WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

[donaldo]

Still think we should but Dmebele from fulham - he reminds me of PV4.

He's coming to North London.He is joining the Spuds

[northbank123]

The greedy fucker is taking the piss asking for £100k/w. Only in football does somebody who performs consistently poorly at their job in an enterprise that has performed well below par for years come too his employers expecting a huge raise.

At the end of the day he doesn't like the pressure of playing week in week out and knows his days are numbered as a starter for AFC with the Ox on the rise, he's learned more than anybody he's never going to be consistent. Guess he figures he might as well make out that HE is too good for AFC and to the same thing sitting on the bench for City or Liverpool for 50-100% more cash.

[Babatunde]

Sell RVP to ManYoo.
Sell Theo to a domestic rival after investing £12 mil in him and spending years investing cash on wages.
Sell Song after years wasted on him, telling us he'd come good.

£8 mil profit to magically turn to £20n.
Just as with Song, Theo is poor but the replacement will be worse.

Apparently, all these players who've been responsible for Arsenal winning nothing for the past 7 years need to do one; but the actual person responsible for signing, paying and playing these wasters, is immune from getting the chop eh?
Ridiculous.

The club knew Walcott wouldn't sign but thought they'd leave it until the final week to milk the profits. Whole club is an utter joke. There's no planning, Wenger hasn't got a clue what he's doing. 3 key players sold in the off-season, new team brought in, relying on two unproven "goalscorers" to see through a season, no cutting edge etc...
Losing player after player, after player
I thought Wenger was all about stability?

It's a pathetic scattergun approach with fuck all trophies.
Shit manager.

[Babatunde]

Always cracks me up
"Who does Theo think he is, asking for £100k"

Question: who was the who gave Walcott a mega-contract on £60k a week in 2009, more money than a top striker like David Villa was on at the time in Valencia?
And you wonder where Walcott gets the sense of entitlement from!

[Robin_L]

Bit desperate selling our top 3 offensive players from last season.

Walcott isn't worth £100k but who's to say for sure that's the case? Doesn't seem an agitator to me, a level-headed guy. Alternatively he's been planning to fuck off for months and sees the ideal opportunity to bail post-van Persie/Song.

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

[QuartzGooner]

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

Not that old chestnut.

Ever thought that Wenger uses Dein to sell off players to raise cash?
That paying off our debt is more important than winning the title, as long as we keep a minimum level of Champions League qualification?
Wenger is still good friends with Dein Sr.

No agent in history has forced a player to move.

[swimmer1]

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

Not that old chestnut.

Ever thought that Wenger uses Dein to sell off players to raise cash?
That paying off our debt is more important than winning the title, as long as we keep a minimum level of Champions League qualification?
Wenger is still good friends with Dein Sr.

No agent in history has forced a player to move.

Are we in that much debt thought we had a least 109 mill in the bank doing fuck all but gathering dust .?

[augie]

Ok somebody put this walnut to citeeh rumour up but is there a link ? Is this just another piece of wishful thinking from the feo bashers on here (I am president of that club btw ) ? I think that it is far too much to expect the club to get shot of song, Wally and Billy big bollix bentner in this transfer window isn't it ? Please god can you make that happen and if you can arrange diaby and shitatchi to fcuk off as well then I swear I will return to religion again

Btw has any price been mentioned ? I know it is citeeh and the temptation is to try to screw them for every last penny but I don't want this potential deal to collapse so just accept anything north of £12m I would suggest If we get get de Jong Inc in the deal then so much the better.......he might be a thug but he would be OUR THUG

[mcdowell42]

Ok somebody put this walnut to citeeh rumour up but is there a link ? Is this just another piece of wishful thinking from the feo bashers on here (I am president of that club btw ) ? I think that it is far too much to expect the club to get shot of song, Wally and Billy big bollix bentner in this transfer window isn't it ? Please god can you make that happen and if you can arrange diaby and shitatchi to fcuk off as well then I swear I will return to religion again

its on twitter so has to be cast iron augie

[northbank123]

Ok somebody put this walnut to citeeh rumour up but is there a link ? Is this just another piece of wishful thinking from the feo bashers on here (I am president of that club btw ) ? I think that it is far too much to expect the club to get shot of song, Wally and Billy big bollix bentner in this transfer window isn't it ? Please god can you make that happen and if you can arrange diaby and shitatchi to fcuk off as well then I swear I will return to religion again

Btw has any price been mentioned ? I know it is citeeh and the temptation is to try to screw them for every last penny but I don't want this potential deal to collapse so just accept anything north of £12m I would suggest If we get get de Jong Inc in the deal then so much the better.......he might be a thug but he would be OUR THUG

If we got de Jong for Theo that would be a dream, exactly the kind of player we need right now (or Diarra wouldn't be bad either, remember him AW? ). Plus the added bonus that he would duly go and break RvP, Theo and any other ex-Gooners we played.

Can't happen because:

a) No pressure on City to sell, he's probably content to pick up his wages there and not like they need the money (or Theo).
b) He's still in their plans, is one injury away from being a key player again and as shown towards the back end of last season an important tactical pawn for Mancini.
c) IT MAKES TOO MUCH FUCKING SENSE FOR US TO DO IT.

