THE BOARD - Kroenke, Usmanov and Finance

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Re: USMANOV/KROENKE/DEIN/HILL-WOOD/THE BOARD

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supergeorgegraham wrote: Do you honestly believe all this selling is down to Wenger ? It could be the wage policy but would you like to be him at the moment and face the flak year after year.
In truth we didnt sell Bergkamp ever or Henry or Vieira or Petit or Ljungburg until they were past their prime. Only Cesc was a deal that we could all understand had to happen.
If this continues and Wilshere and Ox kick arse they will leave the club too. I might be wrong but I do blame Kronke.
Yep - I do. An untouched transfer fund tells me that. My point is that Wenger has always sold players and replaced them, but never really invested in addition to keeping those players - I can really only think of a couple of years during the Wenger era where we tried to invest.

Henry and Vieira were past their primes - probably, but were they either the best players or better players at our club? Yes, they were. Could they have given some extra years of experience? Yes, they could have as well. Bergkamp stayed on and did a job when required.

Overall, I'd say that Wenger has been a bit hamstrung with finances because of the stadium move - tried to supplement that with a youth project. He rewarded some of these players with high salaries (like Djourou for instance) and bought some donkeys over the past few years on high salaries which he now can't get rid of. Kroenke obviously has some say in how the club is run, but Wenger manages the team and transfers.

and I still expect Arseshaving to be sold before the Russian transfer window closes.

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Wenker thinks hes smarter than everyone else and loves all the "we cant compete" "but we've achieved champs league for 15 years".
Makes him look like a fukin genius, when in actual fact all he's done is bring an unbeaten side a few players short of dominating down to a ragbag team of also-rans scrabbling about for fourth place. He likes the spotlight being on "top four" and not where it should be ie not winning fuk all for the guts of a decade.

Hes got a massive ego (to match his massive wages). Pity he doesn't deliver the goods.

Edited to say - and yes, it is down to Wenker. Hes far too much control at the club and I reckon Kronke et al are happy for this to be the ststus quo cause it costs them fuk all and they dont have an ambitious manager knocking at their door asking for funds for players. He an accountant ffs.

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Hill Wood speaks again

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Article in today's London Evening Standard

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 04267.html

Full of all the things we all love to hear so much (I hope Baba gets to read it :D )

"We have a pretty good chance of challenging for the Premiership this year" - he really has turned senile

"It is not a worry to the board that we haven't won a trophy since 2005" - no shit mate, think we'd worked that out

“Arsene has money to spend but there’s a limit. We can’t spend £50m on one player." - nobody's bloody asking you to dickhead. How about £15m or £20m on a defensive midfielder?

“Luckily, Arsene understands that. He got an economics degree from Strasbourg University so he’s certainly no fool" - oh yes, the only man with an economics degree in the whole world which means he can't be challenged at any level. Of course, the world's leading economists have really served us well since 2007

“The Glasgow Rangers example is something we’ve all got to guard against" - yep how convenient. Why not mention Leeds and Portsmouth again. I take it we ignore Manchester United's example then

“What those fans shouted did not influence me one little bit. I was disgusted to hear them because Arsene’s been absolutely outstanding. He is still outstanding.” Yes, what a bunch of rotters we are. We should all sit there politely when Arshavin comes on and loses the game for us against a major rival and keep on paying £60 and behave like jolly old Etonians

“You occasionally hear rumours of him going somewhere. I do not think that is likely to happen. He’s very happy where he is. He has a very good job in that we don’t interfere with him" - which is why people need to give up on any idea of him going anywhere in 2014

As for Usmanov getting on the board, Hill-Wood added: “It’s not entirely in my hands. I don’t think Stan Kroenke wants anybody else on the board. I have met Usmanov but I don’t think he would fit in, that’s all.” Yes - we don't want his sort do we? Oh no, I remember you saying that about someone else not long ago


BUT THERE IS A CRUMB OF COMFORT....

“I’m going to carry on until I get completely senile and then my colleagues will say, ‘It’s time you went’. But, at the moment, they haven’t got to that stage"......think you're time is up already on that basis

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Great comments SteveO can't add to them at all

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The idiot always comes out and shoots his mouth off after an unexpected victory yet seems to stay ever so quiet whenever we're going through a rough patch!! :roll: :oops: I'm generally against euthanasia ......

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SteveO 35 wrote:
“You occasionally hear rumours of him going somewhere. I do not think that is likely to happen. He’s very happy where he is. He has a very good job in that we don’t interfere with him" - which is why people need to give up on any idea of him going anywhere in 2014
The only thing the old :censored: has got right.Of course Wenger aint going nowhere.What other club will pay him £7m and not expect trophies in return.Of course he is fucking happy where he is.In Arsene we Rust

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So a man with a much-vaunted economics degree is entirely incapable of even envisioning any kind of financial policy that lies somewhere (anywhere) between hoarding all your pennies in a nun's chufter and the fraudulent mismanagement that bankrupted Rangers. :roll: Not sure that degree's worth the paper it's scribbled on.

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This winds me up so much. Deluded fools, the lot of em. Can't wait till the lot of em fuck off & we can start again. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Now I know how the newcastle fans felt like when they had the comedy stylings of freddy shepherd & Doug hall. This guy is a complete bafoon.

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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:So a man with a much-vaunted economics degree is entirely incapable of even envisioning any kind of financial policy that lies somewhere (anywhere) between hoarding all your pennies in a nun's chufter and the fraudulent mismanagement that bankrupted Rangers. :roll: Not sure that degree's worth the paper it's scribbled on.
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what happened to the blue light smiley?

