THE WENGER THREAD

[SteveO 35]

Merse on Sky saying if things continue to go down the toilet the fans could hound Wenger out by Christmas

That would be the best Chrimbo pressie fucking EVER!!!!

Dream on - cancel the turkey this year, you're having a festive BBQ of sausages and ribs....especially after tonight's glorious win and another £25m pocketed for Uncle Stan

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[TeeCee]

So it is not kind of an organized fan club?

Yes, the AKB's are organised mate........they have 'I Love AW' T-shirts and everything!!

[Swifty]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

[Swifty]

heard a rumour that wenger get profits from the profit generated ...could that be the reason he is not buying players?

Sounds feasible - a bit of a twist on the arrangements Arry and our George had going.......(allegedly)

[northbank123]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

If we won the league this year then there would still be bitterness and anger at how things have gone since the move - but I think pretty much everyone on here would have to eat a huge slice of humble pie.

It's just not going to happen though. I know that's not really in the spirit of your question but it's an incredibly difficult one to give a realistic answer to because - largely down to Wenger - we have zero chance of winning the league.

[arseofacrow]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Too hypothetical to consider. Wenger won't do this, won't win the league again because signing players is only one piece of the pie.

It needs a completely new approach from board level and management.

Glad to see that AST have finally started seeing things as they are.

[Swifty]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Too hypothetical to consider. Wenger won't do this, won't win the league again because signing players is only one piece of the pie.

It needs a completely new approach from board level and management.

Glad to see that AST have finally started seeing things as they are.

so you are saying there is no outcome that would be satisfactory enough for you to retain wenger?

Given it is likely he will be staying - let me put it another way, what would vindicate that decision in a year's time?

[OneBardGooner]

Question from an outsider....these AKB's you are talking about...what is that for a group? I suppose some official Arsenal members?

AKB = Arsene Knows Best. For all the fans that think he can do nothing wrong!

So it is a blind organized fan club where they are all in illusion?

Exactly Tom! - Couldn't have put it better myself.

[OneBardGooner]

I had no idea we had such an odd deal struck with Southampton over AOC, but it explains why he has been used sporadically. How the hell did this get agreed?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... nutes.html

'Written into the England winger’s deal is a clause stating that Arsenal must pay Saints £10,000 every time Oxlade-Chamberlain appears for more than 20 minutes.

Incredibly a trend emerged, with Wenger bringing him off the bench after 72 minutes (v Stoke), 73 minutes (Liverpool), 72 minutes (Coventry), 65 minutes (Norwich), 76 minutes (Fulham), 86 minutes (Tottenham), 67 minutes (Swansea), 73 minutes (West Ham), 71 minutes (Swansea), and 75 minutes (Reading).

Arsenal’s accounts department were stunned to receive an email from Southampton demanding payment for the appearances, with the south coast club justifying their argument based on stoppage time.'

Well at least we now know why Wenger only plays Pods for 10 - 20 minutes every other game, rather than starting him instead of the inept giroud. I wonder how many other players are on similar 'pay as you stay' contracts !

[arseofacrow]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Too hypothetical to consider. Wenger won't do this, won't win the league again because signing players is only one piece of the pie.

It needs a completely new approach from board level and management.

Glad to see that AST have finally started seeing things as they are.

so you are saying there is no outcome that would be satisfactory enough for you to retain wenger?

Given it is likely he will be staying - let me put it another way, what would vindicate that decision in a year's time?

No, I'm just saying that it's all too hypothteical to conisder - I'm not sure how I can re-word it

If Wenger changed alomost everything about his approach to the club, his relationship to the board, the club changed it's approach...we are not set up to achieve real success, only the success of finishing 4th, therefore it is currently not an issue. And Wenger has things working the ways he wants it so nothing will change on the pitch. The sooner people consider that making signings (and the right ones) are only a small part of a wider, festering problem, the better.

[franksav63]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Let's ask another question, does Wenger really deserve the chance to turn it around? He said in 2009 if he hadn't won anythng in 2 years his project would be deemed as failed... and here we are 4 years down the line still going through the same shit. We need a new manager in, with fresh ideas and with a new team to replace the medical staff,scouting network and coaching staff, Wenger's whole regime needs to be ripped up and consigned to the bin where in belongs!

[foxinthebox2001]

Wenger - "The transfer market starts for me now".
So are we to assume everything thats gone on since July 1st, Higuain, Rooney, Gustavo, Suarez and the rest was just a bit of a giggle? or just a pr stunt to help the sales of season tickets?
Whatever happens now he has made himself look a total tool.
He can sign who he likes, but the fact is he has dithered too much, for too long.
Any club with serious ambitions of winning major cups would have the squad ready before the season starts, the result was 3 points thown away, and lets see if any more are frirttered away at Fulham.
The question would still remain, is Wenger actually committed to spending on new players? or is it just a consequence of the pressure being piled on him by supporters, and probably the Arsenal board.

[Dan_85]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Let's ask another question, does Wenger really deserve the chance to turn it around? He said in 2009 if he hadn't won anythng in 2 years his project would be deemed as failed... and here we are 4 years down the line still going through the same shit. We need a new manager in, with fresh ideas and with a new team to replace the medical staff,scouting network and coaching staff, Wenger's whole regime needs to be ripped up and consigned to the bin where in belongs!

[TurnipMasher]

Let's assume (yes it's a hypothetical) Wenger spends all our money and gets a world class striker, DM, GK and a couple of backs and then we win the league - would this be enough to win you back or is he incapable of resurrection now?

Yes i know it's very unlikely, i'm just interested in what it would take to win everyone back.

For me it would be enough as this is the window I had pinned for a few years now - the one where we actually said we had money - so i had negligible expectation for the past 6 or so years.

Comments?

Like all Gooners I want us to win, but to be honest I'd even be happy if we made a decent attempt and missed out, rather than it being obvious that Wenger/Kronke's ambition goes no higher than the virtual trophy every frigging year, with the obvious sacrifice of the FA/league cup for another weak exit from the CL.
I want to see a return of the Keown 'monkey jump on van-horseface' days, when it looked like the players actually gave a shit, rather than whinging to the ref whenever anything goes the wrong way, but Wenger doesn't have it in him to turn this around and instill in the players the necessary mentality.
If he can do this, cut out all the bullshit, stop being disingenuous and make some astute signings that actually see us realistically challenge then I might start wanting him out less, but he has a loooong way to go yet for me to feel the way I did 8-10 years ago, and I just can't see it happening.
I want Arsenal to be a football club again, rather than an economic experiment.

[Tomáš]

So it is a blind organized fan club where they are all in illusion?

That sentence was not from me in the original posting