The Summer 2014 TRANSFER THREAD

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SPUDMASHER wrote: Surely you're not suggesting that he had no involvement in the early signings and is now delaying things? :roll:

It seems that you'll get on his case for delaying now but won't give him any credit for having got his main targets early. Not really a well balanced assessment is it.

I personally think that the couple he is looking at currently want some CL assurances before signing and yes, I do think we are trying to get them as cheap as possible. I believe any perceived delays, if they exist at all (assuming all the 'paper talk' about who we are chasing has a modicum of truth to it) are due to those issues.
I have to second this. I am not a massive fan of Wenger, but I do think that he is still a good manager. He has his limitations without question and I have posted on those, but most on here do not want to give him credit for anything while broadsiding him for everything wrong.

Will he buy what is required? I will wait until the window slams shut before commenting, but I would agree that CL qualification had much to do with any further signings and the type.

I admit to getting frustrated as anyone with not buying what is required sooner, but really, most of the newspapers will wind you up because we have one of the largest fanbases in the world, so the papers attract hits by printing garbage - hardly news. However, everyone comes on here and moans about the said 'news'.

(That being said, I do harbor doubts on him buying what is needed. If he buys Reus and no one else, I will be delighted - even with no cover for CB)

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BFG4 wrote:''Sanogo is very interesting. He takes up great goalscoring positions, which is a natural skill. Have a feeling goals will flow soon''

A quote from an AKB on twitter. Honestly, when you have people like this supporting the club, no wonder Wenger thinks he doesn't need to buy a striker :banghead:

Oh dear, oh dear, so he is apparently a striker, so occasionally ambled by accident into the penalty area and this is a " natural skill" You might as well say he trots out of the tunnel very well and shakes hands quite superbly.

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
augie wrote:Sanchez and chambers signed plus ospina and debouchy deals all but signed whilst le cock was with the ladyboys on the Brazilian beaches but since he returned all we have had is outgoings - decisive action when he aint around whilst non stop dithering when he returns so somebody tell me how this window is any different from any other window ? :roll:

Surely you're not suggesting that he had no involvement in the early signings and is now delaying things? :roll:

It seems that you'll get on his case for delaying now but won't give him any credit for having got his main targets early. Not really a well balanced assessment is it.

I personally think that the couple he is looking at currently want some CL assurances before signing and yes, I do think we are trying to get them as cheap as possible. I believe any perceived delays, if they exist at all (assuming all the 'paper talk' about who we are chasing has a modicum of truth to it) are due to those issues.

Augie, I get it that you don't like Wenger any more, that's your perogative, but there comes a time when the continuous criticism actually weakens your argument. How long is it going to be before you blame him for the tube delays but credit transport for London when we win the CL?
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No, what I am suggesting is that when he was in brazil he told our ceo what players he was interested in and then let them do their jobs - now that he is back, I think that he is putting himself back into the negotiations which is causing hesitation and a lack of decisiveness.

Spuddy there are a lot of ways in which my criticism is personal/harsh/ott and maybe it is just a coincidence but in this occasion I am only going by what I see and most of the time if it looks like a dog and barks like a dog, then it is a dog 8)

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Quack.

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augie wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:
augie wrote:Sanchez and chambers signed plus ospina and debouchy deals all but signed whilst le cock was with the ladyboys on the Brazilian beaches but since he returned all we have had is outgoings - decisive action when he aint around whilst non stop dithering when he returns so somebody tell me how this window is any different from any other window ? :roll:

Surely you're not suggesting that he had no involvement in the early signings and is now delaying things? :roll:

It seems that you'll get on his case for delaying now but won't give him any credit for having got his main targets early. Not really a well balanced assessment is it.

I personally think that the couple he is looking at currently want some CL assurances before signing and yes, I do think we are trying to get them as cheap as possible. I believe any perceived delays, if they exist at all (assuming all the 'paper talk' about who we are chasing has a modicum of truth to it) are due to those issues.

Augie, I get it that you don't like Wenger any more, that's your perogative, but there comes a time when the continuous criticism actually weakens your argument. How long is it going to be before you blame him for the tube delays but credit transport for London when we win the CL?
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No, what I am suggesting is that when he was in brazil he told our ceo what players he was interested in and then let them do their jobs - now that he is back, I think that he is putting himself back into the negotiations which is causing hesitation and a lack of decisiveness.

Spuddy there are a lot of ways in which my criticism is personal/harsh/ott and maybe it is just a coincidence but in this occasion I am only going by what I see and most of the time if it looks like a dog and barks like a dog, then it is a dog 8)
So you disregard the fact that all the players we signed (excluding Chambers) were in Brazil at the same time as Wenger? It was reported that Wenger met with Sanchez's agent in Brazil yet this had no bearing whatsoever on him signing?

