Cus Geezer wrote: but from an arsenal point of view if our nearest club and historical rivals call them selfs **** army then arsenal fans are going to use the same word back at them
The fact is they called themselves that because originally opposing fans called them that first - shall we start calling black people niggers because a few gangster rappers use the term?
In fact that is not even a like for like scenerio because, for the umpteenth time, the vast majority of Spurs fans are NOT JEWISH, so it does not matter that they call themselves the ****.
but this is too much for it is not the clubs fault,, so why sue the club
Oh for fucks sake, suing the club "about right"??? what bollocks. The club can't be held responsible for modern culture, history and the way football fans think and behave so how can the club itself be sued
The club has the power over who it lets through its doors, so it is its fault if it fails to eject fans who are chanting racially offensive chants - as they are requried to do by law.
In fact, unlike the 1970s and 80s where thousands of people turned up at the gate with admission fee on the day and had no idea who they were today you can only get in if you have a membership of sorts. You cannot buy a ticket on the door, you have to purchase with a debit card - the club knows everything about a punter from their e-mail address, billing address, credit card number and exactly where they are positioned in the ground and CCTV footage. The club is even more culpable as they know exactly who comes through the door and are failing to use the sanction of revoking club membership and banning fans from their using such terms.
Well what a shitty big bruvver world we live in
As anyone who follows football physically rather than on Sky knows, it aint always perfect, wonderful and like the fuckin Waltons wiv a happy ending. The main point I was making was that why the fuck would these wankers sue the club? They're sposed to be Arsenal fans, season ticket holders no less so why would they seek to hurt the club they supposedly support for something that the club ultimately can't control regardless of all the big bruvver "we know who you are" shit.
To me it sounds like they are on a crusade and are out to make a name for themselves
Really - I personally think they'd rather watch a game of football without listening to people dress up racial chants as friendly banter between football fans than spend tonnes of cash on legal fees - after all legal aid is not that easily available for civil action. If what you've said has even a tiny ounce of truth then rather than threatening to sue they would already be suing for a remedy because they've already been wronged, therefore would be legally entitled to that remedy.
At the end of the day the club are not being sued for a large sum of cash, they are being given a wake up call - it's up to them to act on it.
and how would that help the so called "offended" apart from adding to their probably already considerable bank balance
Right and you've seen their bank balance have you?
No mate but as they're using lawyers to threaten the club etc blahdiddy then I guess they aint on job seekers allowance, sorry if my guess is wrong, just a hunch
I'm sure that they would'nt have felt all that intimidated complaining to the stewards in club level, for that is surely where they sit.
Doesn't say that anywhere in the article. Do elaborate on why you think they're club level members?
Erm.............well let's have a think here??? I'm entitled to my opinions and that's my educated guess. Oh sorry, I went to a 70s comprehensive school so possibly not all that "educated" and not good enough for todays modern "soccer" fan, do forgive me.
The sooner they fuck off back to watching rugger buggers or rowing at Henley
oh right because members of rugger clubs are socially conscious sensitive limp wristed guardian reading lefties who don't like industrial language and the toffs at Henley don't dig racism?
I was making the pont that there's a lot of recent, Wenger years, "invincibals season" etc newcomers here to watch Arsenal at the expense of people who've followed the club through all kinds of shit over the last 40 years or so (my time). Don't complain about lack of atmosphere and feel the need to wave scarves etc to get the crowd going when you exclude real fans at the expense of the club suer, rugger bugger types. Give me the guys who I stood on the terraces with in the 70s and 80s any time. Not all "gentlemen" by any means but we all had one thing in common and that did'nt include suing the club if we were offended by anyfing. I mean, you really should have tried the rubbery stuff in the pies and the watery beer we bought from the green hut at the back of the north bank, fuck me dead!!!!!! we could have sued the club for fuckin milllions LOLOLOLOLOLOL
and let the people who've stuck by this club through thick and thin for the last 40 odd years back in the better
Right, and those people of Jewish extraction who have followed Arsenal for 40 years through thick and thin - they're really not bothered about hearing chants about '****'?
Well let's see, why don't you ask them all and ask the jewish people who support the scum and also call themselves "****" as well. I used to call spuds fans **** before I even knew what the word meant so it really is'nt meant as any kind of insult to jewish people from me. I'm 49 years old and have spud supportiing mates who've called themselves that name since I first knew them in the 70s including genuine jewish ones.
In fact as a red member who has followed Arsenal for 23 of my 29 years and present at many a big game prior to the all seater era - including the last in front of the North Bank in 1992 against Southampton - I'm fucked off that the club allows people like that in every week only to chant such racist obscenities unchallenged.
Bring back real Arsenal fans and fuck off the prawn sandwich eating wankers with a huge bank balance, too much time on their hands and expensive, fancy lawyers.
What and only those who have a tolerance to anti-semetic chanting can be a 'real' Arsenal fan and not one of the prawn sandwich mob - sorry for not nodding in agreement at that one. Your references to social class and new and old football fans are totally off the point and have no relevance here at all.
No I mean people who've given a lot more for the club than spending the odd afternoon in club class or equivelent during the last few years. You know, people who've been preapred to spend long days and nights being shunted and shoved about on long train/coach journeys and risked being beaten to a pulp down the Old Kent Road on an away trip to Millwall. Did the suers do any of this? I doubt it and my references about fuckin anything are as valid as yours or anybody elses mate, as far as I I know we're all allowed a say here, who are you to be judge and jury about valid references?????
and were prime members in the ridiculous campaign urging our players to shoot once they entered the opposition half last season
What's nouveau football about that? Our players did have a reluctance to shoot last season and the number of goals scored by the like of Fabregas from distance is testament to the fact it was correct.
but we cannot blame them for everything
oh why not? It's a lot easier to have a convienient scapegoat - just ask Hitler.
look at the rascist abuse jens has got at away games for being German. so aparently were rascist!!!!
For the umpteenth time - TWO WRONGS.....
