As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Despite all of these factors, the truth is that year after year Arsenal’s cash balance has steadily risen: May 2007 £74 million, May 2008 £93 million, May 2009 £100 million, May 2010 £128 million, May 2011 £160 million, May 2012 £154 million, May 2013 £153 million, May 2014 £208 million and May 2015 £228 million.
In other words, there is substantial money available to spend. It’s clearly not as much as the £228 million in the books, but we can say with some conviction that there would be enough available in the January transfer window to safely cover some of the glaring weaknesses in the squad: let’s say £70-80 million (with the usual caveats).
Despite all of these factors, the truth is that year after year Arsenal’s cash balance has steadily risen: May 2007 £74 million, May 2008 £93 million, May 2009 £100 million, May 2010 £128 million, May 2011 £160 million, May 2012 £154 million, May 2013 £153 million, May 2014 £208 million and May 2015 £228 million.
In other words, there is substantial money available to spend. It’s clearly not as much as the £228 million in the books, but we can say with some conviction that there would be enough available in the January transfer window to safely cover some of the glaring weaknesses in the squad: let’s say £70-80 million (with the usual caveats).
The Swiss Ramble and Alex Fynn have been revealing the truth in numbers for more or less the last 10 years. Unfortunately, actual evidence is not enough to convince some people who believe that we have been living off bread and cheese all this time.
rodders999 wrote:Well at least someone gets to have a bit of enjoyment from the 196 million slowly depreciating in the bank. I reckon he'll treat himself to a new syrup and a nose full of coke snorted off a prostitute's fanny.
Is there actually anyone on here who genuinely believes competing for trophies is on our priority list? I've read quite a few comments from season ticket holders on here along the lines of "I go because I love the Arsenal, not Wenger/Kroenke" etc.... as an ex-season ticket holder I sympathise, but the Arsenal we knew and loved is long gone - that £1.5K you pay every year is simply an annual 'subscription' to another Kroenke Sports Enterprises franchise, the same way people shell out £70 a month for Sky. Whether you like it or not, you're funding Le Gimp's £8mil a year for doing jack shit, the champagne and caviar upstairs, and mansions/luxury cars for dogshite like Walcott and Giroud. These financial results are simply more proof (as if we needed any more) that we're simply a well-oiled money-making machine that serves to make a bunch of rich yanks even richer. As I saw another poster mention - tell them to stick their season tickets up their arseholes and the Kroenke business model collapses.
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postmanPat91 wrote:Is there actually anyone on here who genuinely believes competing for trophies is on our priority list? I've read quite a few comments from season ticket holders on here along the lines of "I go because I love the Arsenal, not Wenger/Kroenke" etc.... as an ex-season ticket holder I sympathise, but the Arsenal we knew and loved is long gone - that £1.5K you pay every year is simply an annual 'subscription' to another Kroenke Sports Enterprises franchise, the same way people shell out £70 a month for Sky. Whether you like it or not, you're funding Le Gimp's £8 mil a year for doing jack shit, the champagne and caviar upstairs, and mansions/luxury cars for shite like Walcott and Giroud. These financial results are simply more proof (as if we needed any more) that we're simply a well-oiled money-making machine that serves to make a bunch of rich yanks even richer. As I saw another poster mention - tell them to stick their season tickets up their arseholes and the Kroenke business model collapses.
Great post. I have been saying this on here for at least 2 years.
the reason nothing changes at Arsenal is because the season ticket holders "subscribe" each summer.
i find it laughable when season ticket holders say they dont support Wenger/Kroenke - YES YOU DO !! BY "SUBSCRIBING" YOU ARE THEIR BIGGEST SUPPORTERS. You keep Wenger in a job. If 2 years ago there had been a mass non renewal of season tickets then there is no way that Wenger would have had his contract renewed.
postmanPat91 wrote:Is there actually anyone on here who genuinely believes competing for trophies is on our priority list? I've read quite a few comments from season ticket holders on here along the lines of "I go because I love the Arsenal, not Wenger/Kroenke" etc.... as an ex-season ticket holder I sympathise, but the Arsenal we knew and loved is long gone - that £1.5K you pay every year is simply an annual 'subscription' to another Kroenke Sports Enterprises franchise, the same way people shell out £70 a month for Sky. Whether you like it or not, you're funding Le Gimp's £8 mil a year for doing jack shit, the champagne and caviar upstairs, and mansions/luxury cars for shite like Walcott and Giroud. These financial results are simply more proof (as if we needed any more) that we're simply a well-oiled money-making machine that serves to make a bunch of rich yanks even richer. As I saw another poster mention - tell them to stick their season tickets up their arseholes and the Kroenke business model collapses.
