As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
franksav63 wrote:
Can't you just for once stop digging me fucking out....
Erm, ok
Of all the posts I write on this forum, only a minute fraction are replying to you, so if you feel I'm somehow stalking your posts, you're mistaken mate.
Having said that, I'm currently in your back garden defiling your gnomes
Steve_I wrote:... I feel that the only people who have told me that it is a bad thing we haven't bought yet and haven't got this player/that player/this or that position covered are people of little consequence - namely folk on the internetz who's self perpetuating and increasing anxiety is all too easily contagious and also, in many ways, misplaced because it's a handy stick with which to beat our manager.(my opinion of course and not one shared I guess by many here).
So do you actually believe it's NOT 'a bad thing' that we haven't bought any of the much needed quality with just 2 days until the start of the season, despite almost 3 months having elapsed since the end of the last one? And does the list of people whose views you consider to be 'of little consequence' and choose to 'ignore' also include former players like Parlour, Frank McClintock, Wrighty, Merson, Keown, Winterburn, Robson, Alan Smith and current players like Wilshere, Arteta and Poldoski, plus many others who have been involved in football for a very long time - who have all come out and said we need to strengthen to challenge?
Still, I can understand why you wouldn't want to listen to others when you have arsenal.com and its plethora of 'on the pay-roll' contributors to rely on!!
rodders999 wrote:How anyone can still think he should be manager of Arsenal Football Club is beyond me but for those of you that do please refer to the following IMMEDIATELY -
Fortunately, for me, this IS my area of expertise and I know the act extremely well and can categorically state that the chances of the act being appropriate are 'nil'.
rodders999 wrote:How anyone can still think he should be manager of Arsenal Football Club is beyond me but for those of you that do please refer to the following IMMEDIATELY -
Fortunately, for me, this IS my area of expertise and I know the act extremely well and can categorically state that the chances of the act being appropriate are 'nil'.
Steve_I wrote:... I feel that the only people who have told me that it is a bad thing we haven't bought yet and haven't got this player/that player/this or that position covered are people of little consequence - namely folk on the internetz who's self perpetuating and increasing anxiety is all too easily contagious and also, in many ways, misplaced because it's a handy stick with which to beat our manager.(my opinion of course and not one shared I guess by many here).
So do you actually believe it's NOT 'a bad thing' that we haven't bought any of the much needed quality with just 2 days until the start of the season, despite almost 3 months having elapsed since the end of the last one? And does the list of people whose views you consider to be 'of little consequence' and choose to 'ignore' also include former players like Parlour, Frank McClintock, Wrighty, Merson, Keown, Winterburn, Robson, Alan Smith and current players like Wilshere, Arteta and Poldoski, plus many others who have been involved in football for a very long time - who have all come out and said we need to strengthen to challenge?
Still, I can understand why you wouldn't want to listen to others when you have arsenal.com and its plethora of 'on the pay-roll' contributors to rely on!!
Herd, I have said quite clearly our squad needs supplementing as it stands, in my post. My comment re 'the internetz' tho' was more to suggest how I feel the anxiety evident among many is self fuelling and self perpetuating in many ways, particularly on certain forum/blogs etc as it becomes easier for folk to say, the more other folk say it. I feel that while a lot of passion and genuine ill feeling exists (of course to my mind ill informed in some respects) such stuff can be very contagious and leading to some others.
I am also aware, however, that of current Arsenal Players who reportedly said such a thing to which you refer, said so to the same journalist as he freely acknowledged on his twitter, whils tthey were in Asia. Not for me to suggest journo's would ask leading questions of course but... darn I suggested it.
g88ner wrote:Yes, good post Steve (even if I disagree with much of it)
As frustrated (and worried) as I am, I still maintain that this window is neither a success nor failure until the window closes and we can assess the state of our squad relative to the one that finished last season and relative to our rivals. Until then, it's difficult to judge as clubs do business at different times, which skews any comparison.
The only caveat to that is that the season starts with a pocket of fixtures before the window shuts (Villa (h), Fenerbache (a), Fulham (a), Fenerbache (h) and Sp*rs (h) ) that could heavily impact on our season. If the results are poor, then regardless of who we eventually bring in, we may be playing catch up and - worst case - out the CL.
