To boo or not To boo?

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The point is though would any of you non boo-ers change do it on the last game or last home game of the season if we couldn't win the league but had second spot wrapped up and so the effect on the performance that day would be irrelevant

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Goonanana wrote:The point is though would any of you non boo-ers change do it on the last game or last home game of the season if we couldn't win the league but had second spot wrapped up and so the effect on the performance that day would be irrelevant
hmmm... still wouldn't boo. Something about an adult standing there going "Booo! Booo!" is just a tad arseholio, no? :wink:

I would be on for some form of protest though, let Arsene know we ain't happy. Just not booing. Will hopefully be at that last game too, seeing as the two possible trips to Wembley are now fucked.

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Irish Gooner wrote:
LeoGooner wrote:
Demun210 wrote:
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Demun210 wrote:As I said on Saturday, maybe I'm old fashioned, but you don't boo your own players. Get pissed off for sure, but you don't boo.
Our players were getting booed in the 70s and 80s. It's not a new thing.

The players and manager live in a different world to us. They don't understand, and more importantly dont want to understand.

They want money at all costs, our opinion is like dirt on their shoe.

I would boo any player who is not giving their all, or had an attitude I disliked or was plainly shite, continually costing us yet Wenger wont do anything.

Half a dozen of our players could eaisly be booed and would be at other clubs and have been at ours.

The likes of Barry Bendtner, Almunia, Denilson, Squallaci and Rosicky and more have been disgracefull this season and more.
Football supporterss really need to get past this way of thinking that "we're the supporters, they owe us this, that and the other...etc...etc". It's a romantic way of thinking, but it's really irrelevant in the game today.

I wouldn't boo a player, but I think I've yelled at Denilson a few times. I don't mind if a player isn't playing well or gets found out to be out of his depth, but there's been times Denilson has looked lazy, and that annoys me.

That's the important point here though, and the one I think alot of people seem to forget. You can't boo a player just because they're not good enough, if they're trying. Take Squillaci, he's been a nightmare at times this season, but that's not through lack of effort, so to boo the bloke is harsh. I mean seriously, it doesn't matter if he's on £5k a week, or £50k, if he's going to make a mistake, he's going to make it.

I always come back to this, but I could understand booing players if we're in a relegation scrap and the fighting to stay in the league and there's players strolling around not giving a toss - but not when you're 2nd in the league. It makes us look so stupid when I'm there and I see our own fans booing our players, then I've got to talk to other football supporters and get tarred with the same brush. Like I said, booing is something that is reserved for the very worst circumstances, not just because the team / certain players have a few below-par games.

You've got to accept that football is going to be like this sometimes, and I has been frustrating but booing individual players isnt what being a supporter is about. Booing the team as a whole though, when the time is right, I can understand that a bit more.
First post of yours demun that I agree with. There's other ways of making our feelings known.
Like what other ways?

Arent you also someone who disagreed with the protest movement.

So whats left send letters in the post? :shock:

Er, no, i think you've got me mixed up with someone else, I've signed up. Other ways could include:
- banners in the stadium, if we can get them in
- protests around the directors/players entrance before and after games
- protests in the Armoury
- petition (as well as the above, not instead)
- boycotts of shops, catering, programmes etc
- actually, writing letters is not bad - hundreds or thousands of letters would give them a real problem, espcially if the letter was released to the press

Lots of good ideas in various threads, I'm not claiming to be original.

They are the sort of things I meant to make our feelings known - I would find it hard to boo our own players, whatever I think of them, although I might not clap or cheer them once in a while. i also think, like many on here, that the time for protest is after we are out of the title race (or have won it).

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franksav63 wrote:
marcengels wrote:
franksav63 wrote:I reckon booing plus the throwing of rancid and smelly fruit at them would get the message across...
Let's start a new movement...

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes ''The throwing of rancid fruit at our shit players movement'' (TTORFAOSPM) for short!!

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
I love new movements, espeically shitty Spurs ones..

