A Post-Wenger World

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Re: A Post-Wenger World

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robbo10 wrote:Diaby player-manager..... :rubchin:
Shoulder injury while throwing a water bottle to the ground 8)

I do agree with all names listed above but I would like Klopp most. :barscarf:
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g88ner wrote:
robbo10 wrote:Diaby player-manager..... :rubchin:
Well, he probably is our longest serving player? :rubchin: :shock:
"Player" :lol: :coffeespit:

Playa maybe, but he hasn't been a player since that nice Mr Smith remodelled his leg. :cussing:

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Re: A Post-Wenger World

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SteveO 35 wrote:I think whoever gets the job will be a fucking 'yes' man, handpicked by Wenger, and therefore the future without Wenger scares me more than the future with him.....amazing but true. I've hated Gazidis since the day he set foot in the place - a thinly veneered marketeer who hasn't got the first fucking clue about how to run a modern day football club. The whole team around him are two steps behind the field in everything they do from commercial deals, to pulling off transfers on a regular basis. The choice of manager will be one of the most painful in Arsenal history....honestly, I don't think people realise just how much of a fuck up is about to happen with these useless wankers running the club

Still, as long as the property developments come good who cares eh ?

Kroenke - sell up, fuck off and take Gazidis and his entire management team with him

Then I can get excited about a post Wenger world
Pessimism for pessimism's sake? Load of waffle mate.

Gazidis may be clueless but it doesn't take a bloody genius to identify the likes of Klopp and Simeone. What I'm truly scared about is the prospect of Wenger handpicking his successor and us ending up with one of his disciples, oh the horror.

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Re: A Post-Wenger World

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1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:I think whoever gets the job will be a fucking 'yes' man, handpicked by Wenger, and therefore the future without Wenger scares me more than the future with him.....amazing but true. I've hated Gazidis since the day he set foot in the place - a thinly veneered marketeer who hasn't got the first fucking clue about how to run a modern day football club. The whole team around him are two steps behind the field in everything they do from commercial deals, to pulling off transfers on a regular basis. The choice of manager will be one of the most painful in Arsenal history....honestly, I don't think people realise just how much of a fuck up is about to happen with these useless wankers running the club

Still, as long as the property developments come good who cares eh ?

Kroenke - sell up, fuck off and take Gazidis and his entire management team with him

Then I can get excited about a post Wenger world
Pessimism for pessimism's sake? Load of waffle mate.

Gazidis may be clueless but it doesn't take a bloody genius to identify the likes of Klopp and Simeone. What I'm truly scared about is the prospect of Wenger handpicking his successor and us ending up with one of his disciples, oh the horror.
That was SteveO's point mate.

It may well be pessimism for the sake of it... and it may be waffle... but you're agreeing with him, aren't you?! :lol:

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:I am going to come across as a Wengerite but getting rid off the man alone wont restore the club to greatness. The whole staff needs a turnover.
In 1986 the club was dying after years of mismanagement by Neill and Howe.If you had said we would have won two titles one which we lost just one game the men in white coats would have taken you away in a straight jacket.A good manager can make a big difference

We need a manager who doesnt indoctrinate the players into thinking 4th is a trophy.A manager who has some tactics.A manager who will not be afraid to have a clearout.Do you think Graham would have put up with Diaby Bendtner Frimpong Santos and Giroud .A manager who will sack all the medical team.

My choice would be Klopp but he will be Man Utd's manager next season

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g88ner wrote:
1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:I think whoever gets the job will be a fucking 'yes' man, handpicked by Wenger, and therefore the future without Wenger scares me more than the future with him.....amazing but true. I've hated Gazidis since the day he set foot in the place - a thinly veneered marketeer who hasn't got the first fucking clue about how to run a modern day football club. The whole team around him are two steps behind the field in everything they do from commercial deals, to pulling off transfers on a regular basis. The choice of manager will be one of the most painful in Arsenal history....honestly, I don't think people realise just how much of a fuck up is about to happen with these useless wankers running the club

Still, as long as the property developments come good who cares eh ?

Kroenke - sell up, fuck off and take Gazidis and his entire management team with him

Then I can get excited about a post Wenger world
Pessimism for pessimism's sake? Load of waffle mate.

Gazidis may be clueless but it doesn't take a bloody genius to identify the likes of Klopp and Simeone. What I'm truly scared about is the prospect of Wenger handpicking his successor and us ending up with one of his disciples, oh the horror.
That was SteveO's point mate.

It may well be pessimism for the sake of it... and it may be waffle... but you're agreeing with him, aren't you?! :lol:
Exactly, thanks for pointing out the obvious

It seems our resident Piers Morgan clone now trusts Gazidis to make the right call ! Amazing. I wouldn't trust him ordering the paperclips

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g88ner wrote:
1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:I think whoever gets the job will be a fucking 'yes' man, handpicked by Wenger, and therefore the future without Wenger scares me more than the future with him.....amazing but true. I've hated Gazidis since the day he set foot in the place - a thinly veneered marketeer who hasn't got the first fucking clue about how to run a modern day football club. The whole team around him are two steps behind the field in everything they do from commercial deals, to pulling off transfers on a regular basis. The choice of manager will be one of the most painful in Arsenal history....honestly, I don't think people realise just how much of a fuck up is about to happen with these useless wankers running the club

Still, as long as the property developments come good who cares eh ?

