As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Babatunde wrote:Tell you what ppl like Flash are spot on about Pep. Overrated, what he does is easy! Winning 12 trophies? Piece of piss. Question is, can he win successive 4th place trophies??
Wenger's rent boys often tell us what an impossible job AW has competing against these mega rich clubs (cos you see, that's the reason we get dicked on by QPR, Brum and 8-2). Pep has demolished Real over years - on the whole - despite Real being the world's richest club.
Can he fit Song and Diaby into a superteam though??
So easy being the first manager to make 5 consecutive CL semis eh?
Mind you, unlike Our Dear Leader, can he finish second in a group with Braga and Partizan, and get hammered 4-0 to a Milan team with a wage bill 25% lower than his teams?? Can he inherit a masterful back five and Dennis Bergkamp; then rebuild amazing teams that win nothing for 7 years? And can he rush past Go and collect 7 million in the process??
Nah. Pep is shit. Rijkaard inherited Xavi, Iniesta and Messi but was sacked for finishing 4th.
Mancini has more money than any manager in world football and a debt-riddled Manure will beat them to the league.
Chelski are loaded and have s ridiculous wage bill and funds, yet Newcastle are miles ahead of them.
Yep. Football is as simplistic as some simpletons here are claiming!
Example: a team with a wage bill of £125 million, should beat Birmingham, QPR, Wolves at home, and at the very least, have won 2-3 trophies over. 7 years. RIGHT??
Baba, it's probably a good post, but it would "scan better" (copyright IHH) without needlessly insulting your fellow forum members, even if it is your trademark.
It gives your well thought out posts a needlessly nasty edge that drowns out the rest of your post. In my opinion, anyway
Anyway, just be thankful there are "simpletons" on this forum. They give you the free hits so you can knock 'em out the park!
Lets see him knock this 1 out of the park for all us simpletons gooner
This is a wonderful post
Where are all the plebs who chastised me back in November, when I claimed Spuds would finish miles ahead of us?
Any cream with that humble pie?
Am breaking my arse laughing at that post.Who posted this i wonder
Step forward MR BABATUNDE
I don't think McDowell's going anywhere till you answer this one Baba ??
Don't know what gives me that impression
SteveO. MacDowell can carry on his supine obsession.
If I was to pull out a sample of all the comicallly retarded guff this intellectually defunct 'maestro' had come out with over the past year or so, there'd be enough pages to write War and Peace, and enough left over for him to wipe his anus with.
So he can carry on picking out selective quotes - also, interesting to note that he has chosen NOW to pull up that post, as if the season is finished and we are ahead of them. Arsenal can still finish behind Spuds. So pipe down and put your skirt back on Doris; stick to jostling with like-minded bookends...there's a good lass....
Red Gunner wrote:If he isn't a great manager, who is? Ferguson (Guardiola beat twice in European finals), Mourinho (Guardiola's El Clasico record against Mourinho is 5 wins, 4 draws, 2 defeats), Wenger (Guardiola knocked us out twice)? He's outdone them all.
Now, hang on. Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho have built teams.... Wenger and Fergie, especially.
Guradiola has clearly done a SUPERB job but he did have the tools to do it. Magic golden super tools! -
By the way, I think he could well be a fantastic manager. The way he's set Barca up tactically has worked a treat, and their workrate puts us to shame : TO SHAME!
I'm not arguing he's necessarily superior to Ferguson, Wenger or Mourinho; I'm arguing he's great manager because he has beaten all on more than once occasion. And if he isn't, neither are they. And about inheriting teams. Wenger inherited the back four, Ferguson struck gold with class of '92, and Mourinho... Well he inherited £££
Look at the ins and outs since Guardiola's reign began. Got rid of Ronaldinho and Deco straight away, and sold Eto'o after one season. Improved Barcelona immensely by signing Dani Alves. Promoted Busquets from Barcelona B. Bought Mascherano and converted him into a centre-back. Tried to add a new dimension (plan B: long ball perhaps?) to Barcelona by signing Ibrahimovic, but didn't work out though. He's signed Pique, Villa, Alexis, Cesc as well. He also converted Messi from a right forward to a false nine. And since Guardiola, Xavi and Iniesta have moved onto the next level. Do we look at them two nowadays, the same way we looked at them before 2008?
