Aaron Ramsey - statistics and form etc.

[SteveO 35]

Elneny is getting an awful lot of plaudits recently. But lets face it, hes being praised, not because hes really good, its just because hes not Ramsey fs.

Agree to a point - he's hardly spectacular but to be honest its just refreshing to see someone not consistently giving the ball away there. Elneny never does that because he takes the Denilson route of laying it off simple 9 times out of 10.

[Sean]

Elneny is getting an awful lot of plaudits recently. But lets face it, hes being praised, not because hes really good, its just because hes not Ramsey fs.

Because he keeps it simple, unlike Ramsey who usually fucks up and loses the ball trying to be flash

[DB10GOONER]

Saw a couple of things today that make me think the Messi-Lite Ramsey has alienated a few of his team mates. He had an absolute pop at Nacho for heading a clearance into the centre of the park where he himself was stood immobile. Hardly suicide defending, and Nacho rightly appeared to give him some back. 30 seconds later Rambo was caught square on as a Mackem ran past him and after we cleared it the Big German Vagina lumbered a good ten to 15 yards towards Ramsey and had a real go at him. Ramsey had a pop back and the BGV exchanged more heated words with him. A couple minutes later the Welsh Pele had a go at Sanchez for not passing to him, and in general seemed to be rolling his eyes and shoulders in mini huffs throughout the game.

I wonder has Ramsey's incessant flicks, backheels, losing possession, general long term shitness, and getting picked by Wenger no matter how shit he is playing, finally worn a bit thin with a few of his team mates?

Golden rule; never have a pop at a team mate when you yourself are playing shite.

[GoonerMuzz]

The one that wound me up today was when Elneny played a lovely little ball over the defender and all Ramsey had to do was turn and chase the ball but instead he tried to get it under control and instead kicked into touch, instead of an apology he just give a big gormless grin to himself, mind you Giroud did the same thing a couple of times too, it's almost as if some of these players think it's all a big joke, maybe we should send round Herd for a chat with them

[donaldo71]

Elneny is getting an awful lot of plaudits recently. But lets face it, hes being praised, not because hes really good, its just because hes not Ramsey fs.

Spot on.He's like Coquelin last season a couple of good games and it was we dont need a top quality DM.The same now with Iwobi the same when the Ox came in.Arsenal fans fall for it every time.Judge a player over a season not 5 games
Elneny and Coquelin maybe good squad players but we need a world class DM

[northbank123]

Alarmingly bad.

We can't hope to counter-attack or use pace to pick the opposition apart when Ramsey is so ponderous and slow on the ball - unless he is aimlessly flicking it.

Wilshere looked better in 5 minutes after a year out than Ramsey has at any point this season. The fact that he is still starting underlines Wenger's policy of picking favourites rather than on form.

[Top Londoner]

Never seen him have a good game for us, pre or post leg break. Out of his depth in premiership, a championship player as seen when he played on loan at Cardiff. I would welcome his departure in the summer, can't see it though.

Jesus Sidney, I know we're all entitled to an opinion but that seems incredibly harsh. You really think that a player that can dominate games so much when playing and captaining his country is Championship level? You really haven't seem glimpses of what might be in a couple of years time when he's played for us? All I'm saying is give the boy time, it's far to early to judge and just mad to say sell him now.

You're a tough man to please!

I love hindsight. From April 2012
No offence Eboue -why.








WENGER OUT

[northbank123]

If he broke his leg again now I still reckon Wenger would roll him out in a full leg cast on crutches to start the following game.

Seriously what does he need to do to get dropped?

[officepest]

If he broke his leg again now I still reckon Wenger would roll him out in a full leg cast on crutches to start the following game.

Seriously what does he need to do to get dropped?

Criticize Arsene?

Absolute muck today, again.

[Sean]

Another legacy of TOF's; an absolute non-coaching of a player, never criticizing him or giving him any feedback whatsoever

It seems Hollywood Rambo has never been told 'Keep it simple'

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

I'm probably his biggest hater and I won't back down from it, and probably never will, unless he starts playing like he belongs at a club the quality of Arsenal. For me right now, he belongs at West Brom. He is the Welsh equivalent of Denilson. He passes sideways and backwards 95% of the time. He slows down our play so much that we cannot seem to get anything going. Compare that to when Rosicky plays in the same position and we move 100x faster and more direct. When Ramsey plays it seems like RVP is so isolated up front, but not when TR7 plays. Unless Song is creating, we are terribly stale with Ramsey.

It is no wonder that our winning streak started with Ramsey got injured and Rosicky came into the team in his natural position. I admit before his injury I saw glimpses of a good player. But that was a long time ago now and he's had plenty of time in the first team to show SOMETHING. He doesnt get back like Rosicky does and put in a good tackle, and his flicks and shit are just annoying.

And dont tell me age is an excuse because Wilshire is younger and miles better.

And I'll add to that, that OX can play the CAM role much much better than Ramsey ever could. He gets back and puts in a tackle, then gets the team moving FORWARD, not sideways/slowly.

This is my quote from page 1 of this thread from 4 YEARS AGO.

DEJA FUCKING VU

[Rosie_titters]

Just wondering why Ramsey isn't making those runs in to the box he was doing a couple of years ago. When he scored a hell of a lot of important goals for us. He was excellent then and scored good goals against Munich and in the FA Cup against Hull.
On Sunday he was playing a lot deeper and on many occasions Elneny was further forward. I am wondering if he is being accommodated to suit others.

[GoonerMuzz]

Just wondering why Ramsey isn't making those runs in to the box he was doing a couple of years ago. When he scored a hell of a lot of important goals for us. He was excellent then and scored good goals against Munich and in the FA Cup against Hull.
On Sunday he was playing a lot deeper and on many occasions Elneny was further forward. I am wondering if he is being accommodated to suit others.

Call me cynical but i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Arsene ensuring his international love children get game time prior to the Euros.

For the life of me i cannot think of any other reason to start Ramsey or Giroud, and if i'm honest Jack either, there are players in our squad who should be getting football on merit from effort in previous matches but the favourite children always get their spot back no matter how bad they are or how long they've been out for.

[M3Gooner]

Badly out of form and confidence is shot. The guy can't play deep role in 2 man midfield. His best season for us when he was pushed further forward which Ozil currently occupies (Ozil was pushed out wide back then). I think he can only be backup to Ozil at this point.

[Henry Norris 1913]

as people said on here before, wenger couldn't wait to move ramsey back into the team, don't know why, he is highly responsible for our slow build up play and general negativity.

wenger and ramsey that is.