UEFA investigating "dive"

Post by **Chippy** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:11 pm

Copied and pasted from a locked thread.

jtvercetti27 wrote:
And on to Eduardo's dive. Yes it was a dive and yes it wasn't a penalty and yes it's never nice to see, but so what. It's happened to us where it's cost us a game and sometimes more (Shrek boy diving to end our 49-game unbeaten run immediately springs to mind). But not much is ever made of that. Why then did Tyldesley continue to rattle on about it for the remainder of the game? Then he went on to say "should Wenger sit down and talk to Eduardo about this", I thought, to be honest Clive I'd be more worried about your boss sitting you down to tell you what a terrible commentator you are and giving you your P45. We live in hope.
from the online gooner.

I was digusted to see this plastered all over the back page of the daily shitty mail as if this is a new problem that eduardo has started. They didn't seem to care when ronaldo (prick) dove about like a fish out of water, barely being able to stand on his own two feet without crying and hoding his face as if he's been sprayed with mace.

I find it difficult to believe the media isn't trying to piss us off.

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:35 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:When Owen did it against Argentina it was "clever", Gerrard is notoriously light on his feet, Rooney against us to end the unbeaten run was never brought to attention by the media

Not one of the above was highlighted to the extent this one has, Xenophobia? maybe in my opinion, It was a clear dive no doubt,but you cant punish some and not others.

Every team has a player that goes down easy, and Arsenal have also been the victims of this many times, its football unfortuntately. Tottenham stopped showing the game on the big screens because of the Ronaldo dive against them last season (I think it was) resulted in crowd unrest.

Il forgive Eduardo as the last time he took contact he didnt play for over a year!

Too Rye Aye BDB...

It's FECKIN

GGGGGRRRRRRRR TYPICAL of the CRUNTING SCUM Media to 'ave a go and make a big feckin fuss when it's something to do with Arsenal doing something they don't like.....

Besides all the other diving twats already mentioned:

rooney el uggo
ronadivo - twatto
gerrard (i only punch em when they're already sorted)
johnson (fulham) - gollum
torres - feckin' ladyboy

I remember only too well that scum ladyboy from villareal - diving - and it was only because the Krazy Kraut was on form that night - that we didn't have to suffer extra-time etc...

Eduardo dived - so what...I'm sure he won't do it again because of all this furor in the media...I just hope he isn't labelled as a 'diver' - because at some point in the season he'll be brought down, and if there's any doubt whatsoever in the ref's mind - it'll be waved away....

EDUARDO!

EDUARDO!

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:40 pm

g88ner wrote:
Radford149 wrote: Radford appreciates that you don't want him banned but be careful what you wish for. the game is the game and it should be left alone. cheating as Radford has stated IS part of the game. and anyone who has played sport will agree. and those who don't are living in a dream world
I play in a 5-a-side league as the main defender. I'm quite happy, if need be, to pull a player back or foul him if he gets passed me... so I can't say I'm against cheating, as I'm as guilty as most. (I would also happily dive to win my team a penalty) - but it doesn't make it right.

as Radford said its a part of the game and sport in general. the bit about it not being right is as far as Radford is concerned a load of bollocks. so can we not take the moral high ground over Eddie.

So, I think it IS part of football and always has been, but if UEFA/FIFA decide to tackle the problem then it can't be half hearted and ban one guy and let 10 others off the hook... it needs consistency.

there is not a problem to tackle. all this santamonious bullshit makes Radford sick and its pathetic

So, do I want Eduardo banned? no. Do I desperately want video evidence used? not overly. BUT if Eduardo is banned as part of a new consistent disciplinary panel, then I'd accept it in the knowledge that if Rooney, Gerrard or Owen dives against us, they would be banned too! - but can anyone really ever see that level of consistency happening?

Radford believes vidoe evidence will be a load of rubbish. where will it start and stop.