Kroenke - sell up, fuck off and take Gazidis and his entire management team with him

Then I can get excited about a post Wenger world
Pessimism for pessimism's sake? Load of waffle mate.
Gazidis may be clueless but it doesn't take a bloody genius to identify the likes of Klopp and Simeone. What I'm truly scared about is the prospect of Wenger handpicking his successor and us ending up with one of his disciples, oh the horror.
That was SteveO's point mate.

It may well be pessimism for the sake of it... and it may be waffle... but you're agreeing with him, aren't you?! :lol:
You're right. I read his points wrong lol, sorry SteveO. :oops: :lol:

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Right now I would prefer wenker to resign and appoint his own successor than to stay for another month :(

I think those that would prefer wenker to stay rather than the other option are missing the point - for me it is a win win situation because if wenker's replacement is good then we will improve but if he is shit then he wont be allowed any time to get better and he will be run out of the club. If that happens the pro wenker sheep will be told in no uncertain terms that this failed appointment is wenger's failed appointment and maybe then we will finally get rid of the c*nt out of the club for good :evil:

In an ideal world either the psg or French national team managers jobs will become available in the summer - we don't need the guy hanging around like a bad smell so it might take another challenge to get him out of our club altogether

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SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:I think whoever gets the job will be a fucking 'yes' man, handpicked by Wenger, and therefore the future without Wenger scares me more than the future with him.....amazing but true. I've hated Gazidis since the day he set foot in the place - a thinly veneered marketeer who hasn't got the first fucking clue about how to run a modern day football club. The whole team around him are two steps behind the field in everything they do from commercial deals, to pulling off transfers on a regular basis. The choice of manager will be one of the most painful in Arsenal history....honestly, I don't think people realise just how much of a fuck up is about to happen with these useless wankers running the club

Still, as long as the property developments come good who cares eh ?

Kroenke - sell up, fuck off and take Gazidis and his entire management team with him

Then I can get excited about a post Wenger world
Pessimism for pessimism's sake? Load of waffle mate.

Gazidis may be clueless but it doesn't take a bloody genius to identify the likes of Klopp and Simeone. What I'm truly scared about is the prospect of Wenger handpicking his successor and us ending up with one of his disciples, oh the horror.
That was SteveO's point mate.

It may well be pessimism for the sake of it... and it may be waffle... but you're agreeing with him, aren't you?! :lol:
Exactly, thanks for pointing out the obvious

It seems our resident Piers Morgan clone now trusts Gazidis to make the right call ! Amazing. I wouldn't trust him ordering the paperclips
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Klopp or DeBoer are my preferred choices. But what about Lowe?

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storrmin571 wrote:Klopp or DeBoer are my preferred choices. But what about Lowe?

I suggested him a couple of weeks ago - contract up in the summer but if we are to keep ozil and if we want to keep podolski then a german manager might be the way to go. He has his german team looking really impressive (good players at his disposal I know but not as good as ours :wink: ) and they will be amongst the favourites for world cup this summer

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I have been advoacating a combo of Marco Van Basten as Head coach and Dennis to back him up and sucseed as the dream team for years and I havent changed .
I am very wary of the the D'Boors as it's always about them .
Marco is not an ego maniac and knows his eggs ,as does Dennis .

I want old school values, hard work,REAL developement and dedication towards a Goal not endless treading water
overpaid clowns and a lack of management .
I dont want anyone from the european supercoach merry go round ,nor do I want anyone from the premiership .

I can wait for years for silverware as long as I see the effort and real progression from a solid base which is something we have lacked since 2006 .
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Herd wrote:I have been advoacating a combo of Marco Van Basten as Head coach and Dennis to back him up and sucseed as the dream team for years and I havent changed .
I am very wary of the the D'Boors as it's always about them .
Marco is not an ego maniac and knows his eggs ,as does Dennis .

I want old school values, hard work,REAL developement and dedication towards a Goal .
I dont want anyone from the european supercoach merry go round ,nor do I want anyone from the premiership .

I can wait for years for silverware as long as I see the effort and real progression from a solid base which is something we have lacked since 2006 .


In that regard klopp and simeone are streets ahead of the rest - klopp has shown a willingness to work not just for the short term and will build us back up, whilst simeone is all about effort, passion and dedication 8) If I was told right now that the next Arsenal manager would not be a success and would be gone within two years then I would want simeone to be that guy - I am not expecting the next manager coming in to be the mutts nuts and all conquering but I would like him to instill some real fight into the players and be able to drill them tactically too and simeone is that guy 8)

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Augie ,Im not completely against these people,they are quality ,but like the old school gooner I am, I like those I know and trust .

With the fan base as it is I can see an AKB backlash against anyone who doesnt have some background with us who doesnt bring instant silverware .

Aint saying you are wrong just that how I feel ,who knows what the future holds ?

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donaldo wrote:
spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:I am going to come across as a Wengerite but getting rid off the man alone wont restore the club to greatness. The whole staff needs a turnover.
In 1986 the club was dying after years of mismanagement by Neill and Howe.If you had said we would have won two titles one which we lost just one game the men in white coats would have taken you away in a straight jacket.A good manager can make a big difference

We need a manager who doesnt indoctrinate the players into thinking 4th is a trophy.A manager who has some tactics.A manager who will not be afraid to have a clearout.Do you think Graham would have put up with Diaby Bendtner Frimpong Santos and Giroud .A manager who will sack all the medical team.

My choice would be Klopp but he will be Man Utd's manager next season
TBH Don (and I'm a GG fan) he well might have. Let's not forget McGolderick, Hillier, Selley, Jenson, Lyderson and the late signings of Kiwomya and Soul Glow Helder.

Obviously he wouldn't pay them as much though... :D :wink:

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