Manc Logic

[OneBardGooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

[nut flush gooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

[DB10GOONER]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Quite funny how you don't seem to understand that a lot of those people on this forum have spent thousands and thousands going to games over decades and NOW do not go BECAUSE of what the club has become, BECAUSE we are asked to pay the highest prices for the lowest return.

Also, how are Arsenal somehow morally superior to Moron-hio teams because of the style of play? Turgid?? Have you really watched us?? Our style of play has been boring and turgid for years now. Tippy tappy little passing triangles with few shots and almost zero penetration is not entertaining, it's boring. And turgid.

[nut flush gooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Quite funny how you don't seem to understand that a lot of those people on this forum have spent thousands and thousands going to games over decades and NOW do not go BECAUSE of what the club has become, BECAUSE we are asked to pay the highest prices for the lowest return.

Also, how are Arsenal somehow morally superior to Moron-hio teams because of the style of play? Turgid?? Have you really watched us?? Our style of play has been boring and turgid for years now. Tippy tappy little passing triangles with few shots and almost zero penetration is not entertaining, it's boring. And turgid.

I wouldn't describe the football we played in the first half of the last season turgid at all!!! Remember blowing the Mancs away and Bayern at home for starters. It's very easy to become results orientated, yeah our form went in February and so did the quality of football but it's more than that. Maureens philosophy is not to lose first, have you watched the teams he's managed especially chelski?

And I don't buy all this bollocks about forum member's going to the games in years gone by, if you did a poll I am certain less than 10% have had a season ticket.

[DB10GOONER]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Quite funny how you don't seem to understand that a lot of those people on this forum have spent thousands and thousands going to games over decades and NOW do not go BECAUSE of what the club has become, BECAUSE we are asked to pay the highest prices for the lowest return.

Also, how are Arsenal somehow morally superior to Moron-hio teams because of the style of play? Turgid?? Have you really watched us?? Our style of play has been boring and turgid for years now. Tippy tappy little passing triangles with few shots and almost zero penetration is not entertaining, it's boring. And turgid.

I wouldn't describe the football we played in the first half of the last season turgid at all!!! Remember blowing the Mancs away and Bayern at home for starters. It's very easy to become results orientated, yeah our form went in February and so did the quality of football but it's more than that. Maureens philosophy is not to lose first, have you watched the teams he's managed especially chelski?

And I don't buy all this bollocks about forum member's going to the games in years gone by, if you did a poll I am certain less than 10% have had a season ticket.

What is "bollocks" about forum members going to games in years gone by? What has a season ticket got to do with anything? I've never had an ST in my life but I can guarantee you I've spent far more money and put in far more travel attending games over the last 25 years than any ST holder ever has. And I personally know a lot of people on here that have also done that, having met them at games over the last 10 or so years.

Very easy to become results orientated? It's a good point - but it's also very easy to become moral-high-ground orientated based on style of play. And to be honest I'd accept GG's style of play (economical, industrial at best - apart from 1991) and Moron-hios style of play, if it meant winning (or even genuinely challenging for) the PL and/or CL. Football is a results driven business. 2nd place, 4th place - they all equal losing to me. There are winners and losers in football, no moral victories or grey areas.

Also, tbh - it's a totally false economy for us to feel somehow morally superior to a Moron-hio side because we pass the ball to death - I maintain we are boring to watch, certainly the majority of the time. Sure we had a couple of games that were exciting or entertaining, but so did the chavs under Moron-hio.

[nut flush gooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Quite funny how you don't seem to understand that a lot of those people on this forum have spent thousands and thousands going to games over decades and NOW do not go BECAUSE of what the club has become, BECAUSE we are asked to pay the highest prices for the lowest return.

Also, how are Arsenal somehow morally superior to Moron-hio teams because of the style of play? Turgid?? Have you really watched us?? Our style of play has been boring and turgid for years now. Tippy tappy little passing triangles with few shots and almost zero penetration is not entertaining, it's boring. And turgid.

I wouldn't describe the football we played in the first half of the last season turgid at all!!! Remember blowing the Mancs away and Bayern at home for starters. It's very easy to become results orientated, yeah our form went in February and so did the quality of football but it's more than that. Maureens philosophy is not to lose first, have you watched the teams he's managed especially chelski?

And I don't buy all this bollocks about forum member's going to the games in years gone by, if you did a poll I am certain less than 10% have had a season ticket.

What is "bollocks" about forum members going to games in years gone by? What has a season ticket got to do with anything? I've never had an ST in my life but I can guarantee you I've spent far more money and put in far more travel attending games over the last 25 years than any ST holder ever has. And I personally know a lot of people on here that have also done that, having met them at games over the last 10 or so years.

