Qatar World Cup 2022 - Heat and Corruption

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
Macca wrote:My Uncle Alan used to play for Enfield Town in the late 50's

Must have played in the same team as my dad then! :barscarf:

Doubt if your dad was a keeper spuddy :wink: :lol: :barscarf:

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The Daily Telegraph are turning up the heat on Qatar.

I really hope the tournament has a re-vote, the bribery was shocking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... andal.html

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I think it is going to be difficult for FIFA to resist the pressure to change this........but they will, I'm confident of that.

Since the award of the tournament was announced you can bet your life that billions has been agreed in different commercial deals across the region. If this gets cancelled there would be law suits flying all over the place. I think it could bring FIFA to it's knees and they won't allow that to happen, they're on too good a screw.

I think there'll be significant changes to the way future tournaments are awarded and a superficial clean up of FIFA (Nothing will change below the surface though), but little more.

I could be wrong but I can't see it being moved.

In reality this has only come to light because England didn't get awarded it. If we hadn't been in the bidding then none of this would have ever come to light. A little bit of sour grapes from us!

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Oh please all of this shite has been in the Public domain for a very long time but comes out 1 week b4 the start of a world cup and the so called "internal inquiry".

Either

Qatar will pay even more buckish to FIFA to maintain their games !
Or
Someone else has paid large Buckish to get the World cup away from the No.1 sponsor of world terrorism and war on the Shia Muslim communities worldwide !

My moneys on the Qatari's ,my watch was a gift ,it's normal !

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Herd wrote:Oh please all of this shite has been in the Public domain for a very long time but comes out 1 week b4 the start of a world cup and the so called "internal inquiry".

Either

Qatar will pay even more buckish to FIFA to maintain their games !
Or
Someone else has paid large Buckish to get the World cup away from the No.1 sponsor of world terrorism and war on the Shia Muslim communities worldwide !

My moneys on the Qatari's ,my watch was a gift ,it's normal !
I think you'll find they are the number two sponsor of wold terrorism, Herd. The Saudis are number one by a long shot. :x

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The Saudi's are in bed with the US and thus defacto Israel ,at least the Royal family are .
Other Saudi nationals aren't so aligned.Of course the Saudis back and pay for the export of wahhabibi-isim worldwide but that not the same thing ,although it correct to say they were the Saudi nationals were largely responsible for a plane crash or 2 .

Make no mistake the wannabee newly wedged Qatari's are causing mayhem in the Arab world to the extent that the Saudis UAE and Bahrain have removed their diplomatic envoys from Qatar over the states decision to back the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt and it's hawk like approach elsewhere however the western press is suppressing the levels of kaka that are flying right now as they want a united front to mask the fact that Qatar wants to kill all Syrians who are shia !

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It's an interesting dilemma for FIFA, with Qatari billions on one side and very concerned major sponsors on the other.

We need a catalyst to tip it. I'd love to see the Pl, Spanish, German and French FAs say they won't play in Qatar. The sponsors would go mad.

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Can't remember who she worked for but there was someone on SSN yesterday saying do not underestimate FIFA's ability to bury this in bureaucracy. They will undoubtedly do everything they possibly can to avoid having to out the corrupt bastards that make up the majority of the Executive Committee and having to re-vote.

Blatter shot himself in the foot being so quick to expose bin Hammam when he was going to challenge his leadership - that's coming back to bite him on the arse now as he can't exactly backtrack. Interestingly enough although Australia seemed main challengers and would really be a sensible option the bookies have got them at 8-1 to stage the tournament if it's taken off Qatar, USA at evens (due to convenience and relatively low scale of preparations required I guess).

The mismanagement of the bidding campaign from England was bad enough but what irked me was that they didn't have the balls to stand up during the campaign and blow the lid - it would have postponed a major process and channelled unprecedented focus on FIFA. Instead they waited until after they had lost and then were inevitably brushed aside as 'sour grapes'.

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When you look at what effect hosting the World Cup in 1994 had on the U.S. and how their national team and domestic league has done since, you can only imagine how great and beneficial it would have been to Australia to host it. FIFA went with the line of 'about time the WC was hosted in the middle east...well what about Oceana? There is far more potential for the game to prosper there than in Qatar where it is almost impossible to even play most of the year. We might as well have the next World Cup in Antarctica thinking along those lines!

As has been said, there's too much involved and at stake in terms of sponsors for it to be switched now but can only hope those responsible for this farce can't worm their way out (ie Blatter, Platini) and the bidding process is made completely transparent. It should have been us in 2018 and Oz in 2022!

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Kvltman wrote:When you look at what effect hosting the World Cup in 1994 had on the U.S. and how their national team and domestic league has done since, you can only imagine how great and beneficial it would have been to Australia to host it. FIFA went with the line of 'about time the WC was hosted in the middle east...well what about Oceana? There is far more potential for the game to prosper there than in Qatar where it is almost impossible to even play most of the year. We might as well have the next World Cup in Antarctica thinking along those lines!

As has been said, there's too much involved and at stake in terms of sponsors for it to be switched now but can only hope those responsible for this farce can't worm their way out (ie Blatter, Platini) and the bidding process is made completely transparent. It should have been us in 2018 and Oz in 2022!
The only reason I can think of not having it in Australia is that it is fairly difficult for pretty much everyone to get there.

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The decision to hold the World Cup there in the first place was greed driven, so hardly any surprise. I think it is destined to be the most obscene sporting event in history.

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gp543 wrote:
Kvltman wrote:When you look at what effect hosting the World Cup in 1994 had on the U.S. and how their national team and domestic league has done since, you can only imagine how great and beneficial it would have been to Australia to host it. FIFA went with the line of 'about time the WC was hosted in the middle east...well what about Oceana? There is far more potential for the game to prosper there than in Qatar where it is almost impossible to even play most of the year. We might as well have the next World Cup in Antarctica thinking along those lines!

As has been said, there's too much involved and at stake in terms of sponsors for it to be switched now but can only hope those responsible for this farce can't worm their way out (ie Blatter, Platini) and the bidding process is made completely transparent. It should have been us in 2018 and Oz in 2022!
The only reason I can think of not having it in Australia is that it is fairly difficult for pretty much everyone to get there.
Erm... you have air travel in the States, right? Y'know - aeroplanes? :lol: :wink:

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The US should never have been given the world cup on the basis they never qualify for the competition.
They only qualified for Italia 90 because of a corrupt FIFA deal whereby Mexico agreed to be lobbed out of the qualifying competition for fielding some ineligible players in and under 21 competition and even then they struggled badly.
I do see the point however of expanding the game and the US has been a nut that had not been cracked after the failures in the MLS .
Qatar are a bunch O'*word censored* and should never have been given it but money talks........!

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