WUM ALERT

(referring to the senile git)

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skizz_b wrote:what happened to the blue light smiley?

WUM ALERT

(referring to the senile git)
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SteveO 35 wrote:Article in today's London Evening Standard

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 04267.html

Full of all the things we all love to hear so much (I hope Baba gets to read it :D )

"We have a pretty good chance of challenging for the Premiership this year" - he really has turned senile

"It is not a worry to the board that we haven't won a trophy since 2005" - no shit mate, think we'd worked that out

“Arsene has money to spend but there’s a limit. We can’t spend £50m on one player." - nobody's bloody asking you to dickhead. How about £15m or £20m on a defensive midfielder?

“Luckily, Arsene understands that. He got an economics degree from Strasbourg University so he’s certainly no fool" - oh yes, the only man with an economics degree in the whole world which means he can't be challenged at any level. Of course, the world's leading economists have really served us well since 2007

“The Glasgow Rangers example is something we’ve all got to guard against" - yep how convenient. Why not mention Leeds and Portsmouth again. I take it we ignore Manchester United's example then

“What those fans shouted did not influence me one little bit. I was disgusted to hear them because Arsene’s been absolutely outstanding. He is still outstanding.” Yes, what a bunch of rotters we are. We should all sit there politely when Arshavin comes on and loses the game for us against a major rival and keep on paying £60 and behave like jolly old Etonians

“You occasionally hear rumours of him going somewhere. I do not think that is likely to happen. He’s very happy where he is. He has a very good job in that we don’t interfere with him" - which is why people need to give up on any idea of him going anywhere in 2014

As for Usmanov getting on the board, Hill-Wood added: “It’s not entirely in my hands. I don’t think Stan Kroenke wants anybody else on the board. I have met Usmanov but I don’t think he would fit in, that’s all.” Yes - we don't want his sort do we? Oh no, I remember you saying that about someone else not long ago


BUT THERE IS A CRUMB OF COMFORT....

“I’m going to carry on until I get completely senile and then my colleagues will say, ‘It’s time you went’. But, at the moment, they haven’t got to that stage"......think you're time is up already on that basis
Why Oh Why!? doesn't the *word censored* just shut the fuck up!? - He has yet to open his oversized, disilusioned gob and not get it Totally Wrong...he really should be put down...any volunteers!??? :D

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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:So a man with a much-vaunted economics degree is entirely incapable of even envisioning any kind of financial policy that lies somewhere (anywhere) between hoarding all your pennies in a nun's chufter and the fraudulent mismanagement that bankrupted Rangers. :roll: Not sure that degree's worth the paper it's scribbled on.
Apparently it's all done in pretty colours and crayons - and is authorised under the auspices of The University of Bollocks and Shyte in The Ole U S of A. - all done in a week-end too...amaaaazing - online degree's for the hard of thinking! :wink:

So therefore must be genuine - as there's a few on this forum who 'studied' (I mean stumped up their cash for) with the same place! :roll: :lol:


www.uniforrichthickos.com

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Some choice quotes from this:

“Luckily, Arsene understands that. He got an economics degree from Strasbourg University so he’s certainly no fool" - oh yes, the only man with an economics degree in the whole world which means he can't be challenged at any level. Of course, the world's leading economists have really served us well since 2007

Oh apparently an MA from a Micky Mouse university means that the man who wastes colossal amounts on Shitachi, Denilson, Diaby (yes SteveO), Flapianski, Djourou, Mannone, Bendtner, Park and Chamakh, cannot be questioned. LOL


'At a certain level, we can't compete,' Hill-Wood confessed.

Fair enough. Although the Etonion semen stain has neglected to mention that if you're barely spending more than Burnley or Crawley in the transfer market and you 'cannot compete' then perhaps it's a good idea to stop selling your best players to those evil petrodollar clubs eh?
Oh and if you 'cannot compete', then don't pay a manager £7 mil a season and don't charge the fans over a grand.
After all you don't see other clubs on our level like Everton, Newcastle and Liverpool charge their fans that or pay their managers that do you? Muppet.


'I don't think Stan Kroenke is going to put the sort of dollars in that Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour are putting into Chelsea or Manchester City. That's not the way he thinks clubs should be run.

Oh that's right, the Denver dough trouserer doesn't believe that is how a club should be run! This twat in Denverisn't even aware that relegation exists in the 'EPL'! :roll:
The way this imbecile thinks a club should be run, is to squeeze the fans for every last penny, raise prices continually, weaken the product drastically year on year, get rid of the best players and high earners, replace them with cock-knockers, and turn the sports team into an also-ran circus act - just ask any NBA fans who support the Denver Nuggets what the DDT has done for them.


"if you don't have billions of petro-dollars to throw around, you're going to have to do it some other way. That's what we’re trying to do — with skillful selection of players."

Ooooh that old chestnut. 'Skillful selection of players'? Oooh is that how you will compete? Ok I see. Does he mean a skillful selection of players like let me seeee....
Ash Cole, Flamini, Edu, Gilberto Silva, Sam Nasri, Adebayor, Robin Van Pursestrings, Alex Song, Cesc Fabregas, Gael Clichy, Kolo Tourrr...

Oh hold on. I've just named a first 11 that would piss all over the current imposters in red kits I witness!
Or did he mean skillful players like the Girouds and Chamakhs that have replaced the rubbish like Van Persie and Henry?
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