Mikegooner87i · Post by **Mikegooner87i** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:42 pm

Radford149 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
Radford149 wrote: Radford appreciates that you don't want him banned but be careful what you wish for. the game is the game and it should be left alone. cheating as Radford has stated IS part of the game. and anyone who has played sport will agree. and those who don't are living in a dream world
I play in a 5-a-side league as the main defender. I'm quite happy, if need be, to pull a player back or foul him if he gets passed me... so I can't say I'm against cheating, as I'm as guilty as most. (I would also happily dive to win my team a penalty) - but it doesn't make it right.

as Radford said its a part of the game and sport in general. the bit about it not being right is as far as Radford is concerned a load of bollocks. so can we not take the moral high ground over Eddie.

So, I think it IS part of football and always has been, but if UEFA/FIFA decide to tackle the problem then it can't be half hearted and ban one guy and let 10 others off the hook... it needs consistency.

there is not a problem to tackle. all this santamonious bullshit makes Radford sick and its pathetic

So, do I want Eduardo banned? no. Do I desperately want video evidence used? not overly. BUT if Eduardo is banned as part of a new consistent disciplinary panel, then I'd accept it in the knowledge that if Rooney, Gerrard or Owen dives against us, they would be banned too! - but can anyone really ever see that level of consistency happening?

Radford believes vidoe evidence will be a load of rubbish. where will it start and stop.

i only agree with Goal Line technology, all this shit about appeals and calls is bull shit. Saying that Uefa are apparently going have an extra 4 assitant ref's in the europa league now standing behind the goal.... That is bull shit because they could just as easuly make a mistake, like the linesman... bring the hawk eye to the goal lines!

Post by **g88ner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:47 pm

Radford149 wrote: Radford believes vidoe evidence will be a load of rubbish. where will it start and stop.

That's the concern, and frankly I have fuck all faith in FIFA and UEFA to use the technology wisely!

Dives in the box? outside the box? feigning injury? goal line decisions? - where do you draw the line??

Platini seems to be suggesting that he's against video technology, too... he'd prefer 2 more referees behind the goals to monitor these decisions better. (Can't say I'm in favour of that, either though)

Anyway, back to Eduardo... IF video evidence is implemented then there MUST be consistency in it's use right across the board and not just to ban the odd player when they feel like it, because that's isn't justice!

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:50 pm

g88ner wrote:
Radford149 wrote: Radford believes vidoe evidence will be a load of rubbish. where will it start and stop.
That's the concern, and frankly I have fuck all faith in FIFA and UEFA to use the technology wisely!

Dives in the box? outside the box? feigning injury? goal line decisions? - where do you draw the line??

Platini seems to be suggesting that he's against video technology, too... he'd prefer 2 more referees behind the goals to monitor these decisions better. (Can't say I'm in favour of that, either though)

Anyway, back to Eduardo... IF video evidence is implemented then there MUST be consistency in it's use right across the board and not just to ban the odd player when they feel like it, because that's isn't justice!

Again Radford see this for the crap it is. Eddie was not cautioned for what happened in fact it was the other way around and for this some people want him sanctioned. FFS Radford wonders what the world is coming to.

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:52 pm

Radford would also like posters to realise that excatly how many games was taylor banned for for "doing" eddie? what was worse?

Exiled-Gooner · Post by **Exiled-Gooner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:06 pm

piresistible wrote:http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/robk ... arrassing/

Well found pirsistible

this article hits the nail squarely on the F**KIN head.So eddy dived all he done is what manure,liverpoof's and chav's have been doing for yrs and not had the same damning media.Christ the media are treating it as war crime,it happened,we got away with it now let it drop or do the same to gerrard,rooney,berbatoss etc which i doubt there will.

In other words F**K EM,F**K ALL if there can do it so can we!!!!!

BT · Post by BT » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:13 pm

Sorry of this has been picked up before. I'm not going to defend Eduardo diving but did anyone see this in the original link

Speaking after the Arsenal match, Celtic defender Glenn Loovens also offered his thoughts on Eduardo and his penalty claim.