[QuartzGooner]

Ok somebody put this walnut to citeeh rumour up but is there a link ?

http://www.too-lazy-to-use-google-and-type-in-theowalcott-is-it-because-he-has-had-too-many-beers

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=46168

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/342682

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 84856.html

http://www.epltalk.com/theo-walcott-rej ... PL+Talk%29

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... senal-deal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... tract.html

http://www.theshortfuse.com/2012/8/28/3 ... ester-city

[Robin_L]

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

Not that old chestnut.

Ever thought that Wenger uses Dein to sell off players to raise cash?
That paying off our debt is more important than winning the title, as long as we keep a minimum level of Champions League qualification?
Wenger is still good friends with Dein Sr.

No agent in history has forced a player to move.

I wouldn't be so sure, Dein and his ilk will have loyalty only to his own pocket, not the club of his family. I really don't think in this instance Wenger used Dein to get Song out of the club, I think it's far more likely Song and his "people" engineered the move because it's best for Song and makes his hangers-on a lot of money.

Top level agents are fucking us over time and again and it seems to be a select few that are doing it. The club should goto lengths to keep these *word censored* away from our new players in the future, if at all possible.

[Robin_L]

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

Not that old chestnut.

Ever thought that Wenger uses Dein to sell off players to raise cash?
That paying off our debt is more important than winning the title, as long as we keep a minimum level of Champions League qualification?
Wenger is still good friends with Dein Sr.

No agent in history has forced a player to move.

I wouldn't be so sure, Dein and his ilk will have loyalty only to his own pocket, not the club of his family. I really don't think in this instance Wenger used Dein to get Song out of the club, I think it's far more likely Song and his "people" engineered the move because it's best for Song and makes his hangers-on a lot of money.

Top level agents are fucking us over time and again and it seems to be a select few that are doing it. The club should goto lengths to keep these *word censored* away from our new players in the future, if at all possible.

[QuartzGooner]

I don't know who his agent is but surely it's not Kees Vos or Darren Dein again, they need banning from the club.

Not that old chestnut.

Ever thought that Wenger uses Dein to sell off players to raise cash?
That paying off our debt is more important than winning the title, as long as we keep a minimum level of Champions League qualification?
Wenger is still good friends with Dein Sr.

No agent in history has forced a player to move.

I wouldn't be so sure, Dein and his ilk will have loyalty only to his own pocket, not the club of his family. I really don't think in this instance Wenger used Dein to get Song out of the club, I think it's far more likely Song and his "people" engineered the move because it's best for Song and makes his hangers-on a lot of money.

Top level agents are fucking us over time and again and it seems to be a select few that are doing it. The club should go to lengths to keep these *word censored* away from our new players in the future, if at all possible.

Dein likes to make money, all agents do, and most of that comes when players move clubs or renew contracts.

We are no more or less "done over" by agents than any other club.
Sales of our main players each summer since 2006 are a direct result of the stadium debt.

Dein has no reason to "target" us as a club other than if he represents players at our club.
Dein is no worse than other agents, in fact if figures are to be reported then he is good at his job, getting Henry a £5M signing on fee up front to renew his contract.

I have read on a number of blogs that Dein Jr is trying to get our players to leave so he can get revenge at the board for sacking his dad.
This accusation is bloggers who should know better, putting two and two together to come up with five.

It makes no sense if you consider that his dad is trying to get back in the club...why would he want to weaken it?
Yes I know that officially Usmanov has parted ways with Dein...but I suspect Dein would jump at the chance if offered a role in an Usmanov owned board.
It would also do Usmanov no favours if he was seen to be a force trying to strip players away from the club to smear Kroenke...fans may want Kroenke out but not the club weakened at the same time!
Sure, the share price might fall if we fall down the table, but ultimately the shares are worth how much someone wants to pay for them, and if that someone is Usmanov trying to buy out Krooenke, then Kroenke will only sell for a profit he is happy with.
Usmanov and David Dein trying to weaken us into a mid-table club would only give them a bigger headache if they take over.

You give too much credence to Darren Dein for making players leave; bottom line is players have the ultimate say, Dein can act as a catalyst, but not force the players out.
Players are mostly in it for the money and if they can be paid better elsewhere then they will move in most cases; occasionally a player wishes to stay in a certain city or is a boyhood fan of a club or will stay at/move to a certain club which is winning trophies or in the Champions League (i.e. Arteta who took a wage cut to come to us ) but in general their career is short, high rate tax is high, interests rates low and wifey wants new clothes, so players follow the money.

We have now done enough deals with Darren Dein or with agents that Darren Dein was advising...if there was a problem then Wenger could refuse to do business but he clearly has continued to do business with Darren Dein ...and as I suggest...is likely in partnership with him to raise that cash every year if possible.

We are a business; buy cheap or medium, sell as high as possible.

[Gunnersaurus]

Wouldn't be so sure about De Jong not coming, like Walcott he is in the last year of his contract (or close to it) and is not signing what's on offer.

He would be an amazing signing but reckon a better club would come in for him.