Our Squad: Changes that need to be made in the summer.

stg · Post by **stg** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:20 pm

As USM said it all depends on Fabregas as I have said on many occasions the 451/433 formation we play is set up to get the best out of one(maybe 2) players. My main concern about this formation is the effect it has on our defence.
It makes Clichy and Sanga look poor so if we are to continue with the 451/433 formation I think we need a new LB(will Gibbs be good enough?) as Clichy's positioning skills are not good enough to cope with this formation. Our CD's is ok as long as we get TV back fit with JD and LK with Squilachi and one or two younger players as back up. I think Sanga also struggles with the formation but copes better than Clichy a new covering right back for Sanga is needed.

In midfield you will have Fabregas as the main attacking player with Wilshere and Song behind him. Out wide is where I think the problems lay against most teams we should be fine with Nasri, Arshavin, Walcott but against teams who attack us we need players who can also track back and help Sanga and Clichy(?). I must admit they are getting better at this over the season

The 451/533 does suit RVP but does not suit anyother of our strikers

So what would I do

Let go:-
Gerry Peyton get a new GK coach in
Tony Colbert his fitness coaching does not seem to work
Paul Akers assistant kit manager WTF!!!!
Manuel Almunia
Gael Clichy
Abou Diaby-sorry just cant see where you will fit into an Arsenal system
Tomas Rosicky-a Take That tribute band is waiting for you somewhere
Nicklas Bendtner-Will make a good player but not at Arsenal
Armand Traore
Sanchez Watt
Gavin Hoyte
Pat Rice-Sorry Pat but I think it's time Steve Bould made the move up.

Should one team be built around one player?
If Wenger/Arsenal keep Fabregas then they need to buy players that fit into that system not buy players and try and make them fit

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:36 pm

Sorry but this is a pointless thread. Maximum two players out. Wenger will bring in no more than two players worth Â£8-10m each, max, and they will be French or African.
There's no need for discussion because this is what happens pretty much every year with the muppet in charge.

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:45 pm

stg wrote:
So what would I do

Let go:-
Gerry Peyton get a new GK coach in
Tony Colbert his fitness coaching does not seem to work
Paul Akers assistant kit manager WTF!!!!
Manuel Almunia
Gael Clichy
Abou Diaby-sorry just cant see where you will fit into an Arsenal system
Tomas Rosicky-a Take That tribute band is waiting for you somewhere
Nicklas Bendtner-Will make a good player but not at Arsenal
Armand Traore
Sanchez Watt
Gavin Hoyte
Pat Rice-Sorry Pat but I think it's time Steve Bould made the move up.

Agreed but we need a No2 who will stand up to Wenger and not be a nodding dog like Pat.And can you honestly see Wenger bringing someone in who will question his decisions?

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:16 pm

Without wishing to cause offence to the original poster but this thread is a waste ot time - wenger will still be in charge so forget your dreams about signing quality players and ridding the club of the pure shite that currently represents you and me cos they, like wenger himself, are here to stay

The 1st change needed is a new manager brought in from outside the club as opposed to promoting one of wenger's disciples who will only ratify and endorse everything wenger did and said

A new manager will automatically get rid of the dross cos he wont have the same debt of loyalty wenger seem's to have so if you want to upgrade then replace the manager cos everything else will then fall into place (not all next summer/season mind)

Its Up 4 Grabs Now · Post by **Its Up 4 Grabs Now** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:35 pm

augie wrote:Without wishing to cause offence to the original poster but this thread is a waste ot time - wenger will still be in charge so forget your dreams about signing quality players and ridding the club of the pure shite that currently represents you and me cos they, like wenger himself, are here to stay

Wouldnâ€™t that mean all those posts about Wenger needing to resign & fuck off out the club were/are also â€œa waste of timeâ€

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:41 pm

Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
augie wrote:Without wishing to cause offence to the original poster but this thread is a waste ot time - wenger will still be in charge so forget your dreams about signing quality players and ridding the club of the pure shite that currently represents you and me cos they, like wenger himself, are here to stay

Wouldnâ€™t that mean all those posts about Wenger needing to resign & fuck off out the club were/are also â€œa waste of timeâ€

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:11 pm

TeeCee wrote:Sorry but this is a pointless thread. Maximum two players out. Wenger will bring in no more than two players worth Â£8-10m each, max, and they will be French or African.
There's no need for discussion because this is what happens pretty much every year with the muppet in charge.

