As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
MutleyGooner wrote:Yes we were very poor tonight in all areas of the pitch and to be honest, I think Ipswich deserved the win. This was their match of the season and I hope their fans really enjoy their moment. That said however, it is only halftime and I honestly expect us to beat them back at the Grove. Had we gone there and beat them 5 or 6 nil, then next weeks game would have been a formality and the atmosphere at the Grove would be as so often is the case, embarrassingly poor. At least now the second leg should make for a cracking game and something for the fans to get noisy about. I reckon we will put at least 3 past them.
p.s No I haven't joined the rosetinters, just believe we are capable of beating the tractor boys
I think that next weeks game is actually the FA Cup replay against that other Championship side Leeds......but I see your point! The Ipswich game is two weeks time.
However, absolutely no guarantee that he'll play a stronger team than he did tonight.....
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Arsenal 1991 wrote:I want guardiola as our manager. He would absolutely turn these players into winners. Barca's tactics are spot on.
You are willfully deluding yourself. Might he have more success with the core of this team if he were able to add the missing parts as he needed and wanted to? Maybe. But you are just being dishonest with yourself if you beleive any top manager if given the option to invest in better players would even bother with Denilson and Bendtner and Eboue and Squillaci and Vela and Koscielny (as first-choicein Kos's case) and you can add in Rosicky and maybe Diaby and Fabianski.
There is no manager who would do much better if any better with this squad unless much better for you is winning the beer cup.
See, Martin?
This is why I have issues with you.
"Willfully deluding yourself".
"Being dishonest with yourself".
Just because somebody has an opinion that differs from your own.
Can you not see how insulting this is??????
Can you not see if someone makes baseless or unproven statements and presents them as objective facts and igniores evidence that questions or disproves them that is willfully deluding oneself. What would call that out of simple curiosity?
If someone staes categorically as fact somehting they do not know is true and cannot know to be true are they not being dishonest with themselves at the very least? Again what would you call that?
He states repeatedly as fact that Mr. Wenger is holding the team back and implies that is his choice to do that without evidence supporting that at all or willfully overlooking evidence that does not. And I am sorry when you refuse to consider evidence that has independent sources simply because it does not support your convictions you are willfully deluding yourself and others even. Just look at his posts here and tell me what he stated that is categorically true or he has proven to be categorically or even thoeretcially true and what evidence he has presented to do that?
Chips and Chocolate wrote:Well done Ipswich, that was fully deserved... As for the c**ts wearing the shirt of the club I love, fuck off!!!
Congratulations to Ipswich on a deserved win.
Tonight i'm not going to have a pop at Wenger, I lay the blame fully at the door of the imposters in yellow who shamed our club tonight with an awful performance.
Agree 100% with this....that team we put out tonight should have been good enough to beat Ipswich end of and i think most people would agree with that.It's time the players started taking responsiblity---every time they have a chance to make a statement of intent they bottle it.
Disappointed the way the team werent up for the fight tonight and just hoping we can overturn it in the 2nd leg.Too many big players didnt perform tonight,Wilshire,Cesc,Arshavin.And Gibbs was woeful-people calling for him to replace Clichy on the back of a few decent Carling Cup games need to wise up i think-he's done nothing in an Arsenal shirt to show he should have Clichy's spot in our first XI
Just got home from the game - Thank you for making my next 2 weeks hell Arsene as a Gooner living in Suffolk.
No passion
No pride
No committment to winning the ball back.
Half hearted jogging back to defend.
No invention
No attempt to take players on (even when they have been booked Theo)
The lack of application from some was shocking.
Ipswich had a couple of close calls prior to the goal - it was there for all to see. Well done to them.
I didn't hear any chants at all of "Only 1 Arsene Wenger"
Absolute pile of shite.................. I'm off to bed.
StuartL wrote:Just got home from the game - Thank you for making my next 2 weeks hell Arsene as a Gooner living in Suffolk.
No passion
No pride
No committment to winning the ball back.
Half hearted jogging back to defend.
No invention
No attempt to take players on (even when they have been booked Theo)
The lack of application from some was shocking.
Ipswich had a couple of close calls prior to the goal - it was there for all to see. Well done to them.
I didn't hear any chants at all of "Only 1 Arsene Wenger"
Absolute pile of shite.................. I'm off to bed.
Stuart mate. I am so, so sorry for letting you use my memberships. I'll make it up to you one day, I really will..... !
StuartL wrote: I didn't hear any chants at all of "Only 1 Arsene Wenger"
Pat Rice will be singing it into Turnip's ear all the way home. Those to gormless idiots were made to look like mugs by Ipswich reserve manager. Manager of the decade?? Ha ha ha pass me the pills they're on.
Wenger said after the game "I believe we will turn it around but we got a good warning tonight that we have to produce a different performance".
Is anyone else amazed that the "good warning" didn't come when it took pretty much the same group of players until the last minute to equalise against Leeds last weekend.....?
Djourou and Koscielny good as individual athletes but played far too high a line and paid the price.
Of the better players:
Actually thought Denilson had a good combative game by his standards.
Szczesney did little wrong but lucky to get away with "almost" handling it outside area.
Walcott worked hard and had at least one good shot well saved but some of his end product was poor.
Wilshere and Gibbs not too bad.
Connor Wickham looks very good, sign him up Arsene!
Arshavin clearly wants out of Arsenal, and the difference between the teams was one playing with pride the other playing for a massive, undeserved pay cheque. WANKERS!!!!!!!
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