London Riots

[storrmin571]

Heard from a pal in Northern Ireland today, 2 water cannon and a number of the white armoured land rovers have been sent to the mainland via stranraer. On 24 hour notice they can be moved anywhere in the country.


Isolated violence and arson in cardiff last night as I said earlier butetown, canton/grangetown areas. Jd sports down bay was an attempt to loot.

[worthing_gooner]

Wonderful. Made my day.

You got a link for that mate? That is quality!

[ThomasMitchell]

doubt any significant numbers of people would volunteer to be sterilised

I know you are right. But you never know. Promise them the latest pair of Nike trainers and a 52" TV and you might get a few.

[skipper]

There is getting to be more and more useless scummy pieces of shit in our country that are of no use to anyone in particular or society in general and who we wouldn't miss if they were rounded up and shot.

I didn't know kate Middleton is pregnant?

[ThomasMitchell]

There is getting to be more and more useless scummy pieces of shit in our country that are of no use to anyone in particular or society in general and who we wouldn't miss if they were rounded up and shot.

I didn't know kate Middleton is pregnant?

[highburyJD]

don't be silly skipper
we can't shoot the royal family









bring out zee guillotine!

[skipper]

Yeah, right...socialists, do gooders, Guardian, BBC, Independent - have I forgot someone? How much beeter would this country be if we all read Daily Mail, brainwash ourselves with Sun papers and Sky TV?

That's the problem of this society, it's always someone else's fault. It's never us.

Do any of you personaly know any of these so called do-gooders, for which quite few here hold so much contempt? Because if you did and if you knew how much good work these people put into our society, perhaps you wouldn't be spouting mindless right wing propaganda.

So many of you are trigger happy, being so far away from these riots and also completely detached from reality.

Actually I wouldn’t mind betting that the average Daily Mail reader is probably far less likely to commit crime and far more likely to have gone to work and paid their taxes. So if that is the worst thing about a Mail reader, let’s have more of them I say.

It's ironic that you say "that's the problem of this society, it's always someone else's fault. It’s never us". The whole notion of 'society' gives people the excuse to blame others. It encourages the mentality of “why should I do something for myself when the Government can do it for meâ€

[ThomasMitchell]

Yeah, right...socialists, do gooders, Guardian, BBC, Independent - have I forgot someone? How much beeter would this country be if we all read Daily Mail, brainwash ourselves with Sun papers and Sky TV?

That's the problem of this society, it's always someone else's fault. It's never us.

Do any of you personaly know any of these so called do-gooders, for which quite few here hold so much contempt? Because if you did and if you knew how much good work these people put into our society, perhaps you wouldn't be spouting mindless right wing propaganda.

So many of you are trigger happy, being so far away from these riots and also completely detached from reality.

Actually I wouldn’t mind betting that the average Daily Mail reader is probably far less likely to commit crime and far more likely to have gone to work and paid their taxes. So if that is the worst thing about a Mail reader, let’s have more of them I say.

It's ironic that you say "that's the problem of this society, it's always someone else's fault. It’s never us". The whole notion of 'society' gives people the excuse to blame others. It encourages the mentality of “why should I do something for myself when the Government can do it for meâ€

[Nos89]

I took from your original post Quartz, that the NS should be directed at certain sections of society. I apologise for misreading your intentions.

National Service for everyone means it would not be stigmatized but I cannot see how it would benefit the problems of the last week which are grounded in social inequality. NS cannot address the first eighteen years of a child's life or the years following.It is not always possible for single mums to continue living in their current accomodation. In these circumstances then the welfare of the newborn and mother should be prioritised. Stories about weed and MTV are anecdotal and we could both go on forever recounting experiences of meeting those who have embraced independence with a maturity and those who have not.

There is a benefits class. The situation has been brewing for too long and social unrest will increase. In my opinion a radical overhaul of social perception and radical policies addressing inequality is the only way to improve life for all.

Yes but national service will influence youths in the most vital years of their lives, that transitional period which defines their entire adult life.

And it will teach them morals and respect which every single one of those yobs are completely lacking.

Make no mistake, these scumbags aren't setting fire to people's property or smashing up shops and stealing stuff because they feel hard done by, they're doing it because they feel like having a tear up.

Being a multi cultural society national service will no longer work like it used to. In any case it wouldn't act as a deterrent for a 16 yr old.

Firstly, the govt should reduce the age of an adult criminal record from 17yrs old down to 14 yrs old. Loads of youths know that in a majority of cases the slate gets wiped clean at 17. Times change we are now in the 21st century a 14yr old is more aware of their rights than say of a 14 yr old 30 yrs ago.

Secondly, make schools have 4 terms/ semesters reducing the length of the long summer holiday. Also, make it compulsary to be in education until the age of 18 yrs. It works in most of europe and USA.

Thirdly, set out a proper criteria for the action police can take in an event like this. Enabling them to take correct level of action depending on the level of disturbance.

[skipper]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... mob-mayhem

I went along in 1981 because I was swept away by the mind-blowing buzz of mob mayhem. There's no justifying that – in the crudest terms such behaviour is quite simply wrong – but try telling that to a 15-year-old on a mountain bike. To him or her, it's like a Wii game come to life – a hyper-real version of GTA. You taunt the police until they chase you, then you leg it and regroup. Some of the more radical kids will throw rocks and set cars and wheelie bins alight to get them going, but sooner or later the "bizzies" (police) will charge.

[1886]

Excellent, I hope they dragged him to the nearest police station.

[goonermarc]

That Gif is from Vancouver a few months ago, seems to have resurfaced recently.

[ThomasMitchell]

That Gif is from Vancouver a few months ago, seems to have resurfaced recently.

Still good. Looters are scum wherever they are.

[QuartzGooner]

Being a multi cultural society national service will no longer work like it used to. In any case it wouldn't act as a deterrent for a 16 yr old.

Firstly, the govt should reduce the age of an adult criminal record from 17yrs old down to 14 yrs old. Loads of youths know that in a majority of cases the slate gets wiped clean at 17. Times change we are now in the 21st century a 14yr old is more aware of their rights than say of a 14 yr old 30 yrs ago.

Secondly, make schools have 4 terms/ semesters reducing the length of the long summer holiday. Also, make it compulsary to be in education until the age of 18 yrs. It works in most of europe and USA.

Thirdly, set out a proper criteria for the action police can take in an event like this. Enabling them to take correct level of action depending on the level of disturbance.

1.) How do we know national service won't work?

When national service was in effect up to the 1960's, the country was multi-cultural, but to a lesser extent than it is now.
West Indians, Jews, Irish were all part of national service then.
I can only speak for my community but the people I know who did national service are certainly more easy going, and disciplined, and hard working, than my generation.
Getting people to meet people from other backgrounds might help to reduce ignorance and mistrust.

Agree with points 2 and 3.

[corkbarry]

About one minute in is how you deal with scumbags, the first part is Beautiful to watch



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ThJblp ... re=related