The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[AkneyGooner]

Jacinda Ahern is a fucking useless Pm ask the people of NZ and is currently milking the killings there for all it's worth ,no wonder you like her Nut , Me I always preferred Caroline Ahern ,even though she's dead she talks more sense than Jacinda !

It disgusting to be honest, if that mosque was in a middle east country and a cruise missile slammed into it, would barely make two news cycles.

[A11M11]

Similarly over 100 Christians killed by Boku Haram in Nigeria the same day. Neither is right but the disproportionate reporting stands out because it is commonplace in one place and not in the other

[nut flush gooner]

Jacinda Ahern is a fucking useless Pm ask the people of NZ and is currently milking the killings there for all it's worth ,no wonder you like her Nut , Me I always preferred Caroline Ahern ,even though she's dead she talks more sense than Jacinda !

Herd I really wonder about you at times. I had to look up a poll that had taken place before the shootings, and not surprisingly she is streets ahead of the opposition even though effectively there is a coalition government,

If you compare how Ahern has handled the Christchurch shootings with TM handled the Grenfell Fire for example, how can you honestly say she is milking it, seriously? She is doing her job showing strong leadership, compassion and being a stateswoman. Theresa May after Grenfell went to visit the fucking fireman, do you expect Ahern to visit the police instead of the victims? In an era where we have populists who divide, you can't have a pop at someone who has done her best to bring different communities together. The world needs more people like her. Jeez.

[Herd]

Wont be much point of the Marches Saturday y ,right now there's a good chance that no deal can be put through Parliament and therefore May will call the whole thing off and Brexit will be dead .
However and just as I was worried about before but was again ridiculed by Nuts Flushed who is a man who knows a lot about nothing and nothing about a lot, Corbyn is now ,(with the zeal of a lemming heading for the cliffs ), desperately trying to find a way that LAbour can support Mays Deal without losing face !
I really have seen it all now !

No deal isn't even an issue at this stage. Parliament voted emphatically against a hard brexit.

Only the Europeans can kick us out now. This is patently clear if we don't buck our ideas up, by the end of June that will be a reality.

That's why TM is holding Parliament/the country to ransom. And this whole process was supposed to bring power back to this country, the reality is we have a dictator of a Prime Minister. In the Brexit camp, I do not believe there are anywhere near the 17m people who voted for Brexit that would be happy with no deal, especially as it's their livelihoods on the line.

I didnt say No Deal Was an issue Nut please try to keep up , you always go off on tangents .
I said the whole thing may be off altogether although wanker Corbyn is trying to see what sort of BRINO deal he can support .
I do beleive a no deal Brexit would have been fine IF May had prepared for it but she just ran down the clock and then ran the train into the buffers.
I remain convinced everyone knew what they voted for and would do again Next time too only in greater numbers now we have seen how slimy the EU apparatchiks are. No Deal was the only way to get out on our terms but has been shot down
May has damaged this country more than any person economically in living History and should be in court for treason but instead will be a baroness real soon . Her Amazing arrogance suggests she has a majority which of course she hasn't but she's done very well with a weak hand or so she thinks . I hope a new Party emerges that wipes away both labour and conservative parties who are both stains on the bedsheets of a once proud nation .
I could here the laughter from Brussels as no deal got taken off the table ,we now have no hand to play to the EU so we might as well surrender and stay in the Eu and accept the shit they have stored up for us for the next 20 years .

I'm thinking of emigrating to New Zealand as this country is finished !

Again Herd lets keep this simple. Revoking article 50 is not written into uk law and therefore not an option at this stage. There needs to be a parliamentary vote and majority for this to become a reality. Stop assuming things until they actually happen.

Edit: On looking at this again it appears as though TM has the power to revoke article 50 without the endorsement of parliament. What a clusterfuck that would be. If that did happen for sure a wealthy Brexiteer as was the case with Gina Miller would take the government to the high court and probably win.

Ok your beginning to see the light ,heres how the stitch up goes its fiendishly simple !
1. May cannot get her shit sandwhich through Parliament she always knew this !
2. LAbour have commited to a) making sure a no deal happens ,but also B) have now volte faced and asked for a 2nd referendum ,they dont know it but they just fell into the trap she set and the door is now locked .
3. The EU threaten to kick us out in weeks with no deal and the country panics ( all pre arranged pantomime stuff ,they've known about this all along).
4. Article 50 gets revoked with a promise to have the 2nd referendum and sails through with Labour support thus absolving May who can say she did her best to deliver .
5. This is the skill bit , the new referendum splits the Brexit vote asunder by not asking again in or out but offering several options on Brexit ie Norway plus ,Hard Brexit ,Brino exit OR option 4 Remain in the EU. Option 4 wins even if opts 1-2-3 get more votes ,Its fucking brilliant .

Result ; Niccolo Machiavelli 1-Democracy 0 !

The people have spoken and we all go back to sleep !
DB shuts the thread and I get on with sellling Womans rugby knickers to the Japanese !

[nut flush gooner]

Similarly over 100 Christians killed by Boku Haram in Nigeria the same day. Neither is right but the disproportionate reporting stands out because it is commonplace in one place and not in the other

Here we go its the "us against them" mode again. Religion is irrelevant. An extremist is an extremist, it doesn't matter if they are muslim or far right. The bloke who chose to shoot up the Mosque in Christchurch gave himself a global platform by live streaming on facebook, naturally it went viral within a few hours. The attacks in Paris and London (7/7) received similar mainstream media coverage.

