THE WENGER THREAD

[DB10GOONER]

Furburger is used up here too DB maybe its a celt thing I dont go with the tight budget thing lefty,when he has had cash to spend hes bought mostly shite the 2011 trolley dash was just a joke he should have been out on his arse then Like you say though we would be aswell giving the furburger his new deal now and get it over with cos we all know its gonna happen

Have to agree with the red bit.

Also, I would say that Wenger HAS mismanaged us in that he has spent millions on wages, payrises and improved contract extensions for shit and average players (that had achieved nothing to warrant such wages) long after every fucker and his cousin could see that those players were not good enough. Song, Vela, Almunia, LegoHead, Mannone, Flappy, Squiggy, Bendtner - ah Christ I can't be arsed naming them all AGAIN but the list is long as we all know. Why did he massively overpay so many poor/average players for so long? We weren't desperate to hang onto them as no one wanted to sign them.

So for me, the money was always there but Wenger spent it incorrectly.

Not taking the piss out of SteveO here, but I read somewhere that Diaby has earned £27million in his time with us. That is absolutely criminal mismanagement.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Yes Higuain, how could I forget

Wasn't the deal agreed though and then they upped the price by another 10 mil

Not entirely sure nor is anyone here because the transfer business is hush hush with Arsenal.

I personally don't know much about Jovetic or if he is World Class.

The thing is DB he may have given some dodgy contracts to lesser players than we would have liked but surely that's the same with every team in the league and their supporters.

But he has kept us in the top 4 with these players (or without some of them) so somewhere along the line he has done well, you can't have it both ways, in that they are shit players and he is a shit manager, either we have all underrated the players or the manager has worked wonders with average players.

I personally don't think we're far away from a very good team, we do need another forward, centre half, DM and goalkeeper, maybe they will be bought in January when we are joint top with chavski

Judge him in MAY.....

Be careful what you wish for.....

30 years in football.....

He could have gone to Madrid.....

He ate my Hamster.....

[augie]

I think the point our midget dublin mod was making leftie, is that when you look at the amount of money he continued to piss away for years, it dilutes the whole "he did well under those financial constraints" argument. Yes every manager has given out some dodgy contracts but I would argue that nobody has given out as many as wenker especially when you consider just how excessive those contracts were How many contract extensions has he awarded diaby despite the fact that the guy is continually injured ? How confident are you that wenker wont give him another new contract later in this season if he plays 6-10 consecutive games ? I am only picking diaby as an example and am only referring to his injuries rather than focus on his shitiness (dont have enough time to detail that ) cos otherwise I would include rosicky, bendtner, denilson, below average al etc etc etc This validation of wenker's is for me the very same as suggesting that he has done well with the players he has available - who bought these players ? Who chose on numerous occasions not to use his full budget trying to bring in better players ?

[goonersid]

I think the point our midget dublin mod was making leftie, is that when you look at the amount of money he continued to piss away for years, it dilutes the whole "he did well under those financial constraints" argument. Yes every manager has given out some dodgy contracts but I would argue that nobody has given out as many as wenker especially when you consider just how excessive those contracts were How many contract extensions has he awarded diaby despite the fact that the guy is continually injured ? How confident are you that wenker wont give him another new contract later in this season if he plays 6-10 consecutive games ? I am only picking diaby as an example and am only referring to his injuries rather than focus on his shitiness (dont have enough time to detail that ) cos otherwise I would include rosicky, bendtner, denilson, below average al etc etc etc This validation of wenker's is for me the very same as suggesting that he has done well with the players he has available - who bought these players ? Who chose on numerous occasions not to use his full budget trying to bring in better players ?

Exactly!!! They've all bought dross and made mistakes, even fergie, look at Veron, Taibi and Djemba to name but a few. The difference with fergie was he was willing to accept that he'd made a mistake and these players didn't hang around too long on the utd wage bill.
Where as stubborn Wenger could never admit he'd made a mistake and the shite mentioned above hung around and in some cases are still fucking well hanging around the club.

[DB10GOONER]

I think the point our midget dublin mod was making leftie, is that when you look at the amount of money he continued to piss away for years, it dilutes the whole "he did well under those financial constraints" argument. Yes every manager has given out some dodgy contracts but I would argue that nobody has given out as many as wenker especially when you consider just how excessive those contracts were How many contract extensions has he awarded diaby despite the fact that the guy is continually injured ? How confident are you that wenker wont give him another new contract later in this season if he plays 6-10 consecutive games ? I am only picking diaby as an example and am only referring to his injuries rather than focus on his shitiness (dont have enough time to detail that ) cos otherwise I would include rosicky, bendtner, denilson, below average al etc etc etc This validation of wenker's is for me the very same as suggesting that he has done well with the players he has available - who bought these players ? Who chose on numerous occasions not to use his full budget trying to bring in better players ?

