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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Thu May 03, 2018 10:03 am
Maybe he will come in as Tactics person or one of the coaches with a main manager ? :?
Not sure how that would make sense... why would you go from being assistant to a bloke you've worked with for years and years, to work for a fairly equally sized club in the same role for an unknown boss?

If he's leaving the dippers for Arsenal, the only role that would make sense is as manager/head coach - but it doesn't make a whole load of sense either way.


I'm getting the feeling this is going to be a massive rumourmill right up until the day it's announced - and it'll still be a surprise even then (hopefully a good one for you).

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Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....

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Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....
exactly - he is the only manager who might be able to sort the mess out at the club.

chances of it happening....zero

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Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....



Would be my choice too but I have continually said that it was never a realistic option - he doesnt speak a word of english and has shown no inclination to start, so I guess you can take it that he has no interest in managing in england at the moment :cry:

Allegri on the other hand is doing english lessons and would be a perfect fit imo 8)

Btw one of the red tops this morning is saying that the victims assistant is taking a managers job with some club in germany - heres hoping :barscarf:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:59 am
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....
exactly - he is the only manager who might be able to sort the mess out at the club.

chances of it happening....zero
AAAAAND Give some of our pussified snowflake pampered garvy train riding twatplayers WHOOPS UP-SIDE The HEAD!

Then sell them.

ALLEGRI !!!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Good to see Moron-hio is still taking the piss, the bitter little poxbottle.... :roll:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/05 ... ed-wenger/

Hopefully there is no way this jumped up little Moron-hio-Lite cúnt Faria is even being considered, but you never know with our shit owner and shit Board.... :| :roll:

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augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....



Would be my choice too but I have continually said that it was never a realistic option - he doesnt speak a word of english and has shown no inclination to start, so I guess you can take it that he has no interest in managing in england at the moment :cry:

Allegri on the other hand is doing english lessons and would be a perfect fit imo 8)

Btw one of the red tops this morning is saying that the victims assistant is taking a managers job with some club in germany - heres hoping :barscarf:
Augie, Simeone does speak English - just not fluently, which (like Ozil who also speaks English) is why he does interviews in his mother tongue, as it is quicker and easier. You have to remember these guys do anywhere between 5 and 20 interviews in a session sometimes.

The real problem with Simeone is I can't see AtHletico releasing him for any amount of money. Without him they easily could go mid table in Spain.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:24 am
augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....



Would be my choice too but I have continually said that it was never a realistic option - he doesnt speak a word of english and has shown no inclination to start, so I guess you can take it that he has no interest in managing in england at the moment :cry:

Allegri on the other hand is doing english lessons and would be a perfect fit imo 8)

Btw one of the red tops this morning is saying that the victims assistant is taking a managers job with some club in germany - heres hoping :barscarf:
Augie, Simeone does speak English - just not fluently, which (like Ozil who also speaks English) is why he does interviews in his mother tongue, as it is quicker and easier. You have to remember these guys do anywhere between 5 and 20 interviews in a session sometimes.

The real problem with Simeone is I can't see AtHletico releasing him for any amount of money. Without him they easily could go mid table in Spain.



Such is the difference a top quality manager can make :cry: :cry: :cry:

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augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:36 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:24 am
augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....



Would be my choice too but I have continually said that it was never a realistic option - he doesnt speak a word of english and has shown no inclination to start, so I guess you can take it that he has no interest in managing in england at the moment :cry:

Allegri on the other hand is doing english lessons and would be a perfect fit imo 8)

Btw one of the red tops this morning is saying that the victims assistant is taking a managers job with some club in germany - heres hoping :barscarf:
Augie, Simeone does speak English - just not fluently, which (like Ozil who also speaks English) is why he does interviews in his mother tongue, as it is quicker and easier. You have to remember these guys do anywhere between 5 and 20 interviews in a session sometimes.

The real problem with Simeone is I can't see AtHletico releasing him for any amount of money. Without him they easily could go mid table in Spain.



Such is the difference a top quality manager can make :cry: :cry: :cry:
Absofuckinglutely. It was often mentioned on here that almost any manager could get more from these players than Wenger.... I never fully agreed with that. I mean idiots like Fat Sam, Pulis, Hughes, Redkrapp couldn't in a million years.

But certainly top managers like Simeone and Allegri could and even second tier managers like Klopp and Rodgers would get more from them.

The question now is do we still have the ambition to be a top club? If so the board and owner have to appoint Allegri or Simeone. Break the bank. Do what needs to be done. Send a message. If not, then it's gonna be the dud outa the Mousers or Arteta or Enrique and that would say to me the owner and Board are still cùnts with no ambition beyond maximising profits.