Great post. I have been saying this on here for at least 2 years.
the reason nothing changes at Arsenal is because the season ticket holders "subscribe" each summer.
i find it laughable when season ticket holders say they dont support Wenger/Kroenke - YES YOU DO !! BY "SUBSCRIBING" YOU ARE THEIR BIGGEST SUPPORTERS. You keep Wenger in a job. If 2 years ago there had been a mass non renewal of season tickets then there is no way that Wenger would have had his contract renewed.
Exactly - I sympathise with season ticket holders, I really do... but it's not The Arsenal anymore, it's an entertainment franchise
Arsenal overstated their Emirates Stadium attendances by up to 5,184 fans per game last season, new figures uncovered by Sportsmail can reveal.
The Gunners boast sell-out crowds for almost every game but there have often been questions about empty seats spotted on television during their Barclays Premier League matches.
And now data released by the Metropolitan Police under Freedom of Information laws show their numbers were overcooked by 21,953 people over the course of last season.
Arsenal overstated their Emirates Stadium attendances by up to 5,184 fans per game last season
The Gunners boast sell-out figures for almost every game but there have been questions about empty seats
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The Gunners boast sell-out figures for almost every game but there have been questions about empty seats
Arsenal publish their attendance numbers based on tickets sold, rather than the actual number of people turning up for matches, meaning season ticket holders count even if they stay at home.
But against Sunderland and Swansea City last year there were more than 5,000 fewer fans present than the club stated, further detracting from the often-derided atmosphere at the 60,338-capacity Emirates.
Games against Liverpool and West Brom also saw attendance figures vary by over 3,000 people after fans seemingly didn’t turn up for tickets – costing upwards from £64 - they had already bought.
An Arsenal spokesman said: ‘We are clear in all our communication that the attendance figures we announce reflect the number of tickets sold. This is in line with most sports stadia.
‘As a club, we want a full stadium and work hard to ensure this happens through our Ticket Transfer and Ticket Exchange services.
'This allows fans who have tickets but can't get to games to offer them to other supporters. Last season approximately 70,000 tickets were exchanged through this system.’
Arsenal Supporters’ Trust published the results of voting at their Annual General Meeting on Tuesday, with their membership offering the club solutions to the empty seats problem.
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The Arsenal faithful looked to be in fine voice during their side's impressive 3-0 win over Manchester United
Of those polled, 73 per cent said they would be more likely to use the club’s ticket exchange services if it had a smartphone and tablet app and worked close to kick-off.
Supporters only get refunds on tickets they sell on at the end of the season, and 58 per cent said a more immediate pay-out and the opportunity to sell at below face value would encourage them to use the system more. 664 people participated in the voting.
The problem of no-shows is not just a problem at Arsenal, either, with figures from Manchester United and other top-flight clubs displaying similar issues in the past.
The figures for Arsenal matches come out amid growing anger about a perceived lack of value-for-money for football matches in England’s top flight.
Fans across the country protested against excessively high ticket prices last weekend, with Arsenal offering some of the Premier League’s most expensive tickets.
Football Supporters' Federation campaigners demonstrate outside the meeting of Premier League chairmen
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Football Supporters' Federation campaigners demonstrate outside the meeting of Premier League chairmen
Supporters want prices for those who follow their team away from home dropped to a standard price of £20, as part of the Football Supporters’ Federation’s ‘Twenty’s Plenty’ campaign.
Banners were raised at grounds around the country, including the Emirates, in a bid to convince football’s money men to make the game more affordable to watch.
Edited by Chippy so you don't have to click through to the Daily Fail.
Gunner Rob wrote:I will defend the club on this one - why shouldn't they publish attendances according to tickets sold?
if people don't show up for a game yet have bought a ticket then that is up to them.
Attendance n. the number of people present at a particular place or event.
If they want to use tickets sold that should be the announcement at the ground.
Exactly. Attendance means just that.
I remember someone at the club (might have been Gazidis) justifying using the tickets sold figure because that's what the tax man will look at. But the taxman is hardly going to base his calculations on what the stadium announcer said over the tannoy halfway through the 2nd half is he? He will have actual figures to work with.
Just another in a long list of examples where Arsenal cant even be honest about something straightforward and have to put spin on it. Like the invaluable £6m worth of advisory fees they've paid for
it was made quite clear many years back I think by Keith Edelman or Danny Fiszman that it was the clubs policy. This story is just another "there's nothing to talk about one" dug up to fill column inches.