Very easy to become results orientated? It's a good point - but it's also very easy to become moral-high-ground orientated based on style of play. And to be honest I'd accept GG's style of play (economical, industrial at best - apart from 1991) and Moron-hios style of play, if it meant winning (or even genuinely challenging for) the PL and/or CL. Football is a results driven business. 2nd place, 4th place - they all equal losing to me. There are winners and losers in football, no moral victories or grey areas.

Also, tbh - it's a totally false economy for us to feel somehow morally superior to a Moron-hio side because we pass the ball to death - I maintain we are boring to watch, certainly the majority of the time. Sure we had a couple of games that were exciting or entertaining, but so did the chavs under Moron-hio.

You are one, I am talking about the whole forum. What get's my goat up is people in other countries saying what should happen at our club (and by that I mean social media as well as the forum). I have a feeling Maureen is past his best, for me Simeone is the man who we should watch and if possible get into our club. His teams have steel and style, I have loved watching them progress in the CL this season.

My only concern is if he wins the CL he may become one of the most coveted managers in the world, and it would then be nigh on impossible to get him over to the emirates.

By the way do you have a job? If so do some work you lazy fecker!

[DB10GOONER]

By the way do you have a job? If so do some work you lazy fecker!

Well, I am a civil servant in Oireland - so I used to work hard for fuck all money. But now I'm a manager, so I do fuck all work for alot of money!

[nut flush gooner]

By the way do you have a job? If so do some work you lazy fecker!

Well, I am a civil servant in Oireland - so I used to work hard for fuck all money. But now I'm a manager, so I do fuck all work for alot of money!

So the public sector in oireland is an easy life like in the UK then. No wonder you guys needed a bailout .

[DB10GOONER]

By the way do you have a job? If so do some work you lazy fecker!

Well, I am a civil servant in Oireland - so I used to work hard for fuck all money. But now I'm a manager, so I do fuck all work for alot of money!

So the public sector in oireland is an easy life like in the UK then. No wonder you guys needed a bailout .

Yep.

At the lower grades it's a pure grind tbh - long hours, terrible pay. But management grades are a piece of piss in a lot of ways. Don't get me wrong, I deffo earned my last couple promotions, worked my ass off and volunteered for every project I could get on and then went through rigorous testing and interview processes, but I look around and there are still a big chunk of managers that came through the old "seniority" process, which basically boiled down to "Hey, John - you've been sitting at that same desk for 10 years, we have to promote you".

[OneBardGooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Having supported Arsenal for 47years and spent a "Fortune" for 37 of those 47years - I believe I am entitled to my opinion on all things Arsenal - And for the record the thought of maureen at THE Arsenal gives me the shivers - He is a classless twat - a winner yes - but I too wouldn't want him at my club - There again the Club (Arsenal) that once was the bench mark for "Class" no longer is.

As for your comment

"people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother" You seem to assume a great deal and in that assumption 'judge' those you do not even know - Unless of course you would care to name them?

Oh! and as for ST I once shared a ST with my older brother - Never been able to afford one (as in on my own) - especially these past 7 seasons - unless of course you're accusing those who can no longer afford to go as often as they would like to, or perhaps choose not to because of the "Regime" that is now in place of not having a right to an opinion? Even when it differs from another's.

[nut flush gooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Having supported Arsenal for 47years and spent a "Fortune" for 37 of those 47years - I believe I am entitled to my opinion on all things Arsenal - And for the record the thought of maureen at THE Arsenal gives me the shivers - He is a classless twat - a winner yes - but I too wouldn't want him at my club - There again the Club (Arsenal) that once was the bench mark for "Class" no longer is.

As for your comment

"people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother" You seem to assume a great deal and in that assumption 'judge' those you do not even know - Unless of course you would care to name them?

Oh! and as for ST I once shared a ST with my older brother - Never been able to afford one (as in on my own) - especially these past 7 seasons - unless of course you're accusing those who can no longer afford to go as often as they would like to, or perhaps choose not to because of the "Regime" that is now in place of not having a right to an opinion? Even when it differs from another's.

That's because my assumptions are correct. You even admitted you don't go any more so what right have you got to suggest that paying fans should put up with any other manager, the same goes for other managers suggested by people who never attend any games?

Just think about the number of forum member's that have never even set foot in the emirates, they would outnumber those of us that do big time. Yet it is these people that seem to have the biggest opinions.

[OneBardGooner]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Having supported Arsenal for 47years and spent a "Fortune" for 37 of those 47years - I believe I am entitled to my opinion on all things Arsenal - And for the record the thought of maureen at THE Arsenal gives me the shivers - He is a classless twat - a winner yes - but I too wouldn't want him at my club - There again the Club (Arsenal) that once was the bench mark for "Class" no longer is.

As for your comment

"people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother" You seem to assume a great deal and in that assumption 'judge' those you do not even know - Unless of course you would care to name them?