This proves that Guardiola hasn't lived off previous success. He's also not afraid to tinker. Guardiola is a tactical innovator. This season he's played with three at the back. He's played Busquets (a midfielder) as a sweeper in a back three, Fabregas as a centre-forward, Dani Alves as a right-winger and most importantly he's deployed Messi as a revolutionary false nine. Read those articles:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:give it up mac, he's a joke account , same person who called eduardo average, racially abused BG and then sent out hate filled pm's to me.
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:give it up mac, he's a joke account , same person who called eduardo average, racially abused BG and then sent out hate filled pm's to me.
Why doesnt the above surprise me
any more pms and let us know.
LOL
Do you want to invent stories Henrietta? Because I can easily use an evidence-based argument as to why I sent you PMs calling you out. That's because, you sent me unsolicited messages, on a Friday night.
If you want to to do that sort of thing, try match.com, or e-Harmony.
When I get messages with the intellectual content of a 5 year old on a Friday night writing
'YOU DISSED MY HOMEBOYZ EDUARDO U NOBENDZ 'OW DAREZ U, EDUARDO IZ DA BESTEST STRIKERZ IN BOSNIAN HISTORYS INNIT E COULDA PLAYED 4 BRAZIL BUT HE CHOZE 2 PLAY FOR CROATIA INSTED BLAD SINZ CROATIA BEEN A MASSIVE BOOYA COUNTRIES 4 DA PAST 52 YEARZ U GET ME SINCE DA BALKANS WAR FINISHED IN 1945'
Away with you. Hearing you crying because I failed to respond to your unsolicited messages in a manner convenient to you is hilarious. Brilliant! Go cry to the Mods girl, and I shall show them the evidence of the sort of tripe you sent over first.
Now go back to the books those GCSEs won't pass themselve...
f**k him, leave him where he is, tactically barca were pitiful against Chelsea, 45 mins against 10 men missing their two
first choice centre backs and all he could "mastermind" was endless tippy tappy shit over and back in front of the area. I suppose a bit of long ball humping to a target man is a bit beneath the "best club side in the world"
mcdowell42 wrote:heres another babatunde post from a while back
Once everyone has finished jizzing in their undies because Thierry scores against Championship Leeds...those interested in Facts will note that Spuds are now joint second in the league. That's 2nd.
Spuds have won more games, Spuds have scored more goals and they have also conceded less goals. Oh and they have more points. Oh and their wage bill is over 35% lower than Arsenal's!
So despite Gazidis and the AKB muppets going on about "self sustainability", Daniel Levy and Spuds are running a superior football team on far less resources. Oh and their fans pay less money, to watch better players. Oh and their manager earns less than half of what our clown does. Oh and they spent just £5 mil this summer on players, not £50mil.
Still. I'll look forward to Kiwomya, MacDowell and the deluded Amish sheep brigade to tell us how "our quality will shine through".
Heh
You sensitive soul !
I'll remember that next time you're giving me shit about Abou
No, all jokes aside I like Baba, but he should just come out now (not in a King Jayson way ) and say he went overboard about the Spuds. I'll admit it too - I didn't imagine for a minute that we would catch them and you can probably find posts from me on here to that effect (although not quite so barbed !)
Just one final point though mate - we ain't home and dry yet, and much as I fucking hope not, I wouldn't be surprised if they closed the gap to 3 points with a game in hand this weekend
If everybody did that, it would be a much less stressful place
Rosicky's Right Boot wrote:Arsenal are essentially Barcelona lite and so whilst I do see him being interested in the job, I hope Le Prof will still be in charge when his break from football ends.
