Tomo wrote:to be honest, arguing on here is not really going to solve the issue. some people will sing it, and some wont, and that will always be how it is. i agree that the chant could be deemed offensive to jewish arsenal fans, but against the scum in the CC semi at our place, i was singing it (with the whole of the block i was in may i add) not out of malace to jewish people, but as a wind up to spurs fans who were singing about wenger being a peado. alot of people on here will say there is nothing wrong with singing it, but alot of the time they are not of jewish descent. in future i will continue to sing the song as banter. in all fairness though, the song is hardly sung at all nowadays, only in pubs and against the spuds really
Sorry..I wanted to comment on this issue earlier, but was caught up in other things..so i'll post it now...
I love this argument because you hear it so often, but it just defies logic.
On the one hand, he agrees that it is offensive to Arsenal fans, yet he still sings it...perversely, to wind up the Spurs fans!
Surely they understand that the people they are trying to offend are just as likely to be wearing an Arsenal shirt, as they are a Spurs shirt, therefore the chant loses it's puropse, surely?
Would you chant monkey noises at an oppostion player if you were sat next to a black Arsenal fan?
of course not...it would offend him, and he's not your target audience. So, where's the logic in chanting anti-semitic songs at Spurs fans when you can as good as guarantee that you are sat near any number of Jewish Arsenal fans?? it makes no sense at all...you're knowingly offending fellow Arsenal fans. And yet, these same people think that we shouldn't be offended...yet, that's the whole purpose of them singing these songs....to offend the Spurs fans!
double standards?..
Arsenal Jews shouldn;t be offended, but Spurs' Jewish fans should be? ok
And just to top it all off, these people who chant these songs, don't feel they should be held accountable for their own actions, as they're just doing what other people are doing.
Madness
My point is..it doesn't matter if it's anti-semitic or about the colour of your underpants.....if both parties are just as likely to be effected... then what's the point?
The only thing I like about reading posts like I have tonight, is that it reminds me how lucky I am to have been brought up to think for myself and seperate right from wrong using my own moral code...I find it hard to understand how some people can justify their stand point on these issues by simply passing the buck, and not accepting accountability, on the basis that these songs existed before they sung them. Oh well.