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Re: Rumours, Rumours, Rumours but all of them a load of old

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Hilarious how issing out on the signing of Sahin is being seen as 'good news' by Wenger's hordes. Hilarious.

So let's get this right.

Ditching RVP was 'good news, shows Arsene is getting tough'
As was ditching 'proven losers' Cesc, Nasri and Clichy (and replacing them with speeding for KFC Santos, Song...ooops he gone! and errr...Arteta (who is inferior to Cesc).

Appartnyl missing out on Sahin 'shows Arsene is after a long term option'.

It couldn't alternatively mean could it, that Wenger has done everything he can to deliberately piss Real Madrid off so the transfer stalls and he can turn round and say 'I almost signed Sahin'...hence saving the cash on wages, and entrusting his faith in Diabolical and Wilshere (who will be announced injured again on September 1 and 12.01 am, you watch)...

:roll:

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Post by Rohan »

Looks like we are wasting our time on Sahin, Get in some like M'villa,we look more balanced.

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We haven't missed out on him though, he's turned down Spurs and Liverpool already, we all know this, it's just taking time for 2 reasons, 1) Arsenals usual transfer dealing crapness and 2) There is bad blood between Wenger and Mourhino, did anyone expect it to be easy?

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Babatunde wrote:Hilarious how issing out on the signing of Sahin is being seen as 'good news' by Wenger's hordes. Hilarious.

So let's get this right.

Ditching RVP was 'good news, shows Arsene is getting tough'
As was ditching 'proven losers' Cesc, Nasri and Clichy (and replacing them with speeding for KFC Santos, Song...ooops he gone! and errr...Arteta (who is inferior to Cesc).

Appartnyl missing out on Sahin 'shows Arsene is after a long term option'.

It couldn't alternatively mean could it, that Wenger has done everything he can to deliberately piss Real Madrid off so the transfer stalls and he can turn round and say 'I almost signed Sahin'...hence saving the cash on wages, and entrusting his faith in Diabolical and Wilshere (who will be announced injured again on September 1 and 12.01 am, you watch)...

:roll:

Agree if Sahin is that good sign him for the season worry about the rest later why the fuck are we worried about if it puts more coppers into Madrid thought the whole idea of loans is to help the player and the team who want's that player

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Re: Rumours, Rumours, Rumours but all of them a load of old

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Darren Dein such a villain?

I do not buy it.

A friend of mine suggested the following which makes a lot of sense -

That Darren Dein is helping Arsene Wenger.

1.) Arsene knows we need to raise roughly £20M per season to pay off the stadium bond.
It also looks to me like the club are stashing surplus cash in the bank to have the balance of the bond in effect "paid off", even though they can only pay it off in installments until 2031 or risk financial penalties.

So what better way to raise cash than selling off players?

2.) Wenger is close to the Dein family.
Very handy that Darren Dein is a facilitator in player transfers through being a commercial advisor, even if he is actually registered as an agent or not in every deal he is involved in.

3.) Wenger identifies players to move on, and Dein helps him move them off. The club profits.

4.) This does not happen in every case, as sometimes it might be against the club's wishes..i.e. RvP.

5.) But it matters not, as long as the club raises it's money, and pays off the stadium bonds, then it can get to a position where it either has a semblance of a chance of fighting for honours, or can make a nice profit for the owner if/when he sells his shares.

Besides, a very viable case can be made for each player leaving.

Henry - knew his time was up as a regular in the Premiership, back injury, time to move on.

Adebayor - Good riddance!

Clichy - Was struggling for form for two seasons.

Nasri - Bit of a hot head, had a good half season, might as well cash in.

Cesc - Was always going back to Barcelona at some point.

RvP - Perhaps this was genuinely unplanned, but we got a good price.

Song - I thank you very much Mr Dein and Mr Wenger, his sale has helped us!

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green gooner wrote:Did Darren Dein go out with Rachel Stevens at one time :?: , if so then surely he must claw back a few points for that alone :!:

He must put a gun to the heads of all these players and tell them to leave or slse :box: and they must have no mind of their own :roll:


I would fcuking love to shag the arse off her 8) There is a few drinks in it for anybody that can help make that happen :wink: :lol:

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Post by Leyton Gooner »

FFS everyone knows about the animosity between Mourinho and Wenger, surely no one more so than Arsenal. So why are Arsenal being such *word censored* about this deal, it's only a loan FFS. If we really want him just agree to what Madrid are offering and go from there after this season.

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Leyton Gooner wrote:FFS everyone knows about the animosity between Mourinho and Wenger, surely no one more so than Arsenal. So why are Arsenal being such *word censored* about this deal, it's only a loan FFS. If we really want him just agree to what Madrid are offering and go from there after this season.
its easy for trhe akb mongs to blame it on madrid and Mourinho

its us who are holding this up . Well Wonger

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augie wrote:
green gooner wrote:Did Darren Dein go out with Rachel Stevens at one time :?: , if so then surely he must claw back a few points for that alone :!:

He must put a gun to the heads of all these players and tell them to leave or slse :box: and they must have no mind of their own :roll:


I would fcuking love to shag the arse off her 8) There is a few drinks in it for anybody that can help make that happen :wink: :lol:


She might actually prefer to be made love to the other way around augie. :oops: :lol:

But, maybe she is 'old school' too, eh? :rubchin: :D

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mikeyb772001 wrote:
Leyton Gooner wrote:FFS everyone knows about the animosity between Mourinho and Wenger, surely no one more so than Arsenal. So why are Arsenal being such *word censored* about this deal, it's only a loan FFS. If we really want him just agree to what Madrid are offering and go from there after this season.
its easy for trhe akb mongs to blame it on madrid and Mourinho

its us who are holding this up . Well Wonger
My point exactly

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Agree if Sahin is that good sign him for the season worry about the rest later
Because if we don't then in a year we will all moan that we didn't have a signing clause. I get why Arsenal want it.

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Re: Rumours, Rumours, Rumours but all of them a load of old

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Drove past the training ground this afternoon. Loads of photographers waiting outside the entrance.

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Nuri Sahin talks to Liverpool as Arsene Wenger cools off



"The Arsenal manager is considering other midfield options amid concerns over whether Sahin could perform an orthodox holding role."


:rubchin: :rubchin:

Full article in Evening Standard. James Olley. :box: :lol:



Same article includes, " Inter Milan are thought to be leading the race to sign Denmark international striker Nicklas Bendtner."

Snigger, then full gut laugh. Mugs.
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SantaPoldi wrote:Drove past the training ground this afternoon. Loads of photographers waiting outside the entrance.
Where Anfield

:D

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Post by Leyton Gooner »

Bollocks. Since when has Wenger wanted someone to perform an "orthodox holding role". Since no one knows what's been going on for the past fortnight, my reckoning is that we're haggling over the loan fee or wages or some shite. Can't imagine Wenger wanting an option to spend some money next summer either. How ironic would that be if it is the reason for this breakdown?

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