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:27 pm

marcengels wrote:
Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
augie wrote:Without wishing to cause offence to the original poster but this thread is a waste ot time - wenger will still be in charge so forget your dreams about signing quality players and ridding the club of the pure shite that currently represents you and me cos they, like wenger himself, are here to stay

Wouldnâ€™t that mean all those posts about Wenger needing to resign & fuck off out the club were/are also â€œa waste of timeâ€

Its Up 4 Grabs Now · Post by **Its Up 4 Grabs Now** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:41 pm

augie wrote:If ye two have nothing better to do than dissect my thoughtful opinions then please refrain from logging on here

Fucking WUM!

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:48 pm

augie wrote:

If ye two have nothing better to do than dissect my thoughtful opinions then please refrain from logging on here

ok.

shit!

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:49 pm

Oi, stop making my thread descend into farce you clung wum *word censored*.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:23 pm

augie wrote:Without wishing to cause offence to the original poster but this thread is a waste ot time - wenger will still be in charge so forget your dreams about signing quality players and ridding the club of the pure shite that currently represents you and me cos they, like wenger himself, are here to stay

The 1st change needed is a new manager brought in from outside the club as opposed to promoting one of wenger's disciples who will only ratify and endorse everything wenger did and said A new manager will automatically get rid of the dross cos he wont have the same debt of loyalty wenger seem's to have so if you want to upgrade then replace the manager cos everything else will then fall into place (not all next summer/season mind)

But is that something the Board is genuienly ready and willing to do? I think 1991 actually said it best the current arrangement works for both the Manager and the Board.

I don't think the Board - expecially if their intent is to step aside to cash in - will want any sort of change that might distract form their plans, and that is certaoinly what sacking the manager would do.

It raises three distinct possibilities that whatever their motives are I suspect the Board do not want to see -

First that Arsene Wneger may become more candid about the policies in place at Arsenal to the point that he reveals some possibly very dirty laundry regarding those policies that coul d cause real embarassment and even trouble.

Second that a new manager might like many of us now believe, believe he will be free to spend significantly more money than the current manager and when they find out otherwise whether before or after they interview for the position that money is not available may make that publicly known and start the very same trouble.

Finally if they hire either a disciple of Mr. Wenger or someone from inside the club with little or no managerial experience and there are no changes in the policies we would believe mandated Mr. Wenger being sacked it will be hard for the Board to claim its all purely coincidental that we aren't spending a penny more now than before and that will start this trouble too.

The only way they can stave this off to me is to keep Mr. Wenger in place as long as possible because as long as her is there, no one really is questioning the Board directly, and by no one I mean the media or the supporters groups. They would be foolish to change anything at this point really, because either they would have to change the financial piolicies or they would fall under real scrutiny then, because they couldn't hide behind Arsene Wenger anymore.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:02 pm

As to the squad itself I have peice but its rther loge analyzing how to re-build and/or re-shape the squad in the event Cesc does leave - but guess what guys its kind of long

- so maybe I'll post it here or open it another thread to carry on from there, so people can read that and choose to reply or not.

I will say this our goal should be to have at least twenty or twenty one genuine first eleven quality players as we did in 2003-2004 (in 2001-2002 we had twenty five in 1997-1998 twenty-two). in order to kminimize the likelihood of injuries seriously impacting our performance. In my mind this current squad - including Cesc Fabregas - comes up four or five players short of that mark.

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:12 pm

USMartin wrote:As to the squad itself I have peice but its rther loge analyzing how to re-build and/or re-shape the squad in the event Cesc does leave - but guess what guys its kind of long - so maybe I'll post it here or open it another thread to carry on from there, so people can read that and choose to reply or not.

I will say this our goal should be to have at least twenty or twenty one genuine first eleven quality players as we did in 2003-2004 (in 2001-2002 we had twenty five in 1997-1998 twenty-two). in order to kminimize the likelihood of injuries seriously impacting our performance. In my mind this current squad - including Cesc Fabregas - comes up four or five players short of that mark.

Quotation and bolding FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:21 pm

frankbutcher wrote:
USMartin wrote:As to the squad itself I have peice but its rther loge analyzing how to re-build and/or re-shape the squad in the event Cesc does leave - but guess what guys its kind of long - so maybe I'll post it here or open it another thread to carry on from there, so people can read that and choose to reply or not.

I will say this our goal should be to have at least twenty or twenty one genuine first eleven quality players as we did in 2003-2004 (in 2001-2002 we had twenty five in 1997-1998 twenty-two). in order to kminimize the likelihood of injuries seriously impacting our performance. In my mind this current squad - including Cesc Fabregas - comes up four or five players short of that mark.
Quotation and bolding FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!