As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
highburyJD wrote:Matt Lucas (gay Gooner comedian) phoned in 5Live and said anybody insulted by "we can see you holding hands" is over sensitive
One of the nuttiest, old school Burnley suicide squad I know is queer (his teminology).
I have drinking mates that are mad W.Ham, Chelsea, Charlton and Palace supporters, and are gay.
Scraps we had down the years (80's and 90's), I couldn't choose better mates to have fighting in my corner.
anyone seen the movie/read the comic 300?
There really was a group called "the 300".
Spartan soldiers who fought to the death at Thermopylae - they were 150 couples.
Some of the very hardest warriors in history.
Spartan soldiers who fought to the death at Thermopylae - they were 150 couples.
Where did that come from?
Leonidas was married and had a son I believe? (Actually in the film it was Lena Headley who is gorgeous)!
Also, the 300 that fought at Thermopylae were actually 5000 or more including allies and they fought side by side. It was only the last battle that the Spartans stood almost alone, but even then they had allies that wanted to stay and fight, and they all died.
highburyJD wrote:anyone seen the movie/read the comic 300?
There really was a group called "the 300".
Spartan soldiers who fought to the death at Thermopylae - they were 150 couples. Some of the very hardest warriors in history.
Sadly you are imposing modern Christian morality constructs on Ancient Greece. Homosexual contact was very normal, but usually between an adult male and teenage boy. It was part of helping them to grow up. Sparta took this a stage further and took away all healthy males (unhealthy were killed) to train as soldiers. They would have little or no female contact until adults. Homosexual activity was normal and encouraged to create bonds between the fighting men, it is however quite unusual for adult males to form "couples".
Marriage was basically a business deal with, for example, a poor nobleman marrying a rich merchant's daughter. One family gains money, the other status. It was also of course for producing children.
And before anyone asks I did a degree in Ancient History.
Chippy wrote:Sadly you are imposing modern Christian morality constructs on Ancient Greece. Homosexual contact was very normal, but usually between an adult male and teenage boy. It was part of helping them to grow up. Sparta took this a stage further and took away all healthy males (unhealthy were killed) to train as soldiers. They would have little or no female contact until adults. Homosexual activity was normal and encouraged to create bonds between the fighting men, it is however quite unusual for adult males to form "couples".
Marriage was basically a business deal with, for example, a poor nobleman marrying a rich merchant's daughter. One family gains money, the other status. It was also of course for producing children.
And before anyone asks I did a degree in Ancient History.
Given the demographics of British society nowadays. How is it that many Asian footballers (Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian origin) do not constitute a rising percentage of players representing England? Having being born in UK.
I recall, when Viv Anderson became the first black player to represent England. There have been just 73 black players, in all, to play for their country, England, to date.
I reckon that Arsenal have had more Irish lads playing for us, than England have had Asian players.
Top Londoner wrote:Given the demographics of British society nowadays. How is it that many Asian footballers (Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian origin) do not constitute a rising percentage of players representing England? Having being born in UK.
I recall, when Viv Anderson became the first black player to represent England. There have been just 73 black players, in all, to play for their country, England, to date.
I reckon that Arsenal have had more Irish lads playing for us, than England have had Asian players.
This is an interesting point. My son's team has one Asian lad and we went up to 2 at one stage. Both pretty decent players. We have a pretty large Asian community in Woking so you'd expect more. Sadly I think it's a bit to do with drinking/family culture. All the dads in our team socialise (by drinking) apart from this lad. It's only because he loves playing that they keep going. Sadly again they've just formed an Asian team to take part in Leagues, so it looks like they might be separate but it might lead to some players moving up.
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:brighton fans apparently planning on travelling to elland road (last match of the season) dressed as members of the village people
more tea vicar?
Sparta took this a stage further and took away all healthy males (unhealthy were killed) to train as soldiers. They would have little or no female contact until adults. Homosexual activity was normal and encouraged to create bonds between the fighting men, it is however quite unusual for adult males to form "couples".
