As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
armchair wrote:Am I in the minority thinking that was a nailed on 100% pen?
BBC crew reckon it wasnt
Yep I reckon you are ! The bloke was looking away and obviously trying to put his arm out on to the defender and accidentally knocked the ball
If he was blocking the defender with his arm and hit the ball away then its still a pen. I reckon he hit it deliberately as he was looking straight at it when he touched it. So a pen on two counts
armchair wrote:Am I in the minority thinking that was a nailed on 100% pen?
BBC crew reckon it wasnt
Yep I reckon you are ! The bloke was looking away and obviously trying to put his arm out on to the defender and accidentally knocked the ball
If he was blocking the defender with his arm and hit the ball away then its still a pen. I reckon he hit it deliberately as he was looking straight at it when he touched it. So a pen on two counts
No way a penalty, cheating scum they was out of it
armchair wrote:Am I in the minority thinking that was a nailed on 100% pen?
BBC crew reckon it wasnt
Yep I reckon you are ! The bloke was looking away and obviously trying to put his arm out on to the defender and accidentally knocked the ball
If he was blocking the defender with his arm and hit the ball away then its still a pen. I reckon he hit it deliberately as he was looking straight at it when he touched it. So a pen on two counts
Coz so many penalties are given for an arm on the shoulder ! You're technically right but we'd see quite a few pens every week from a defender shielding the ball
northbank123 wrote:
Funnily I've not heard anybody complaining about us not signing Martial in the last few months
Nor Schweinsteiger. Massive ask really to start in PL football at his time of life TBF, is he even slower than BFG .... Rather glad Augie didnt have the AFC chequebook the day they signing him
Wind in your neck there buddy cos I hadn't a Scooby doo who the kid was when they signed him so I def didn't advocate buying him In fact I was one of those questioning the guy when he went 2 months without scoring for them
The handball rule is one where referees need to apply common sense. The actual law on handballs require them to be deliberate. The FA (in their guidance to referees) have seen the need to interpret this as including where the arms are in an unnatural position, which is sensible.
With this incident, it wasn't deliberate and his arms weren't in an unnatural position. Applying common sense, had Danny Rose been flying onto that ball or about to shoot or whatever I could accept a penalty being given as it would have given the defender a huge advantage. But it was a bouncing ball which Rose was struggling to get under control anyway and wasn't in a particularly threatening position for - giving a penalty for an innocent act there is so disproportionate. You often see incidents where a defender all on his own in the box has miscontrolled or sliced an attempted clearance and it has hit his own hand, and I've never seen a penalty given in those circumstances because again it would be so disproportionate for a completely innocent act which has not really deprived the other side.
The reality is the referee couldn't possibly have seen the handball given that at least one player was completely blocking his view. He was guessing and I dare say it's not one that would have been given at the other end.
Not sure why Leicester have rested the big guns for this. Despite their league heroics so far this season the FA cup is their only realistic chance of a trophy and they turn their hole to it....most likely in the quest for the VT. The game is fucked!
rodders999 wrote:Not sure why Leicester have rested the big guns for this. Despite their league heroics so far this season the FA cup is their only realistic chance of a trophy and they turn their hole to it....most likely in the quest for the VT. The game is fucked!
Look at teams who have reached the final of (and won) the FA Cup in the past few years.
The competition is eminently winnable for them and it's sad to see.
rodders999 wrote:Not sure why Leicester have rested the big guns for this. Despite their league heroics so far this season the FA cup is their only realistic chance of a trophy and they turn their hole to it....most likely in the quest for the VT. The game is fucked!
Resting Vardy, till 70 + mins and Mhyrez too seems very bizzare, in a game they could have won.
Winners away at Colchester is a virtual bye to round 5 as they are dogshit.
rodders999 wrote:Not sure why Leicester have rested the big guns for this. Despite their league heroics so far this season the FA cup is their only realistic chance of a trophy and they turn their hole to it....most likely in the quest for the VT. The game is fucked!
We are all taken for mugs. Managers come out with statements saying the reason they have made so many changes for the Cup game is that they have a squad of 25 and any team they put out should be good enough to win. Really, so why don't you make those amount of changes for the league games then
Surely if you did a straw poll of Leicester fans 99% of them would rather win the FA Cup than finish fourth? Please tell me that would be the result??!!
rodders999 wrote:Surely if you did a straw poll of Leicester fans 99% of them would rather win the FA Cup than finish fourth? Please tell me that would be the result??!!
Probably to do with pre agreed targets set prior to season start, all Bonus probably aligned
I'm pretty sure most would vote for the VT. They had 2, 1 match outings in the UEFA nearly 20 years ago. I think their fans would like the possibility of going somewhere like Paris, Barca, Munich. Plus their best ever league finish was second in 1929, so they would think they are in with a great chance of beating that. (Isn't Wikipedia wonderful?).
I imagine a lot of their fans are echoing what is being said on here. "This our best chance ever of winning the league, we have to go for it."
They've won a couple of league cups and the charity shield when we decided not to take part after winning the double in 71 but they've never won the top flight of FA cup.
Would be sad if 4th place was their genuine preference. Especially as they wouldn't be seeded for the play-offs so would stand a good chance of getting knocked out then.