Theres gonna Be a Fans Backlash...

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bergkamp10 wrote:That's the word on some of the other forums, a boycott of the Emirates Cup and banners for the Barnet game???
Good fucking call! At least our nazi stewards won't be at Barnét. I wasn't planning on going to the Ems cup anyway.

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Tbh I can't blame Wenger for this. And a shit transfer would be the boards fault. It is really time we got a decent fucking board

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rigsby wrote:Tbh I can't blame Wenger for this. And a shit transfer would be the boards fault. It is really time we got a decent fucking board
Wenger has full control over transfers!

Stop trying to shift the blame from someone you hold in far to great esteem!

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While the signs dont look great, I'm sceptical about it all. Wenger would have to be pushed really very hard to let Fab go, including a massive transfer fee and some incredible signings. Even if you dont think Wenger gives a shit about the fans and/or club, he does care about the so-called "Project Wenger", and Fabregas is surely central to that. Letting him go would be seen as defeat, by him, the media, the remaining fans who dont already think so. He has said in interviews that he wont be going, "Fabregas has a contract and is one of our best players [always the diplomat], so why would we let him go?" or words to that effect. We will see if he can manage to keep him, but as I say, letting him go would really need some heavy justification.

Shame we havent seen Merida become the "next Fabregas" that he was promised to be. There have even been strong rumours he will be leaving too - perhaps he will see Fabregas' departure as an opening and take the opportunity to prove himself, much like Ad*'yor did after Henry left...

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nino_rojo wrote:While the signs dont look great, I'm sceptical about it all. Wenger would have to be pushed really very hard to let Fab go, including a massive transfer fee and some incredible signings. Even if you dont think Wenger gives a shit about the fans and/or club, he does care about the so-called "Project Wenger", and Fabregas is surely central to that. Letting him go would be seen as defeat, by him, the media, the remaining fans who dont already think so. He has said in interviews that he wont be going, "Fabregas has a contract and is one of our best players [always the diplomat], so why would we let him go?" or words to that effect. We will see if he can manage to keep him, but as I say, letting him go would really need some heavy justification.

Shame we havent seen Merida become the "next Fabregas" that he was promised to be. There have even been strong rumours he will be leaving too - perhaps he will see Fabregas' departure as an opening and take the opportunity to prove himself, much like Ad*'yor did after Henry left...
:lol:

And look what a fine, upstanding citizen he turned out to be.

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On a serious note, selling for £40m plus and promoting a youngster who has barely played for us. You should really be working for Arsenal. :-P

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haha, ok Ade wasnt teh best example, but he did have a very good season once Henry had left, and I had always felt he seemed very begrudged being under such a word class player. Merida seems in a similar position at the moment.

I'm not in any way suggesting that hes certain to be a short term replacement, or that he will ever replace Fabregas. Just suggesting that he may start to live up to the hype, if/when Fabregas leaves.

I'm definitely in agreement with pretty much everyone else that if Fabregas wants to go he shouldnt go for less than £50m, and I'm not sure what incentive Ibrahimavic or Yaya would be. If he is happy to stay, then no amount of money should be enough to see him leave this summer. I did however read reports a few weeks ago that Fabregas has had his wages increased and a huge "signing on" fee to keep him at the club, which is backdated a few years. If this is true and he still leaves, or even makes it public that he wants to, does that make him a bit of an Ade?

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Wenger has full control over transfers!

Stop trying to shift the blame from someone you hold in far to great esteem!
Erm I am far from a Wenger sympathiser. I was saying I wouldnt blame him if we got a shit transfer fee for Cesc. That would be with the board IMO

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nino_rojo wrote:haha, ok Ade wasnt teh best example, but he did have a very good season once Henry had left, and I had always felt he seemed very begrudged being under such a word class player. Merida seems in a similar position at the moment.

I'm not in any way suggesting that hes certain to be a short term replacement, or that he will ever replace Fabregas. Just suggesting that he may start to live up to the hype, if/when Fabregas leaves.

I'm definitely in agreement with pretty much everyone else that if Fabregas wants to go he shouldnt go for less than £50m, and I'm not sure what incentive Ibrahimavic or Yaya would be. If he is happy to stay, then no amount of money should be enough to see him leave this summer. I did however read reports a few weeks ago that Fabregas has had his wages increased and a huge "signing on" fee to keep him at the club, which is backdated a few years. If this is true and he still leaves, or even makes it public that he wants to, does that make him a bit of an Ade?
Yep, I know what you mean re adebayor. And Merida.

As for Fabregas, I don't think that the course of events you describe will make him like Ade. Ade had one good season, after which he bounced around between wanting to stay and courting Milan/Barcelona - then proceeding to have a poor, poor season. Fabregas has been at the club for 7 years, has been player of the year how many times, and has never given less than the limit. If he wishes to leave, then the credit he has built up should go some way to offset any negative factors relating to him asking to leave the club while under contract. Also, importantly, I think it's fair to say that Adebayor was all about the money...and Fabregas it can be reasonably assumed is about the club he wants to join.

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There won't be a fans backlash as others have stated because our fan base has changed and I doubt anyone can be arsed to organise anything. 3 Months down the line when the season starts it'll be Deja Vu as the ground will be full of tourists, the stewards will behave like *word censored*, we'll all curse Denilson and Diaby and Arsene will blame everyone but himself for our next defeat.

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tel wrote:There won't be a fans backlash as others have stated because our fan base has changed and I doubt anyone can be arsed to organise anything. 3 Months down the line when the season starts it'll be Deja Vu as the ground will be full of tourists, the stewards will behave like c**ts, we'll all curse Denilson and Diaby and Arsene will blame everyone but himself for our next defeat.
Spot on

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The only way would be a continued chant of something. Or something after the game. Though what good it'll do is debatable. However if the season starts and we still haven't signed a keeper surely a 'SIGN A FUCKING KEEPER' chant

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rigsby wrote:The only way would be a continued chant of something. Or something after the game. Though what good it'll do is debatable. However if the season starts and we still haven't signed a keeper surely a 'SIGN A FUCKING KEEPER' chant
That would be no different to booing the keeper.

"get your cheque book out" would be more apt.....but sadly by then the season would already be under way and be too late.

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We all know what happend when someone tried to make a point about signings with a banner at the Fulham game

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Fuck sake ramon! you've posted that link in 3 threads now.
If you weren't content with copying posts before your now over posting repeated posts!

I wouldn't mind as much but there no comment in any of your 3 post except the links. :roll: :banghead:

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