[A11M11]

Religion is irrelevent ?
I wish it was , I saw through it at about 10 years old . Nice stories about right and wrong but corrupted for the desire for control and power. Rather like the E.U.

, the new referendum splits the Brexit vote asunder by not asking again in or out but offering several options on Brexit ie Norway plus ,Hard Brexit ,Brino exit OR option 4 Remain in the EU. Option 4 wins even if opts 1-2-3 get more votes.

Of course to follow democracy to it's end the vote should be to revoke article 50 to renegotiate for a limited time ( 6 months )or to leave without a deal.

[Herd]

Jacinda Ahern is a fucking useless Pm ask the people of NZ and is currently milking the killings there for all it's worth ,no wonder you like her Nut , Me I always preferred Caroline Ahern ,even though she's dead she talks more sense than Jacinda !

Herd I really wonder about you at times. I had to look up a poll that had taken place before the shootings, and not surprisingly she is streets ahead of the opposition even though effectively there is a coalition government,

If you compare how Ahern has handled the Christchurch shootings with TM handled the Grenfell Fire for example, how can you honestly say she is milking it, seriously? She is doing her job showing strong leadership, compassion and being a stateswoman. Theresa May after Grenfell went to visit the fucking fireman, do you expect Ahern to visit the police instead of the victims? In an era where we have populists who divide, you can't have a pop at someone who has done her best to bring different communities together. The world needs more people like her. Jeez.

Don't pollute this thread with NZ crap just as the Brexit shit gets interesting or start another thread with terrorism by countries,nutters,et all !.

[Jock Gooner]

Apparently there was a million people marching in London to stay in the EU. Now in fairness that is a lot of people isn't it.....a MILLION. That's a big old number. About the number of people more who voted to leave than remain funnily enough so there's the real value of a million people.

Here's a thought. Why don't we give democracy a propert try. Respect the vote and leave. IF it turns out to be the end of the world which nobody fucking knows either way then we just rejoin. We lose our current terms - so what. All you Europeeps out there would be back in the fold and if we have to pay a few extra billion into the coffers so fucking what. But then again if things worked out then that would be ok too.

[corkbarry]

Our biggest fear is that ye will drag us down with ye

[Gunner Rob]

Apparently there was a million people marching in London to stay in the EU. Now in fairness that is a lot of people isn't it.....a MILLION. That's a big old number. About the number of people more who voted to leave than remain funnily enough so there's the real value of a million people.

Here's a thought. Why don't we give democracy a propert try. Respect the vote and leave. IF it turns out to be the end of the world which nobody fucking knows either way then we just rejoin. We lose our current terms - so what. All you Europeeps out there would be back in the fold and if we have to pay a few extra billion into the coffers so fucking what. But then again if things worked out then that would be ok too.

ok fair enough
and what version of Leave do you prefer ?

[Herd]

I have no idea if there was a million there and neither does the people saying there was. I've seen selective counting done before.
And what difference does it make . None.

[Gunner Rob]

I have no idea if there was a million there and neither does the people saying there was. I've seen selective counting done before.
And what difference does it make . None.

you don't know that for sure though.

MPs will be starting to worry about holding onto their seats at the next election.
they would do well not to ignore the size of that crowd on Saturday - it was far far bigger than the 700,000 strong crowd back in October.

[Herd]

I have no idea if there was a million there and neither does the people saying there was. I've seen selective counting done before.
And what difference does it make . None.

you don't know that for sure though.

MPs will be starting to worry about holding onto their seats at the next election.
they would do well not to ignore the size of that crowd on Saturday - it was far far bigger than the 700,000 strong crowd back in October.

Rob ,one of the problems that both Political Parties hve had for the last three years has been that 17 million voted out .
Neither Party wanted out but the Brexit vote cut across party lines.
Since the vote both parties have struggled to keep feet in both camps whilst dreaming up ways to thwart a democratic referendum but not to be seen to do it .
They have both failed miserably but now with the stitch up as I have described above about to happen this whole issue will be put to bed fairly quickly now although there's bound to be some more high drama b4 it happens .
We are not leaving the EU and that's a very sad day for this country which will become another brick in the federal states of Europe wall.

It was very revealing to hear Amber Rudd moaning about May not consulting her cabinet about what was going on about Brexit .
May is clearly being given her instructions from elsewhere ,people with real power who direct Prime ministers and nations like Pawns round a chess board . Cabinet ministers are less than pawns to these people .

[A11M11]

MPs will be starting to worry about holding onto their seats at the next election.

Looks like a complete clear out then if you lot want to get rid of all leavers and the leave campaigns are already deselecting remain MP's there will be no-one left.

Not that it will matter because if we stay once Brussels has taken complete control Westminster will be about as useful as your local parish council with decisions being overturned at the behest of the R$othschild family that Herd eluded to.

[Gunner Rob]

MPs will be starting to worry about holding onto their seats at the next election.

Looks like a complete clear out then if you lot want to get rid of all leavers and the leave campaigns are already deselecting remain MP's there will be no-one left.

Not that it will matter because if we stay once Brussels has taken complete control Westminster will be about as useful as your local parish council with decisions being overturned at the behest of the R$othschild family that Herd eluded to.

hahaha, Westminster will retain its power if we stay in.

haven't you yet realised that if we leave we would have 27 EU countries telling us what to do ???
7 out of our top 10 trading partners are EU countries. we HAVE to do deals with them, but once outside the EU they really could do without us.
they are not going to miss 1 country, but we will definitely miss 7 !