Oh! and as for ST I once shared a ST with my older brother - Never been able to afford one (as in on my own) - especially these past 7 seasons - unless of course you're accusing those who can no longer afford to go as often as they would like to, or perhaps choose not to because of the "Regime" that is now in place of not having a right to an opinion? Even when it differs from another's.

That's because my assumptions are correct. You even admitted you don't go any more so what right have you got to suggest that paying fans should put up with any other manager, the same goes for other managers suggested by people who never attend any games?

Just think about the number of forum member's that have never even set foot in the emirates, they would outnumber those of us that do big time. Yet it is these people that seem to have the biggest opinions.

So when exactly did I do that?

And whether I go (anymore or not) is irrelevant - I have an opinion and that opinion is based on the FACT that for me wenger is no longer fit for purpose unless you think he is still the best person for the job. Do You?

And as for your assumptions being correct - it may well apply to some people - but not to all.

I would like to think that anyone that is a regular on here - (except for the obvious non-Gooners) has Arsenal's best at heart and would have seen Arsenal play (live) unless they live in OZ or The States etc...You seem to be taking it all rather personally - It is just opinions - and you can either agree/disagree or ignore them....Maybe you equate 'Biggest Opinions' with opinions that are most often voiced. And the majority of forum members seem to be WOB.

What I do know is that although I no longer go - as it is too expensive AND even if I could afford to go - I wouldn't because Wenger is the problem In My Opinion.. Yet you seem to think I (and others that are long time Gooners) are not allowed to an opinion.


Actually thinking about it that does seem to be very Wenger - like.

[northbank123]

Obviously most of those who get mugged for a grand and a half a year want that to go into Wenger's pocket so that he can make sure we don't challenge for the title.

[augie]

By the way do you have a job? If so do some work you lazy fecker!

Well, I am a civil servant in Oireland - so I used to work hard for fuck all money. But now I'm a manager, so I do fuck all work for alot of money!

So the public sector in oireland is an easy life like in the UK then. No wonder you guys needed a bailout .

Yep.

At the lower grades it's a pure grind tbh - long hours, terrible pay. But management grades are a piece of piss in a lot of ways. Don't get me wrong, I deffo earned my last couple promotions, worked my ass off and volunteered for every project I could get on and then went through rigorous testing and interview processes, but I look around and there are still a big chunk of managers that came through the old "seniority" process, which basically boiled down to "Hey, John - you've been sitting at that same desk for 10 years, we have to promote you".

So you basically slept your way to the top then ?? Instead of poor alan sitting at the desk for ten years, all he had to do was bend over it for some of his bosses (probably former rugby lads) to take him up the shitter and hey presto here is your promotion - no wonder you are obsessed with gay sex

[GranadaJoe]

Maureen may be a classless twatscumbag - But he is a Winner on the pitch - and of course he winds clueless up no end - The ink on his new contract isnm't even dry yet and he has already given manure board his shopping list.



WENGER OUT!

So given this he would never come to Arsenal. As much as you hate Wenger, I can never see the board giving a manager like Maureen free reign on our cash reserves.

I still wouldn't want him at the club. In the mid 80s/early 90s my season ticket cost not much more than £90 for football that wasn't great on the eye. Why should I pay £1k for a turgid style of football that Maureen brings to the club. If I pay that much I wan't to be entertained.

Quite funny how a lot of people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother.

Having supported Arsenal for 47years and spent a "Fortune" for 37 of those 47years - I believe I am entitled to my opinion on all things Arsenal - And for the record the thought of maureen at THE Arsenal gives me the shivers - He is a classless twat - a winner yes - but I too wouldn't want him at my club - There again the Club (Arsenal) that once was the bench mark for "Class" no longer is.

As for your comment

"people on this forum think they have a right to determine what paying Arsenal fans have to put up with, when they don't step a mile within the ground either out of principle or just don't bother" You seem to assume a great deal and in that assumption 'judge' those you do not even know - Unless of course you would care to name them?

Oh! and as for ST I once shared a ST with my older brother - Never been able to afford one (as in on my own) - especially these past 7 seasons - unless of course you're accusing those who can no longer afford to go as often as they would like to, or perhaps choose not to because of the "Regime" that is now in place of not having a right to an opinion? Even when it differs from another's.

That's because my assumptions are correct. You even admitted you don't go any more so what right have you got to suggest that paying fans should put up with any other manager, the same goes for other managers suggested by people who never attend any games?

Just think about the number of forum member's that have never even set foot in the emirates, they would outnumber those of us that do big time. Yet it is these people that seem to have the biggest opinions.

Could you save everybody a lot of time and effort and just inform us which of us are entitled to an opinion and which of us can just fuck the fuck off.