Theo OUT

Post by **REB** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:56 pm

im gutted for the guy.

jamjc64 · Post by **jamjc64** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:58 pm

The DBs wrote:No Gooners in the squad! Good even more reason to support France

Joking aside, this is a sad reflection on our club at the moment, maybe there is a link in that we have been without a trophy for so long

rigsby · Post by **rigsby** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:59 pm

He's Arsenal so I'm gutted for him.

treatygooner · Post by **treatygooner** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:03 pm

ssn hav just announced that its now official he is the "shock omission" according to them .. says it all really ....even england think he is not good enough......

Nwankwokanu · Post by **Nwankwokanu** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:03 pm

dont worry wenger has again gave a new long term contract to one our long term injured players. good we have tried up ramsey long term, but not when he hasnt kicked a ball since feb.

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:04 pm

jamjc64 wrote:
The DBs wrote:No Gooners in the squad! Good even more reason to support France
Joking aside, this is a sad reflection on our club at the moment, maybe there is a link in that we have been without a trophy for so long

Could also be a reflection of the fact that we only have one England international in our first team squad

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:11 pm

jamjc64 wrote:
The DBs wrote:No Gooners in the squad! Good even more reason to support France
Joking aside, this is a sad reflection on our club at the moment, maybe there is a link in that we have been without a trophy for so long

Been saying it for years; foreign flair is great but you need a spine of steel, be it English or Scots or Irish, in a team to win the PL in particular.

Look at manure and the chavs in the PL (and the mousers in Europe); Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, Cole, Gerrard, Carragher... that's just off the top of me head too.

We need some British (or Oirish!) steel back in the side!

worthing_gooner · Post by **worthing_gooner** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:12 pm

I think it's a bit of an odd decision to be honest. Everyone knows Theo is an impact player so playing him from the start is not getting the best out of him. Also, he plays best when he plays as a winger. Apparently Capello was doing that, but the last few games I've seen Theo more in his own half than in the oppositions.

The trouble with Theo is that if he sticks in one dodgy cross, Shrek gets arsy and Theo gets scared and puts in an even worse cross next time. Hopefully this will be the kick up the backside for the lad to grow some balls and attitude.

I'm not a huge Theo fan either, but I do think people are a little harsh on him. He's been under scrutiny in all the england games so far and the one against Mexico springs to mind. I thought he played alright against Mexico and put in a couple of quality crosses. The fact fat frank and rooney didnt bother playing him in is their problem. Also, he had a far better game than James Milner who I actually don't ever remember touching the ball.

With regards to Lennon, I'd hope he's a better player than Walcott seeing as he's a couple of years older, and people are forgetting that at 21 Lennon was utter shyte and nowhere near the England squad. He's being put in on the back of a half decent five months at the start of the season - the first half decent months of his entire career.

Even then, Walcott probably scored more goals than he did in the few months he wasn't injured.

I think Walcott's had a decent season bearing in mind he's only had a few months. The goal against Barce at the grove was good, the run for Bendtner's goal in the Nou Camp was good, the goal against Burnley was quality, not to mention the million and one crosses he laid on a plate for Bendtner to hoof over. The goal against Wigan was also pretty good. I think it's a shame, but hey, at least he'll be fully fit for next season and hopefully his confidence isnt completely shattered.

Dazk1981 · Post by **Dazk1981** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:17 pm

He's not good enough to start games, still would of brought him though cos he does do well when he comes off the bench, he's not even good enough to start games for arsenal let alone england

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:24 pm

Dazk1981 wrote:He's not good enough to start games, still would of brought him though cos he does do well when he comes off the bench, he's not even good enough to start games for arsenal let alone england

Exactly. If he isn't good enough to start then he's not good enough to go....

He'll still only be 23 for the next European Championships and 25 for the next World Cup. So he has plenty of time to prove in his Arsenal performances that he is ready!

Post by **g88ner** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:36 pm

Good post, Worthing.

I too am a little surprised he hasn't gone as an impact player. We know from his Arsenal performances that he's pretty rubbish when he starts games, but has also shown that he can make a difference in the final 15mins when brought on against tired teams and/or when the game is stretched.

That said, so can SWP.

As an England fan, I'd have liked him to have been on the bench in the World Cup, but never mind. He hasn't really earned his place anyway.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:39 pm

LDB wrote:
donaldo wrote:
LDB wrote:This is what i dont get... walcott flatters to deceive.. so we go with shaun wright-philips and aaron lennon

At least walcott can score goals
I would take them two over Walcott any day of the week.All Walcott has is pace without the fucking ball
Walcott is invaluable as an impact player and carries a pedigree and fear in opposition defences.

Its 80 minute mark againt germany, England are 2-1 down. On comes Shaun Wright-Philips.

Good luck with that.

Agree, but we are in minority.

I think Joe Cole should go because he is quality, but Walcott up front gets goals.

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:51 pm

Been saying it for years; foreign flair is great but you need a spine of steel, be it English or Scots or Irish, in a team to win the PL in particular.

Look at manure and the chavs in the PL (and the mousers in Europe); Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, Cole, Gerrard, Carragher... that's just off the top of me head too.

We need some British (or Oirish!) steel back in the side!

Or Aussie.

augie · Post by **augie** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:52 pm

Worthing, people on here are not being harsh on him cos of his performances in the english shirt.....we are watching him show his shitiness for our club every time he plays

I have no doubt that the fact he spouts off so often about his engerland dreams has def played a part in the fans feelings towards him as well - he is paid (excessively I might add) by our club and his priority should always been Arsenal FC but with theo it does not look that way no matter how many fools have chanted his name in support of him at the grove

Swale_Gooner1985 · Post by **Swale_Gooner1985** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:52 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:
jamjc64 wrote:
The DBs wrote:No Gooners in the squad! Good even more reason to support France
Joking aside, this is a sad reflection on our club at the moment, maybe there is a link in that we have been without a trophy for so long
Been saying it for years; foreign flair is great but you need a spine of steel, be it English or Scots or Irish, in a team to win the PL in particular.

Look at manure and the chavs in the PL (and the mousers in Europe); Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, Terry, Lampard, Cole, Gerrard, Carragher... that's just off the top of me head too.

We need some British (or Oirish!) steel back in the side!

Like who? id be interested to hear these Irish signings we should make? even the English ones will be interesting. who should we buy?