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Garry Megson is 16/1 odds on becoming our next manager. :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://metro.co.uk/2018/05/04/next-arse ... s-7521125/

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 12:29 pm
augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:36 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:24 am
augie wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am
Bob Bayliss wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:00 am
Go throw the kitchen sink at Simeone. I want my (1-0 to the) Arsenal back. It's been a while....



Would be my choice too but I have continually said that it was never a realistic option - he doesnt speak a word of english and has shown no inclination to start, so I guess you can take it that he has no interest in managing in england at the moment :cry:

Allegri on the other hand is doing english lessons and would be a perfect fit imo 8)

Btw one of the red tops this morning is saying that the victims assistant is taking a managers job with some club in germany - heres hoping :barscarf:
Augie, Simeone does speak English - just not fluently, which (like Ozil who also speaks English) is why he does interviews in his mother tongue, as it is quicker and easier. You have to remember these guys do anywhere between 5 and 20 interviews in a session sometimes.

The real problem with Simeone is I can't see AtHletico releasing him for any amount of money. Without him they easily could go mid table in Spain.



Such is the difference a top quality manager can make :cry: :cry: :cry:
Absofuckinglutely. It was often mentioned on here that almost any manager could get more from these players than Wenger.... I never fully agreed with that. I mean idiots like Fat Sam, Pulis, Hughes, Redkrapp couldn't in a million years.

But certainly top managers like Simeone and Allegri could and even second tier managers like Klopp and Rodgers would get more from them.

The question now is do we still have the ambition to be a top club? If so the board and owner have to appoint Allegri or Simeone. Break the bank. Do what needs to be done. Send a message. If not, then it's gonna be the dud outa the Mousers or Arteta or Enrique and that would say to me the owner and Board are still cùnts with no ambition beyond maximising profits.
I dont think anyone would disagree a top or even second tier manager would get more out this team, but do you really believe that even Simeone or Allegri could make us challengers without a massive clear out, for me there is a huge difference between being competetive and actually challenging mate.

There are far too many players in this squad with deficiencies in simple footballing understanding, especially players at or near their peak who just dont understand their positions and those are the things that no amount of coaching can rectify. Some of these guys have played football for decades, since they were young kids, and yet do not understand basic things, we can blame Wenger for a huge amount of things but there are players in our squad who should also hang their heads in shame. My case in point being our old back 5, they just understood their jobs and if rumours are true then Wenger didn't teach/coach anything they just went out and did it game after game.

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Unfortunately, the likelihood is Arsenal won't improve to the extent of being a proper force in England, let alone Europe, until the Kroenkes have gone. Yes, hopefully a good season or two here and there, maybe even the occasional title challenge. But you can't dominate in this league with cheapskate owners. So we're talking ten, twenty years possibly longer, until we can possibly properly reassert ourselves via an owner who matches the club's stature and the fans ambitions.

We're like an affluent young couple with a very good deposit in the bank looking to buy a beautiful home in North London. We've got a hundred thousand deposit, both on salaries of 80k a year, but for some fucked up reason our bank manager will only give us a mortgage of 100k. Our work colleagues meanwhile, who are actually worse off than us financially earning only 50k a year, have just secured a mortgage of 500k and their bank manager has told them to come back any time.

Anyway, that's my strained analogy for the day. Bottom line is though, we're screwed. At least we can focus our ire on the Kroenkes now Wenger is out of the way.

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sk-gtfo wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 1:44 am
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... fer-budget

Just in time for ST renewals?.

:roll:



I never believed the £50m transfer kitty story, but nor do I believe this story

Being honest here I have to say that I dont think the transfer budget will have a big bearing on renewals - in previous seasons the mythical "transfer chest" story was wheeled out to counter the fact that the french c.unt was staying, but I think that the club and the fans know that the biggest factor now is who gets the managers job. Giving brendan rodgers (for example) the job and even a £500m transfer kitty wouldnt placate the fans, so the club need to go and get a quality manager and agree a budget with him, cos getting a top manager is the immediate priority for us fans

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Not sure I agree that the extent of the transfer kitty is irrelevant to whether people are persuaded to renew their season tickets. Wenger going is a prerequisite.....but people still want to be convinced that the club is not going to be trying to operate on the cheap in the modern era, where that simply isn't an option if we want to be the best again.

To a large extent the calibre of manager we are able to attract is inextricably linked to how much we are going to give them to overhaul this squad and enable us to compete properly with the elite of English and European football as we were promised.

Yes, Wenger mismanaged the resources available to him big time.....but if the new guy is told that he will only have about 50 or 60 million to work with that will speak volumes about the club's ambitions.

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