The Mesut Özil Thread

[StanKroenke'sWig]

I really am beginning to hate the bloke. He doesn't suit the premier league.

[Riotof91]

Now you know why we didn't #spendsomefuckingmoney for eons

The guy is entering into Reyes & Francis Jeffers territory. Although I'm going to be fair with hold judgement until Wonga stops playing him out of position.

[Dan_85]

Arshavin mk2. Decent player, panic buy, played out of position, started brightly, became disillusioned & uninterested, unmotivated by Wenger, fans turning on him.

[markyp]

one thing that I think we must get used to and stop moaning about is his body language and general approach,everybody says he seems to not give a fuck too often but even against villa where he played a blinder his body language bordered on the side of disinterested,lethargic and lolloping but it seems that this is just the way he is,he cant help it,even when he dribbles he looks laboured,its just him

[goonertux]

Ozil is talented, we all know that, so surely it is the manager playing him out of position that is the problem? I think he would absolutely shine if he played behind Wellbeck with Ox and Walcott either side.

[Gunnersaurus]

Arshavin mk2. Decent player, panic buy, played out of position, started brightly, became disillusioned & uninterested, unmotivated by Wenger, fans turning on him.

It will get ugly soon which will be sad to see as deep down most know he's playing shit because the manager is using him badly.

Watch when that happens though, the person responsible will turn it around and blame the fans for destroying his confidence.

[StuartL]

May all be lost in translation but this is interesting per mertesacker on Pravda today

on this performance compared to last year…
Obviously we were more competitive this year. That was the first target, to be much better than last year. At times we were good but not good enough to score a goal. Defensively we made two wrong decisions and we missed the final touch in the last third and the final ball - that was the difference. Overall we have to admit that we can take some positives out of this game but there’s still something to do.

If the top players start the game just hoping to do better than a 6-0 loss its little wonder we lost. Mentality totally wrong from the start.

The players must realise that Wenker and his system is a busted flush.
Time for them to stand up and tell him. He can't drop them all.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Wanker has yet again managed to take a world class talent and fuck him right up. Ozil probably sees straight through the incompetent fool and I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to get out.

[flash gunner]

Play him in his proper position and if he is still shit then get rid. Its Wengers fault so far not Ozil's

[northbank123]

Play him in his proper position and if he is still shit then get rid. Its Wengers fault so far not Ozil's

Absolutely. Give him the season there.

And the comparison with Arshavin is apt. There is already discussion about how blame should be split and we'll be here in two years time pouring over what went wrong.

[REB]

Play him in his proper position and if he is still shit then get rid. Its Wengers fault so far not Ozil's

easy to say but he could at least make an effort elsewhere, never seen a more disinterested player on the pitch, strolls around doing fuck all, i would rather have a player with less talent put a shift in then a more talented one swan around the pitch doing fuck all.

[QuartzGooner]

The less well Ozil performs the more it plays into Wenger's hands....

....IF....

....the rumour is to be believed that Wenger was ordered to buy a big name by certain people on the board who were worried about box sales...and Ozil was the available player at that time.

Wenger can turn round and say ... "told you so."

[TheCook]

If the season continues to disappoint, Ozil will be the lightning rod for the fans frustrations

[SPUDMASHER]

The less well Ozil performs the more it plays into Wenger's hands....

....IF....

....the rumour is to be believed that Wenger was ordered to buy a big name by certain people on the board who were worried about box sales...and Ozil was the available player at that time.

Wenger can turn round and say ... "told you so."

I think he cares about the club too much to play those kind of games. He may make a lot of bad decisions but I'm confident that he believes they are the right ones.

What I don't understand is saying that he could not re-sign Fabregas because he has Ozil for that position but then doesn't play him in that position.

[SPUDMASHER]

Play him in his proper position and if he is still shit then get rid. Its Wengers fault so far not Ozil's

I agree, and my post above states why.

I'm going for a lay down now as:-
1, Flash has said something sensible, and
2, I agree with him