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On topic, I think it's something that shouldnever take place within the game, however IMO supporters have a right if they pay good money, and it's bloody costly.

Then then buy a right too express an opinion. Instinctively I don't like hearing our players being booed, but what are fans supposed to do if they're being served up useless dross.

Some of our players are paid damn good money, and frankly there standards are stocking some weeks. That's what hurts supporters more then anything I think???

:x :?

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I dont like him boo hoo

bunch of spineless wimps

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Herd wrote:I dont like him boo hoo

bunch of spineless wimps

Im guessing you chiv the people you dont like, right? :worried: :D

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Herd wrote:I dont like him boo hoo

bunch of spineless wimps
Yes, finally, that's it Herd, you're getting into the spirit of it now... well done.. :lol: :lol:

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[/quote]Im guessing you chiv the people you dont like, right? :worried: :D[/quote]

Not normally a tool person having been trained in Sambo, but have been known to used the cheescutter for garroting from time to time.

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Whilst I can understand with boo'ing being childish, the plus side is that it is very easy to organise as everyone knows what they are saying! It is also nice and audible for TV to pick up so the press get on it.

The next best thing I suppose would be a very simple chant? Along the lines of Buy Now or Bye Bye over and over.

Trouble is that won't target the specific dross we want out. Bit harder to organise a chant of "Sell Denilson" and harder to hear :lol:

I'm sorry for being spineless Herd, maybe I should leap from my seat and shank Wenger and Denilson - that'll show them I'm the most ardent supporter out there GRRRR :roll:

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I would have no hesitation in booing after a poor performance, I would be quite happy to boo the likes of Denilson when they come on as sub or when their name is read out before a game.
Players like him deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
I think the Eboue incident was different and didn't agree with it, because whatever lack of ability he has, I have never doubted his commitment. Also on that particular day Arsenal were shit, and Wenger brought him on to play out of position, and I think he took the rap for the rest of the team.
Denilson, however is a lazy, useless *word censored*.

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shanking skaning

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I'm sorry for being spineless Herd, maybe I should leap from my seat and shank Wenger and Denilson - that'll show them I'm the most ardent supporter out there GRRRR :roll:

Shanking is sooo 2009 there are many different ways of registering ones disgust to the players and the manager.

Here's just one of my personal favorites !

Air Strikes ; Just call up the United States Government, tell them there's a populist uprising against an out of control despot who is torturing his people and committing atrocities ,and before you can shout EIE they will tell Cameron to move in. The RAF will strafe the managers dugout with tomahawk missiles and you will achieve regime change and clear out the dross on the bench.

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Herd wrote:I'm sorry for being spineless Herd, maybe I should leap from my seat and shank Wenger and Denilson - that'll show them I'm the most ardent supporter out there GRRRR :roll:

Shanking is sooo 2009 there are many different ways of registering ones disgust to the players and the manager.

Here's just one of my personal favorites !

Air Strikes ; Just call up the United States Government, tell them there's a populist uprising against an out of control despot who is torturing his people and committing atrocities ,and before you can shout EIE they will tell Cameron to move in. The RAF will strafe the managers dugout with tomahawk missiles and you will achieve regime change and clear out the dross on the bench.
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I'm as pissed off, as most gooners are, with what has happened tthe last few weeks and Wengers persistence with some of the drivel we watch week in week out ... But booing is not the way forward especially when were still in with a shout of winning the league!!!

Probably get slaughtered for this ... Oh well!!

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DB10GOONER wrote:I never agree with booing our own. No matter who they are. Not even the despicable diving cheating acting cunt that is Comedy Eboue. And I HATE that fucking cunt.

Why I don't agree with booing?

It's fucking childish. :oops:

It DOES NOT help the team.

It can make a shit player play worse.

It makes us look like spoilt brats.

Having said that, I won't condemn anyone that wants to boo. It is their right. I just personally think it looks and sounds pathetic.

Don't mind having a good yell at a few of them though! :lol:
I'd love to know what actual condemnation sounds like :lol:

I agree though 8)

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