The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[Nos89]

Im still baffled by the remain campaign continued scaremongering.
Visited Rep of Ireland a fair few times in the mid 90's and Dublin was vibrant. Went back 10 years later after it joined the Euro, and shops had closed, market had lost 80% of it stalls and it seemed a bit ruined. Cyprus exactly the same, had strongest economy of the 10 nations that joined in 2004 , 10 years later it needs a 5 billion bailout.
Any immigrants that come into the UK from now should be relocated to Scotland , and all funding from Westminster should cease. It will be a prelude to what will happen if the go independent and attempt to join the EU. Which will take a few years to join. Sturgeon may lead the Scots to independence but it will inevitably lead to an economic catastrophe on scale that the Scots simply do not deserve.

[DB10GOONER]

Ah a European who is wiser than an Englishman. Pound fell to its lowest level against the dollar for 30 years. And this is very important as all our non EU trade is generally done in dollars. And of course all energy markets are $ denominated so petrol is set to rise about 2-3p per litre this week. Soon to be followed by gas and electricity prices. But not to worry all the "savings" are going to reduce the VAT, or NHS or bugger all.

Banks will have to move operations into the EU.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... b-official

We're obviously not in recession after 48 hours But no multi-national is going to invest big sums in the UK for the foreseeable future and many are looking for exit strategies.

So you are admitting that house prices are going to fall. Not sure how popular that will be with those relying on their houses for pensions, especially as any investments and/or pensions are being wiped out by the stock market fall.

As for the NHS.

I'm Kosovan-Albanian! That makes me not European, or better said not wanted European!
I guess , since I get paid in USD , and if I think the same way Europenas think "selfish"! It's good to me!
But no, I can't think that way, no matter what I make, and how I live, still been worried about all this mess!

Are there no English staff in the N.H.S.?!

Would it really matter if there weren't?

Actually probably not mate.I was just trying to make the point,(in a hopefully light hearted way), that a lot of people are seemingly of the view that England would be a great place if it weren't for all the English people in it.

Sorry, didn't mean that to read as pissy as it does, mate! I knew it was lighthearted.

[DB10GOONER]

Im still baffled by the remain campaign continued scaremongering.
Visited Rep of Ireland a fair few times in the mid 90's and Dublin was vibrant. Went back 10 years later after it joined the Euro, and shops had closed, market had lost 80% of it stalls and it seemed a bit ruined. Cyprus exactly the same, had strongest economy of the 10 nations that joined in 2004 , 10 years later it needs a 5 billion bailout.
Any immigrants that come into the UK from now should be relocated to Scotland , and all funding from Westminster should cease. It will be a prelude to what will happen if the go independent and attempt to join the EU. Which will take a few years to join. Sturgeon may lead the Scots to independence but it will inevitably lead to an economic catastrophe on scale that the Scots simply do not deserve.

Dublin was vibrant up until the crash in 2008. It's swung back a bit in the last year or two but not to the same extent.

[Chippy]

I normally post from "left wing" papers because they don't have a paywall. However this Torygraph article seems to be outside the paywall.

We do not control this process

Article 50 is designed so that it leaves any state that activates it is a supplicant.

The remaining EU states will negotiate between themselves and deal with the UK as one, just as they would for Albania or Turkey.

If a deal covering trade arrangements isn’t struck once the two-year period expires, Britain is simply released from the EU treaties and left on crippling WTO terms - something the Treasury terms a "severe shock scenario" and which it envisages would likely result in a cut in GDP of six per cent and increase unemployment by 800,000, not including the risks presented by emergency spending cuts, or the "tipping points" presented by the crystallisation of financial stability risks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ke-greece/

the sun doesn't have a paywall...

Speaking of which, grade A *word censored*......

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/s ... or-brexit/

[the playing mantis]

I normally post from "left wing" papers because they don't have a paywall. However this Torygraph article seems to be outside the paywall.

We do not control this process

Article 50 is designed so that it leaves any state that activates it is a supplicant.

The remaining EU states will negotiate between themselves and deal with the UK as one, just as they would for Albania or Turkey.

If a deal covering trade arrangements isn’t struck once the two-year period expires, Britain is simply released from the EU treaties and left on crippling WTO terms - something the Treasury terms a "severe shock scenario" and which it envisages would likely result in a cut in GDP of six per cent and increase unemployment by 800,000, not including the risks presented by emergency spending cuts, or the "tipping points" presented by the crystallisation of financial stability risks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ke-greece/

the sun doesn't have a paywall...

Speaking of which, grade A *word censored*......

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/s ... or-brexit/

who me or kelv!! yeah hes a bellend, but he doesnt actually say regret does he, buyers remorse is different to regret and doesnt mean he would change his mind. its a case of wondering if he could have done better. he is uncertain what the future holds but that was the case it would be as its a leap into the unkwown. the issue is some think we will sink and fail whilst other are actually confident and optimistic we can thrive and do better...

[the playing mantis]

that facking idiot david lammy wont shut up talk... about bitter. not a binding result parliament dont have to act on it etc.

what a cock he has previous and is possibly one of the cuntiest mps there is, but what more can anyone expect from the mp for that shitehole, tottenham

[KaQaK]

Twice within a week!

