have you know! :D Why only this week I had her indoors complimenting me on how full of shit I am. I ask you could an aggravated anus contain said huge amount of shit? :lol:

Tbh I thought Leno was channeling Gordon fucking Banks the other night the way he came blindly rushing out and totally mistook where the ball actually was the cockeyed fool! :) :wink:
Ok, let's not get into a dick measuring competition here because I like you and I wouldn't want to embarrass you in front of the others when you unzip your fly and your tiny little pecker flops out, so let's just keep that between ourselves shall we? :wink:

As you say goalkeepers will make mistakes and their errors are highlighted more than any other player on the pitch because they usually lead to goals conceded. Leno fucked up the other night and I have no issue in calling him out for it and yes he does have a worrying tendency to parry shots back into the danger area, rather than pushing them wide of the goal (although sometimes he gets criticised on here for doing that from shots that are from point blank range where all he can really do is just make the save - but that's a side point).

There are some people on here who have a serious man crush on Emi Martinez, and look I get it, he's a strapping fellow, 6 foot 3 inches of pure South American man beef, let's be honest we'd all have a go on that I'm sure.

I hate to be the one to come on here and shatter their schoolgirl dreams but I'm afraid to say that he's just not as good as they so desperately want to believe and I'm going to have to keep telling them that until they finally put on their big boy pants and move on from it. 8)

It's not going to make me popular, it's a step down from the puerile shite I usually post, but it's my civic duty and I intend to keep doing it.

***Disclaimer*** - If Martinez is MOTM Saturday I shall be taking a sabbatical from this forum for a prolonged period of time :wink:



I'm with you rodders (on everything bar DB10's dick size cos unlike you I know he's basically dragging the equivalent of a Volkswagen Beetle around between his legs....
You know your penises augie, I'll give you that. :D :wink:

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rodders999 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:47 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:42 am
My anus is in fantastic shape I'll have you know! :D Why only this week I had her indoors complimenting me on how full of shit I am. I ask you could an aggravated anus contain said huge amount of shit? :lol:

Tbh I thought Leno was channeling Gordon fucking Banks the other night the way he came blindly rushing out and totally mistook where the ball actually was the cockeyed fool! :) :wink:
Ok, let's not get into a dick measuring competition here because I like you and I wouldn't want to embarrass you in front of the others when you unzip your fly and your tiny little pecker flops out, so let's just keep that between ourselves shall we? :wink:

As you say goalkeepers will make mistakes and their errors are highlighted more than any other player on the pitch because they usually lead to goals conceded. Leno fucked up the other night and I have no issue in calling him out for it and yes he does have a worrying tendency to parry shots back into the danger area, rather than pushing them wide of the goal (although sometimes he gets criticised on here for doing that from shots that are from point blank range where all he can really do is just make the save - but that's a side point).

There are some people on here who have a serious man crush on Emi Martinez, and look I get it, he's a strapping fellow, 6 foot 3 inches of pure South American man beef, let's be honest we'd all have a go on that I'm sure.

I hate to be the one to come on here and shatter their schoolgirl dreams but I'm afraid to say that he's just not as good as they so desperately want to believe and I'm going to have to keep telling them that until they finally put on their big boy pants and move on from it. 8)

It's not going to make me popular, it's a step down from the puerile shite I usually post, but it's my civic duty and I intend to keep doing it.

***Disclaimer*** - If Martinez is MOTM Saturday I shall be taking a sabbatical from this forum for a prolonged period of time :wink:
I hope you enjoy your time away from us roddaz. :D :wink:

Honestly though I hope I'm wrong here but you just know Martinez is going to be MOTM on Saturday.... :wink:

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