"I don't think he even speaks English so there was no point talking to him," said the Dutch centre-half.

Nice bit of xenaphobia thrown in. Eduardo does speak English, his manager talks to him in it, I've seen him interviewed...what a fucking stupid comment.

goonerdi · Post by **goonerdi** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:21 pm

It has to be an Arsenal thing - any forward playing in the Premierdship and other leagues would have done the same thing, Deafo, Torres, Berbatov, Owen, Rooney, Keane, Gerrard, Drogba, Fat Frank etc, etc, etc. I don't condone it but why can't the media get it in perspective. How ironic if Eduardo gets a ban which is as long or longer than the ban for the Brummie who broke his leg.

RoscommonGooner · Post by **RoscommonGooner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:23 pm

BT wrote:Sorry of this has been picked up before. I'm not going to defend Eduardo diving but did anyone see this in the original link

Speaking after the Arsenal match, Celtic defender Glenn Loovens also offered his thoughts on Eduardo and his penalty claim.

"I don't think he even speaks English so there was no point talking to him," said the Dutch centre-half.
Nice bit of xenaphobia thrown in. Eduardo does speak English, his manager talks to him in it, I've seen him interviewed...what a fucking stupid comment.

I don't think it had been picked up on BT. I thought the same when I read that.

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:36 pm

Cannot understand the hypocrisy from some fans on here I really cant

For the last few seasons we have slagged off rooney, gamst pederson and any other *word censored* that has dared to dive against us but as soon as it is one of our own some defend him and some actually applaud him

Cheating should be stopped end of story and anybody, whether they talk normally or in some 3rd person bullshit, that thinks otherwise is not a football fan. A clampdown here wouldnt be the start of it or setting a dangerous precedent cos not alone was it done with that lithuaian but it also happened with rivaldo after his disgraceful dive holding his face a few years back

Anyway I would accept a ban for eduado as long as this practice was continued in every single occasion that it happens in european compition down the line but of course it is doubtful that will happen aint it.

A quick question though........if it was eboue that dived would most of you guys defend him like you have done eduardo ?

Post by **g88ner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:55 pm

augie wrote:Anyway I would accept a ban for eduado as long as this practice was continued in every single occasion that it happens in european compition down the line but of course it is doubtful that will happen aint it.

Me too, but I doubt it would happen... instead, Eduardo would be banned, and later down the line Gerrard, or Rooney, or Ronaldo will do the same and not get punished. That's not justice, it's selective and that's not impartial.

But, as I've said, IF this is the incident that gets UEFA/FIFA using video evidence to ban all cheats (and not just the odd one) then so be it, but as Radford points out, where would it stop??? that's the danger.

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:02 pm

BT wrote:Sorry of this has been picked up before. I'm not going to defend Eduardo diving but did anyone see this in the original link

Speaking after the Arsenal match, Celtic defender Glenn Loovens also offered his thoughts on Eduardo and his penalty claim.

"I don't think he even speaks English so there was no point talking to him," said the Dutch centre-half.
Nice bit of xenaphobia thrown in. Eduardo does speak English, his manager talks to him in it, I've seen him interviewed...what a fucking stupid comment.

That's rich coming from the player of a team who can't even speak English themselves - well not coherently...TWAT!

wlchuccc · Post by **wlchuccc** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:03 pm

I will be extremely annoyed if Eduardo gets banned...Look, Babel dived few years ago, did they investigate for anything? No...

Why make it such a big deal? Because of Arsenal

Everyone is scared of us?! They need to have the same ruler, and get stick with their balls

(sorry for my poor english)...I am so annoyed. Today, not less than 10 ppl came and asked me about the penalty, FFS, Ronaldo/Gerrad/Drogba/Rooney they all like to dive, if Eduardo get banned for a game or so, these players should never ever play in European football FFS