As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Babatunde wrote:But hold on Flash so you're against us taking players, developing them, andhanding them of to big clubs?
Do the names of Nasri, Clchy, Anelka, Van Persie, Song, Flamini etc mean anything??
Even with Cazorla now I am fully expectinhhim to move to Citeh within a year. If he turns out good Citeh or Manure will pinch him because that is what this club does. It develops players for the big boys. Don't deny it please! So you don't seem to have a problem with it otherwise so where's the problem now?
Who's denying it Baba? and i have a massive problem with us being a selling club so please don't try to label me with incorrect assumptions. The point i was making is when you loan a player (like the lower league teams do for us) is to directly enhance their future with no end product for the loanee club not even an eventual transfer fee which is the only thing to come out of us selling the list you wrote (and the FACT that it isnt spent or spent incorrectly is another matter)
As i said on another thread don't let your hatred of Arsenal cloud your mind and read what people write don't read into what they are not writing
You still seemto have problems distinguishing between my hatred of Wenger and a hatred of Arsenal.
My hatred is for Wenger.
Although I can understand how you could make the mistake of equating Wenger, to Arsenal itself
Babatunde wrote:Hold on. Are you fucking serious? Sahin might be joining Liverpool?
Wenger has spent the past 2 weeks haggling over a £14 mil buy-on clause that he allegedly wanted reduced to £11 million? Despite Arsenal being £8 mil in profit without even touching its transfer facility yet? Could this manager and club be anymore of a joke if this is the case?? Aclub that cannot offer CL football is likely to beat Arsenal with our show-off claims of '15 years in the CL' to Sahin?
I cannot fucking believe this is the case. Surely, surely, Sahin isn't going there. Not after all the sell-offs of our best players, not after all the Wenger lies, not after all the cash the club rakes in from gormless punters. He will join Arsenal. Piresistible and 1989 said it's happening and I believe them.
Chill the fuck out.
I am chilled. I said Sahin will join. There's no way he will join the victims. Read what I said pls...
Babatunde wrote:But hold on Flash so you're against us taking players, developing them, andhanding them of to big clubs?
Do the names of Nasri, Clchy, Anelka, Van Persie, Song, Flamini etc mean anything??
Even with Cazorla now I am fully expectinhhim to move to Citeh within a year. If he turns out good Citeh or Manure will pinch him because that is what this club does. It develops players for the big boys. Don't deny it please! So you don't seem to have a problem with it otherwise so where's the problem now?
Who's denying it Baba? and i have a massive problem with us being a selling club so please don't try to label me with incorrect assumptions. The point i was making is when you loan a player (like the lower league teams do for us) is to directly enhance their future with no end product for the loanee club not even an eventual transfer fee which is the only thing to come out of us selling the list you wrote (and the FACT that it isnt spent or spent incorrectly is another matter)
As i said on another thread don't let your hatred of Arsenal cloud your mind and read what people write don't read into what they are not writing
You still seemto have problems distinguishing between my hatred of Wenger and a hatred of Arsenal.
My hatred is for Wenger.
Although I can understand how you could make the mistake of equating Wenger, to Arsenal itself
Youre making WRONG assumptions again Baba im no Arsene fan but what i knock him on is the FACTs and there is enough of them about not made up shit
Babatunde wrote:Hold on. Are you fucking serious? Sahin might be joining Liverpool?
Wenger has spent the past 2 weeks haggling over a £14 mil buy-on clause that he allegedly wanted reduced to £11 million? Despite Arsenal being £8 mil in profit without even touching its transfer facility yet? Could this manager and club be anymore of a joke if this is the case?? Aclub that cannot offer CL football is likely to beat Arsenal with our show-off claims of '15 years in the CL' to Sahin?
I cannot fucking believe this is the case. Surely, surely, Sahin isn't going there. Not after all the sell-offs of our best players, not after all the Wenger lies, not after all the cash the club rakes in from gormless punters. He will join Arsenal. Piresistible and 1989 said it's happening and I believe them.
Chill the fuck out.
I am chilled. I said Sahin will join. There's no way he will join the victims. Read what I said pls...
He would do. Tbh anyone would given our second choice.
One thing I disagree with you on Baba is the attack being weaker. Yes RVP is a loss, but I would say that we look to have a few more options with goals this year.
Also, you talk a lot of sense but please stop just pulling things from the air and stating them as fact, we all know where that got you with the whole Kalou debacle.
goonersid wrote:Don't know if has been posted elsewhere, and I can't be arsed to look, interesting though.
Players who have quit Arsenal over the last seven years have amassed 44 winners' medals between them at 11 different clubs, while those who stayed at the Emirates have empty trophy cabinets.
That fact is ridiculous as well. You can attribute such things to so many clubs, its just the thing to do to knock Arsenal with it. I bet they count Fabregas' two medals that are about as prestigious as the Charity shield.
rigsby wrote:That fact is ridiculous as well. You can attribute such things to so many clubs, its just the thing to do to knock Arsenal with it. I bet they count Fabregas' two medals that are about as prestigious as the Charity shield.
But the report does highlight the fact we are selling our best players over the last 5 years and that alone should ring alarm bells Arsenal need to stop this trend and spend some fucking money to show we got some ambition and stop all this FFP bollocks .
Baster journalists - according to reports in germany - what reports?
anyhow this doesnt happen im going to find that tawt who wrote it and plagerize his work from then on.
im leaning towards what flash has been saying - about the option to buy him at the end...otherwise he can go to pool for the loan.
goonersid wrote:Don't know if has been posted elsewhere, and I can't be arsed to look, interesting though.
Players who have quit Arsenal over the last seven years have amassed 44 winners' medals between them at 11 different clubs, while those who stayed at the Emirates have empty trophy cabinets.
Someone posted the source earlier mate, from SSN in Germany. Still rubbish journalism.
But the report does highlight the fact we are selling our best players over the last 5 years and that alone should ring alarm bells Arsenal need to stop this trend and spend some fucking money to show we got some ambition and stop all this FFP bollocks .
Mate I agree to a point with the spending aspect, but on the player side you you can level the criticism that these players underachieved at Arsenal. If they've gone on to be so successful there was obviously something wrong with them at ours. And people can level the 'shit that surrounded them' but essentially they were a team of bottlers.