Wenger's taking a huge gamble on our season by leaving things so late, but we'll have the full picture on September 2nd.
Cheers.
I appreciate your 'caveat' completely and personally feel we are definitely vulnerable to injury regarding obvious replacements if they should prove necessary. I admit I will be only too happy to sigh a bloody big sigh of relief if we have added significantly come Sept 2nd to create that much need cushion/depth which we do not have at present. We had it in numbers but not quality last year and previous ones but it is more apparent now we have been stripped of some/most of the 'poorer quality' chunk of our squad.
g88ner wrote:Yes, good post Steve (even if I disagree with much of it)
As frustrated (and worried) as I am, I still maintain that this window is neither a success nor failure until the window closes and we can assess the state of our squad relative to the one that finished last season and relative to our rivals. Until then, it's difficult to judge as clubs do business at different times, which skews any comparison.
The only caveat to that is that the season starts with a pocket of fixtures before the window shuts (Villa (h), Fenerbache (a), Fulham (a), Fenerbache (h) and Sp*rs (h) ) that could heavily impact on our season. If the results are poor, then regardless of who we eventually bring in, we may be playing catch up and - worst case - out the CL.
Wenger's taking a huge gamble on our season by leaving things so late, but we'll have the full picture on September 2nd.
Cheers.
I appreciate your 'caveat' completely and personally feel we are definitely vulnerable to injury regarding obvious replacements if they should prove necessary. I admit I will be only too happy to sigh a bloody big sigh of relief if we have added significantly come Sept 2nd to create that much need cushion/depth which we do not have at present. We had it in numbers but not quality last year and previous ones but it is more apparent now we have been stripped of some/most of the 'poorer quality' chunk of our squad.
The signings will come, I'm sure. None of us know whats going on behind the scenes.
I'm not the biggest Wenger supporter, but judge him when the windows closed.
Roll on sat.
What stands out to me is that out of the 17 players that have gone, 5 are on loan (we will still be paying a good percentage of their over inflated wages) & of the others, only 2 (and a bit if you count the 'undisclosed fee' for Angha) have we recouped any money from.
That's in excess of £40m on transfer fees alone, without including the bits & pieces for others settled at tribunals or for pre contracts etc. Add to that the wages and realise we are only recouping £10m for them & it shatters the myth we don't spend and that Wenger's a financial expert?
Not to mention that Park & Bendtner are still drawing over £5 million a year combined in wages on top of their joint fees of £4m.......
somethings just never change do they ? - the delusional one is blaming the fans for Gervinho's form and lack of confidence, rather than the obvious (to us. the sane ones...) fact that he played him through the middle and alternated between two CF's on the wing for him
“I made that decision because he looked to play with a lack of confidence, especially at the Emirates,” Wenger said.
“He is a very creative player, an instinctive dribbler and for that you need a lot of confidence to be completely efficient
or to play a winger on the wing, rather than through the middel where he won't get time and space to dribble you moron
clockender1 wrote:somethings just never change do they ? - the delusional one is blaming the fans for Gervinho's form and lack of confidence, rather than the obvious (to us. the sane ones...) fact that he played him through the middle and alternated between two CF's on the wing for him
“I made that decision because he looked to play with a lack of confidence, especially at the Emirates,” Wenger said.
“He is a very creative player, an instinctive dribbler and for that you need a lot of confidence to be completely efficient
or to play a winger on the wing, rather than through the middel where he won't get time and space to dribble you moron
Christ alive, it's the fans fault the Klingon flopped is it? Nothing to do with the fact his 1st touch was a pass and that he had the compusure of a 12 year old girl at a Justin Bieber concert?
Why don't you just ship over all our fans from the Far East since you hold your domestic fans in such contempt?
While I'm glad so much of the dross is gone, all it does is highlight out thin our squad is. I think you need at least two players in every position to help cover things.
It'll be just like the good old days, when injures ruin our season
Ah well, maybe they'll take advantage of the wage bill reduction and lower ticket prices.... yeah right.