Resident Plastic wrote:Everyone seems to have forgotten that he inherited the best team in world football. He was tactically inept the other night too, i really do not see why people assume he's a great manager.
What? Not a great manager? 2 cl, 3 consecutive league titles.
Red Gunner wrote:If he isn't a great manager, who is? Ferguson (Guardiola beat twice in European finals), Mourinho (Guardiola's El Clasico record against Mourinho is 5 wins, 4 draws, 2 defeats), Wenger (Guardiola knocked us out twice)? He's outdone them all.
Now, hang on. Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho have built teams.... Wenger and Fergie, especially.
Guradiola has clearly done a SUPERB job but he did have the tools to do it. Magic golden super tools! -
By the way, I think he could well be a fantastic manager. The way he's set Barca up tactically has worked a treat, and their workrate puts us to shame : TO SHAME!
I'm not arguing he's necessarily superior to Ferguson, Wenger or Mourinho; I'm arguing he's great manager because he has beaten all on more than once occasion. And if he isn't, neither are they. And about inheriting teams. Wenger inherited the back four, Ferguson struck gold with class of '92, and Mourinho... Well he inherited £££
Look at the ins and outs since Guardiola's reign began. Got rid of Ronaldinho and Deco straight away, and sold Eto'o after one season. Improved Barcelona immensely by signing Dani Alves. Promoted Busquets from Barcelona B. Bought Mascherano and converted him into a centre-back. Tried to add a new dimension (plan B: long ball perhaps?) to Barcelona by signing Ibrahimovic, but didn't work out though. He's signed Pique, Villa, Alexis, Cesc as well. He also converted Messi from a right forward to a false nine. And since Guardiola, Xavi and Iniesta have moved onto the next level. Do we look at them two nowadays, the same way we looked at them before 2008?
This proves that Guardiola hasn't lived off previous success. He's also not afraid to tinker. Guardiola is a tactical innovator. This season he's played with three at the back. He's played Busquets (a midfielder) as a sweeper in a back three, Fabregas as a centre-forward, Dani Alves as a right-winger and most importantly he's deployed Messi as a revolutionary false nine. Read those articles:
A year off for Guardiola?
So he will be ready to manage again from 2013 - 2014.
Which is a year before Wenger's contract is up.
That year could prevent Guardiola managing us.
But it could well see him manage Man Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool or Spurs or Man City.
Man Utd - Ferguson will go when he is good and ready. It could be anytime now, or anytime in the next 10 years.
Any manager in the world will be interested in the job.
Chelsea - Could be a win=win situation for them. One the strength of Di Matteo's run so far, their board could justify offering him the manager's job.
If he brings in silverware next season, they keep him on.
If he does not, they go for Guardiola.
If Guardiola has a liking for their cash, and for living in London, he will go there.
It will tie in with the opportunity to rebuild as Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cole etc reach the final stage of their top flight careers.
Spurs - He would be given time. But would he have the cash, especially with their stadium move? And managing during a stadium move could be off putting.
Man City - Never underestimate the lure of a huge budget. Mancini will likely get another year, but failure to bring home the title will see a vacancy there after next season. Plus they have a new training ground and have done their stadium move.
Liverpool - Dalglish's status as a legend as a player will get him another year in the hot seat. But I think not two years if he continues to have poor league form. So that ties in nicely with summer of 2013, and new owners who want success on the pitch.
Guardiola might well be given more time there than at Chelsea, and be attracted to the intriguing task of re establishing a "Sleeping Giant" of English football.
But managing them in the middle of a stadium move might not be a lure.
I think Guardiola would also be very interested in the Arsenal job were it available.
A chance to live in London.
Great training centre.
Superb pitch.
Good core of young players.
A style that is roughly akin to Barcelona's.
If the money is available he can add to that with the much needed quality purchases we have failed to make in any number for six seasons.
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