[A11M11]

So here we are now. We are a rudderless ship drifting aimlessly whilst the leader who claimed that he would not resign has taken his ball home and left us in limbo. It appears that Osborne is not about to levy his retribution budget and Cameron is allowing things to turn for the worse to make it as bad as possible for the next man to have to sort.

[DB10GOONER]

So here we are now. We are a rudderless ship drifting aimlessly whilst the leader who claimed that he would not resign has taken his ball home and left us in limbo. It appears that Osborne is not about to levy his retribution budget and Cameron is allowing things to turn for the worse to make it as bad as possible for the next man to have to sort.

Cameron, like all politicians is a self serving cynical me-first cúnt. If Brexit works he can come out of it as the decent honest man of integrity with "Hey, I tried and the country voted against me, so I did the honorable thing and fell on my sword". If Brexit goes tits up then it's Boris (you all know he's your next PM ) that has to deal with the shit and will be fucked within a year.

[northbank123]

So yesterday the leaders of 3 out of 27 member states held a private meeting, agreed on a policy and issued statements on behalf of the EU.

Not sure where in the treaties it says that - this (more or rather than immigration) is the sort of thing that persuaded a lot of people to vote Leave. France and Germany have no more power under the written constitution of the EU (unless somebody tells me otherwise) yet they clearly exercise it to a greater degree than simply having more influence due to their size.

[augie]

So here we are now. We are a rudderless ship drifting aimlessly whilst the leader who claimed that he would not resign has taken his ball home and left us in limbo. It appears that Osborne is not about to levy his retribution budget and Cameron is allowing things to turn for the worse to make it as bad as possible for the next man to have to sort.

Cameron, like all politicians is a self serving cynical me-first cúnt. If Brexit works he can come out of it as the decent honest man of integrity with "Hey, I tried and the country voted against me, so I did the honorable thing and fell on my sword". If Brexit goes tits up then it's Boris (you all know he's your next PM ) that has to deal with the shit and will be fucked within a year.

To be fair to Cameron I think he had to resign - whatever hope the brexit has of working, it needs someone in charge who 100% believes it is the way to go and is willing to drive it on. Who can Cameron sell brexit to the 48% when they know he doesn't believe it himself ? If you were in his position would you implement changes that you felt were going to have a negative impact on the country and it's citizens ?
As well as that I think for his own sake he was right to go - if he believes that brexit will be a disaster, why should he be associated with it's failure ? This wasn't his decision and he is 100% right to turn around and tell boris Johnson, "you wanted this so now you try and make it work" - expecting Cameron to be linked in any way to a collapse (if that is what happens) is ridiculous but boris Johnson wants this brexit but expects somebody to put their head on a block and make it work

[DB10GOONER]

So here we are now. We are a rudderless ship drifting aimlessly whilst the leader who claimed that he would not resign has taken his ball home and left us in limbo. It appears that Osborne is not about to levy his retribution budget and Cameron is allowing things to turn for the worse to make it as bad as possible for the next man to have to sort.

Cameron, like all politicians is a self serving cynical me-first cúnt. If Brexit works he can come out of it as the decent honest man of integrity with "Hey, I tried and the country voted against me, so I did the honorable thing and fell on my sword". If Brexit goes tits up then it's Boris (you all know he's your next PM :suicide ) that has to deal with the shit and will be fucked within a year.

To be fair to Cameron I think he had to resign - whatever hope the brexit has of working, it needs someone in charge who 100% believes it is the way to go and is willing to drive it on. Who can Cameron sell brexit to the 48% when they know he doesn't believe it himself ? If you were in his position would you implement changes that you felt were going to have a negative impact on the country and it's citizens ?
As well as that I think for his own sake he was right to go - if he believes that brexit will be a disaster, why should he be associated with it's failure ? This wasn't his decision and he is 100% right to turn around and tell boris Johnson, "you wanted this so now you try and make it work" - expecting Cameron to be linked in any way to a collapse (if that is what happens) is ridiculous but boris Johnson wants this brexit but expects somebody to put their head on a block and make it work

I'm a civil servant augie - half of my job is implementing policies I fundamentally do not agree with. But if you live in a democracy you implement the policy of the democratically elected government.

[Herd]

Boris out !
He lives just off the Holloway road , I walk past his house every saturday when I take my little one to rugby tots on Liverpool Road ,this weekend the place has been beseiged by the latte mafia and its not a pretty sight !

The thought of him as PM fills me with dread !

[DB10GOONER]

Boris out !
He lives just off the Holloway road , I walk past his house every saturday when I take my little one to rugby tots on Liverpool Road ,this weekend the place has been beseiged by the latte mafia and its not a pretty sight !

The thought of him as PM fills me with dread !

Boris is an inbred dullard with just enough cunning (and PR team behind him) to fool just about enough people into electing him PM. When Trump pulls the same stunt in the States, planet Earth will cease to exist because the stupidity/space-time continuum will have tipped too far into the stupidity vortex. We will all die. And be glad to as well!

[arseofacrow]

Have we gone yet?