Looks Like We have 45 million to spend? Who will you Buy?

[mrgnu1958]

"But Boom"sey...Why would Arsenal announce to all and sundry what wevegot to spend.

[flash gunner]

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[Boomer]

"But Boom"sey...Why would Arsenal announce to all and sundry what wevegot to spend.

They wouldn't. I was refering to 'someone's' made up that figure.

[rodders999]

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What a vulgar thing to do with one's wonga!!

[Boomer]

i would say hes taling bout this

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/transfer ... hest.html?

but i wouldnt believe a word of it

This is old news. The finace report was done at our last set of figures.
Sure most are of the opinion that the Arsenal will be one of the richest club. I don't doubt that but......and this is the big butt! Will the board hand or say to Wenger "you've £45M to spend" or allow him too? Doubt it.
The other point is say this is correct.....
Wenger will more likely use it to buy a load of unknowns and youth players. No point getting excited about it.

[northbankbren]

No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.

Wouldn't that mean we only spent like £5mill on Arshavin?

Wasn't it a £15mill deal and he's gotta be on 70k a week?

Dunno but this cant be rite, can it?

[mrgnu1958]

"But Boom"sey...Why would Arsenal announce to all and sundry what wevegot to spend.

They wouldn't. I was refering to 'someone's' made up that figure.

OOPS! sorry maan

[donaldo]

We need to sign 6 players

1. A Quality keeper which neither Average or Flappy are.

2.Two CB's Sol cant play 2 games in a week.Tweety is shit,Djourou is injury prone

3.A DM.When Song is injured we are left with Denilson.Say no more

4.Two Strikers. Eduardo is a busted flush and does anyone really believe RVP can go half a season without a long term injury?

Thats what we need but we will get Chamakh(free) and two 15 year olds.

Wenger will tell us RVP,Ramsey and Djourou will be like new signings

[Boomer]

No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.

Wouldn't that mean we only spent like £5mill on Arshavin?

Wasn't it a £15mill deal and he's gotta be on 70k a week?

Dunno but this cant be rite, can it?

No, the transfer was around £15M but he's wages also come out of the budget. I think the term 'Transfer kitty' is branded around by the press.

Put it this way. Say AA23's on 90K a week. 3 year deal (£14,040,00 in total)
So out of the budget went £29.04M

[Boomer]

"But Boom"sey...Why would Arsenal announce to all and sundry what wevegot to spend.

They wouldn't. I was refering to 'someone's' made up that figure.

OOPS! sorry maan

No worries. I can see how you saw it. I probably wasn't clear enough.

[mrgnu1958]

nah...im just thick mate.

[Boomer]

nah...im just thick mate.

Think, but only 2"!

[Bergkamp-Genius]

You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.

Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.

I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)

That's £40m already

Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on

No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.

Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.

The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..

Don't ask me why it is this way but it is. I think it was Wenger that said it. It was something like "Even if I have £15 Million (reported amount at the time) I wouldn't be able to buy a player of world class quality. The amount would have to factor in a players wage"

Maybe it's spin as £45M sounds a massive warchest. But not when you factor in wages and renewals.
Could you see Arsene having £45M to spend soley on transfers? I could on the other had see it if this factored in wages and renewals.

Oh it's definitely spin or bullshit what ever you want to call it and all delivered to confuse..Thats the whole point i'm making..

And yes i could see Arsene having 45m to spend if he wanted it and asked for it, i just can't see him wanting it or asking for it..and the only way he will spend that kind of money is if he sells players worth more than that to balance what he has spent, thats how he likes doing things regardless of how much is available and i don't see that changing..

[Boomer]

Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on

No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.

Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.

The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..

Don't ask me why it is this way but it is. I think it was Wenger that said it. It was something like "Even if I have £15 Million (reported amount at the time) I wouldn't be able to buy a player of world class quality. The amount would have to factor in a players wage"

Maybe it's spin as £45M sounds a massive warchest. But not when you factor in wages and renewals.
Could you see Arsene having £45M to spend soley on transfers? I could on the other had see it if this factored in wages and renewals.

Oh it's definitely spin or bullshit what ever you want to call it and all delivered to confuse..Thats the whole point i'm making..

And yes i could see Arsene having 45m to spend if he wanted it and asked for it, i just can't see him wanting it or asking for it..and the only way he will spend that kind of money is if he sells players worth more than that to balance what he has spent, thats how he likes doing things regardless of how much is available and i don't see that changing..

I just spoke about this thread to my mate here at work. (Mouser)
Liverpool do the same. It's a budget figure*.

*If of course this is true.

[Bergkamp-Genius]

You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.

Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.

I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)

That's £40m already

Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on

No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.

Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.

The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..

I am a bit confused everytime a press ask a board memeber or the chairman about what happens to the transfer money we get from player sales they say that all of it is available to wenger and now we are making profit on the property front then why wont the money be a available I just dont get it.
We have cut our debt from 320 million to 190 million. All the flats sale will mean we get another 30-40 million additional revenue then why can't we spend 30-40 million on players I dont get it and its jsut not on one player but 2-4 players

In short because our manager is 'old school' he doesn't like spending money and he likes to balance the books, plus turning silver into gold is too easy for him he thinks he's god and can turn dog shit into gold..