Exactly!!! They've all bought dross and made mistakes, even fergie, look at Veron, Taibi and Djemba to name but a few. The difference with fergie was he was willing to accept that he'd made a mistake and these players didn't hang around too long on the utd wage bill.
Where as stubborn Wenger could never admit he'd made a mistake and the shite mentioned above hung around and in some cases are still fucking well hanging around the club.

In total agreement with the two bald bastards I've quoted, Lefty. Also, you say; "But he has kept us in the top 4 with these players (or without some of them) so somewhere along the line he has done well, you can't have it both ways, in that they are shit players and he is a shit manager, either we have all underrated the players or the manager has worked wonders with average players" - I would argue that if he had spent that money correctly on better players (and gotten rid of the chaff as soon as it was apparent they were chaff, like Rednose did) then he could have done better than just scrape 4th place every year for the best part of a decade, and for the same outlay.

The main points for me are that Arsene (more than ANY manager) overpaid/still overpays poor and average players and retains them far too long, and he does this because he cannot admit he got it wrong. That is very poor financial management as well as football management.

[mcdowell42]

You would think an "Author" could spell overpaid

[DB10GOONER]

You would think an "Author" could spell overpaid

To what do you refer, my friend...?

[rodders999]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rophy.html

[franksav63]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rophy.html

He said this before in 2009 yet he's still here...

[augie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rophy.html

He said this before in 2009 yet he's still here...

I dont see any direct quote from the old saying that he will leave if we dont win a trophy - what I did see was a line saying something along the lines of being judged by how well the team does but in his eyes they always do well so we are gonna be stuck with the senile old goat for decades yet If the old fcuker wanted to give the fans some bit of hope to cling to then why doesnt he announce that he will fcuk off whether he wins a trophy or not ?

Interesting quote from the article -
'I wouldn’t say [signing Ozil] was easy. It was very complicated because the timing was short"
Hasnt the old dick spent the whole summer proclaiming that buying at the end of the transfer window is the only way to do it ?

[MrT]

I was waiting for the holy grail quote and it was nowhere to be seen.

Like augie said, his standards and the standards that we expect are miles apart.

On a side note, I'm getting sick of reading quotes about how Wenger was the catalyst that brought Ozil in. You can tell he is acting very smug about it and the AKBs are creaming themselves that their leader has done something right for once.

[markyp]

he wont quit,no chance,his middle name is pinnochio.one thing I do have to say though is that the 10 game unbeaten run at the end of last season with 8 wins two draws and our performances this season so far including the man city friendly and of course excluding the shower of shoite on the opening day of the season against villa we seem to be getting back to our former selves don't you think??the game against spuds was a joy to watch,we let them have the ball,they did nothing with it and we hit them on the break at pace time and time again.maybe with the ozil signing we could start to once again be a proper title challenger,our defence is now very difficult to break down and giroud is scoring,the midfield must be one of the most blessed in Europe,could this at last be the makings of a new dawn,time will tell!!

[Henry Norris 1913]

he wont quit,no chance,his middle name is pinnochio.one thing I do have to say though is that the 10 game unbeaten run at the end of last season with 8 wins two draws and our performances this season so far including the man city friendly and of course excluding the shower of shoite on the opening day of the season against villa we seem to be getting back to our former selves don't you think??the game against spuds was a joy to watch,we let them have the ball,they did nothing with it and we hit them on the break at pace time and time again.maybe with the ozil signing we could start to once again be a proper title challenger,our defence is now very difficult to break down and giroud is scoring,the midfield must be one of the most blessed in Europe,could this at last be the makings of a new dawn,time will tell!!

the rest of this season will hurt people like you the most. prepare for a hurricane of shite

[Nos89]

Is this Wenger suggesting that he's ready to move to PSG in the summer when his contract is up?? That's how I read it. It's not like wenger to get his contract sorted at the last minute for the stability of the club.

[VoiceOfReason]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... rophy.html

Does this include the virtual trophy?

Nope, didn't think so.



Why won't he just fuck off?