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DB10GOONER wrote:

SWLGooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:

SWLGooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:

Because life is unfair.

You have shattered my innocence.

I didn't touch you!!!!

Yes but if I say so I get attention. And you stop fucking sniping me when I'M ON YOUR TEAM, ASSHOLE!!

I will always snipe at kids that take online gaming too seriously. It's far more fun than actually playing it seriously!

I am one of those people that DOESN'T PLAY COD. But I do play FIFA.

And throw things when I lose to the scum.

Does that count?

SWLGooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:

SWLGooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:

SWLGooner wrote: You have shattered my innocence.

I didn't touch you!!!!

Yes but if I say so I get attention. And you stop fucking sniping me when I'M ON YOUR TEAM, ASSHOLE!!

I will always snipe at kids that take online gaming too seriously. It's far more fun than actually playing it seriously!

I am one of those people that DOESN'T PLAY COD. But I do play FIFA.

And throw things when I lose to the scum.

Does that count?

Borderline acceptable.

augie wrote:

REBEL GOONER wrote:

augie wrote:For the record I believe that this board currently "serving" Arsenal are an absolute shower of wankers that are only interested in increasing the value of their shares and I wish they would fcuk off and mine some coal or gas out in chile

Funnily enough it isnt just usmartin that feels this way but because of constant beating of this drum most of you have now taken the position of opposing whatever he says and tbh martin you only have yourself to blame

your first moan about the board since usmartin came on board

has he stole your thunder young augie

It has now gotten to the stage that I dont even mention the board anymore..........he may be genuine or he may well be another "character" created by an existing member but you can only beat the same drum so many times without losing the message you are trying to get across. I have said to him on many occasions that he is turning people against his ideas purely as a result of so so many repeat posts and he has chosen to ignore that warning which makes me feel that he is on a piss take/wind up

I mean no disrespect Augie but I think you are fooling yourself here.

Let's be serious - very serious. You theory is making excuses for people who simply don't have the will on their own or otherwise as in this case to make the effort. We all know individual letters no matter how many simply won't get it done.

So if people don't want to sign my petition because they don't like me personally why is there no other petition circualted by of them? If there was such a petiton dating back to that time I could buy your argument, but I have yet to see hear or read of one put otgther by anyone here certainly unless it is a double-secret petition of some sorts only certain people are invited to sign or some such bizarreness.

As for your seeming assertion that the less we discuss the Board's actual or possible impact on the events from 2005 to now and their potential impact on events going forward, would you care to explain how that works exactly?

I am 100% serious - can you explain how not discussing this gets more people to think about it and re-consider their position from here? Because this is rather hard to understand on its own. How you believe discussing the Board less will actually lead more people to take more of interest in changing how Arsenal is run for the better just doesn't make sense at all. How does not mentioning the Board at all get more Gooners to consider the Board's impact on these events more?

The bottom line you only kidding yourself Augie. You not ready to really say or do anything yourself on your own yet it seems - that was the challenge hurled at me from several on here as well so don't take that personally - and reading your posts you almost seem to be counting on things getting so bad we will join together because there will be no other option.

The problem there is that there is no more guarantee of real success then than there is now if the Board simply don't care what we think, and by then we will have let Arsenal slip down into an even more precarious posittion on - and quite possibly off - the pitch.

If people don't like me that doesn't stop them signing a petition they believe in. If they don't sign it's because they don't want to whatever their reasons. The idea that there would be more signers from here if we just were more quiet like the "good Gooners" is a fallacy.The fact that no one has attempted a petition even with the selling point that this is not that boring wanker USMartin's petition (which would probably be so popular it might even trick some of the true believers into signing) says it all.

Saying nothing will change nothing - period.

saying what your saying will change nothing. vaginal bleeding.

Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

Augie I'm not trying to have a go - but simply saying the Board are wankers even with some first-class gusto has no chance of accomplishing anything on our behalf.

Maybe a petition even if fully embraced by every sector of the Gooner community has no better chance. The thing is maybe it does. It's got to be better than just calling the Board wankers or bastards or whatever.

There are things I would change about how I apprached some of this I had it to do all over again, but honestly the one thing I wouldn't do is simply say as little as possible on these matters. In fact if people truly shared the same concerns as me and the desire to try and actually do something to address them I wouldn't be banging on constantly about this because I wouldn't have had to. It's not like a ton of people were standing with me then peeled away over time. They weren't there really from day one - at least there weren't willing to take the next step.

USMartin wrote:Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

stop putting words into my mouth you stupid yank *word censored*. I've expressed that I have concerns with the board but there is nothing seriously wrong.

the fact is you've posted the same thing 2000 times and we've had enough. go troll the official forum . you'll fit right in

USMartin wrote:

Henry Norris 1913 wrote: saying what your saying will change nothing. vaginal bleeding.

Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

Ok Martin, here's a challenge for you...

Please explain how you came to the conclusion I've highlighted above! - personally, I think you're going down that well trodden path again of putting words in people's mouths and talking utter nonsense just to wind people up. Now, I'm sure you've got far too much integrity to stoop so low, so please, please, prove me wrong!!!

Oh, and lets not go round the houses and engineer a discussion... it's a very very simple question, and requires nothing more than a simple answer.

Thanks in advance, g88ner.

g88ner wrote:

USMartin wrote:

Henry Norris 1913 wrote: saying what your saying will change nothing. vaginal bleeding.

Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

Ok Martin, here's a challenge for you...

Please explain how you came to the conclusion I've highlighted above! - personally, I think you're going down that well trodden path again of putting words in people's mouths and talking utter nonsense just to wind people up, so please, please, prove me wrong!!!

Oh, and lets not go round the houses and engineer a discussion... it's a very very simple question, and requires nothing more than a simple answer.

Thanks in advance, g88ner.

I admire your optimism

g88ner wrote:

USMartin wrote:

Henry Norris 1913 wrote: saying what your saying will change nothing. vaginal bleeding.

Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

Ok Martin, here's a challenge for you...

Please explain how you came to the conclusion I've highlighted above! - personally, I think you're going down that well trodden path again of putting words in people's mouths and talking utter nonsense just to wind people up. Now, I'm sure you've got far too much integrity to stoop so low, so please, please, prove me wrong!!!

Oh, and lets not go round the houses and engineer a discussion... it's a very very simple question, and requires nothing more than a simple answer.

Thanks in advance, g88ner.

First off its fallacious to indicate there is a simple answer answer here. I can prove it but I doubt in the required minimal time and space you would seek to impose

Second off it is utterly hypocritcal given just how many people have constantly put words in my outh or directly used false or mis-leading information to staisfy there own incorrect of false conlusions abotu me and about whether or not I am a supporter. And if you actually read the posts you know I am absolutely correct about that. Yet I don't see you discouraging any of that or challenging those people to prve the facts behind what they are saying or saying I am saying or have done here or elsewhere. Care to explain? And I won't limit your opportunity to do so in any way whatsoever

With all due respect you are starting to show that same inconsistency many show in which they apply different standards or burdens of proff to the people they agree with or know better and are firends with than the people they disagree with or don't know as well or like as much. I'm sorry to be offfensive if in fact you take this that way, but can you honestly say you have held anyone else addressing to the same standards of anything in these discussions? I know early on you did to be fair but how about the last two moths - have you got one example of calling anyone else out for putting words in my mouth or making mis-leading or unsubstantiated claims against me? Not some general stop-picking-on-him sort of thing but a real challenge to someone to prove their claims?

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:

USMartin wrote:Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

stop putting words into my mouth you stupid yank c**t. I've expressed that I have concerns with the board but there is nothing seriously wrong.

the fact is you've posted the same thing 2000 times and we've had enough. go troll the official forum . you'll fit right in

Your Majesty?

I wishing there was a bowing smiley - I feel soooo embarassed now - like some stupid yank *word censored* who forgot his protocol

Seriously if you think I unfairly put words in mouth than despite the fact that I think I am dead right about you I will apologize anyway which is more obviously than I should expect from you. Self-righteous hypocrite.

Whatever you think what I said then and now is much closer to the truth than your crap and there's not a thing you can do to change that but change yourself. Can't blame me for your being a crass and classless twit.

your not dead right with me you self righteous mug

USMartin wrote:First off its fallacious to indicate there is a simple answer answer here. I can prove it but I doubt in the required minimal time and space you would seek to impose

Second off it is utterly hypocritcal given just how many people have constantly put words in my outh or directly used false or mis-leading information to staisfy there own incorrect of false conlusions abotu me and about whether or not I am a supporter. And if you actually read the posts you know I am absolutely correct about that. Yet I don't see you discouraging any of that or challenging those people to prve the facts behind what they are saying or saying I am saying or have done here or elsewhere. Care to explain? And I won't limit your opportunity to do so in any way whatsoever

I knew you would't even attempt to answer the question! just deflect attention away instead. Top work, Martin

USMartin wrote:Yet I don't see you discouraging any of that or challenging those people to prve the facts behind what they are saying or saying I am saying or have done here or elsewhere. Care to explain? And I won't limit your opportunity to do so in any way whatsoever

Easy to explain.

I hold you in relatively high regard. I admire your views, your consistency, and your campaign. I've encouraged you on more than one occasion, and even signed your petition.

And, for the reason above, it irritates me that you resort to underhand tactics to wind people up by putting words in their mouths.

You have often attacked Quartz for misleading people, and you clearly despise the fact that the board mislead, lie and basically spout bullshit when it suits them, but you do the same. If something can be engineered to fit your agenda, then all gloves are off You stoop to their level by twisting words - you know you do it. You want the moral high ground over the board, but twisting words and manipulating debates by putting words in people's mouths is nothing but a cheap shot. It shoots your integrity to hell.

As for my "inconsistency"...

If I was attending a lecture on food hygiene, then I'd expect the lecturer to practice what he preaches. If, however, he was behaving in a similar fashion to those he condemns for poor hygiene, then I'd be annoyed. I'd be critical. Does that mean, to be consistent, I should be critical and annoyed at all people who are unhygienic? no, of course not - just the silly sod of a lecturer who can't live up to the standards that he set!

FOR FACK SAKE, SHUT UP

I'm talking to Martin of course

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:

USMartin wrote:Not with you Henry because you want to believe everything is fine and it's all Good Old Arsenal and all of that still.

stop putting words into my mouth you stupid yank c**t. I've expressed that I have concerns with the board but there is nothing seriously wrong.

the fact is you've posted the same thing 2000 times and we've had enough. go troll the official forum . you'll fit right in

Oi! Stop throwing your dirt our way! We at the official forum will sign a petition against the passing of trolls from this forum to our forum