We will sign players over the next few days. However, it's unlikely they'll make you happy.

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Happy and Augie won't go in the same sentence oh I just did it .

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Augie - what sort of signings do you feel that we should make that would make you happy with this window and why? I am curious to know who you rate and what you feel that we would need.

For me - I would want Reus and get rid of Podolski (who really doesn't fit our style) as he could play in the middle or on the wing (like Sanchez will do). I don't see the DM thing as being the thing that will make or break us, so I could live without it at a push. Personally, if we could have gotten Alonso rather than Bayern, I would have been estatic. Centre-back - we do need one, but I can't see us buying a top notch defender. I see someone who is more of a utility player. I would be happy with that as well. Maybe a highly rated 21-22 year old who can be rotated a bit.

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begeegs wrote:Augie - what sort of signings do you feel that we should make that would make you happy with this window and why? I am curious to know who you rate and what you feel that we would need.

For me - I would want Reus and get rid of Podolski (who really doesn't fit our style) as he could play in the middle or on the wing (like Sanchez will do). I don't see the DM thing as being the thing that will make or break us, so I could live without it at a push. Personally, if we could have gotten Alonso rather than Bayern, I would have been estatic. Centre-back - we do need one, but I can't see us buying a top notch defender. I see someone who is more of a utility player. I would be happy with that as well. Maybe a highly rated 21-22 year old who can be rotated a bit.

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A month ago, with the budget we have at our disposal, I wanted us to sign javi martinez and marco reus and I still believe that both were gettable. Martinez would have been our top class DM but he could also have covered at centre back, whilst reus would bring pace and directness to our centre forward position and could have interchanged easily during a game with sanchez. Now that martinez is injured I have had to alter my thinking and even more so now that giroud is injured.

Most of us feel that we really need a centre back, a DM and a striker but where I differ from the rest of you is that I feel that the centre back signing should be the 3rd priority on the list and I am saying that knowing that we wont be making 3 signings, I have always lived by the policy that you first have to build a strong team and then, and only then, do you start building your squad - in my opinion we have 2 good centre backs and the promising chambers, but we do not have 1 quality DM or 1 quality centre forward and that is why I make them my priorities above centre back. As far as I am concerned we havent had a proper physical presence in midfield since PV4 left, so if it was up to me then I would buy either carvalho or de jong - granted the shelflife on de jong wouldnt be as long as carvalho but his price would allow le cock to spend an extra 10m or so on our other recruits. I hear that the raboit (sp ?) guy from psg is meant to be handy but I havent seen him and tbh he would be another "jam tomorrow" signing instead of a top DM enforcer that could make the difference now.
Marco reus is still out on his own as my number 1 target for our centre forward position - people will say that dortmund wont sell him but the reality is that he has refused to discuss a new contract with them and clearly intends leaving whether it be in this window or next summer. Of course being drawn against them in the champs league has complicated the issue but money still talks and this is where we need to be more agressive and force the issue

I havent the time now to think about the various alternatives if we couldnt get either of those players but remy would be on that list. The one thing that I dont want to be feeling next tuesday, is that feeling of "making do". Waking up next tuesday with a list of striker options that includes sonogo, wellbeck and campbell is absolutely unacceptable to me, whilst seeing that useless cameroon c*nt wearing our shirt again will have me suicidal.

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StuartL wrote:
BFG4 wrote:''Sanogo is very interesting. He takes up great goalscoring positions, which is a natural skill. Have a feeling goals will flow soon''

A quote from an AKB on twitter. Honestly, when you have people like this supporting the club, no wonder Wenger thinks he doesn't need to buy a striker :banghead:

Oh dear, oh dear, so he is apparently a striker, so occasionally ambled by accident into the penalty area and this is a " natural skill" You might as well say he trots out of the tunnel very well and shakes hands quite superbly.

:lol:

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mcdowell42 wrote:Happy and Augie won't go in the same sentence oh I just did it .

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Torres joins Milan on 2-year loan.

2-year loan, weird :?

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northbank123 wrote:Torres joins Milan on 2-year loan.

2-year loan, weird :?
Not really. It's the perfect solution for both clubs.

He's got two years to run on his contract. Send him out on loan to Milan for those two years. They agree to pick up his wages. Thus, he's off your books and Milan don't have to pay a transfer fee for him. At the end of the two years, he won't belong to either club and he can go on his merry way.

I seem to remember the Chavs doing something similar with Crespo.

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SPUDMASHER wrote:I'm just wanting people to post a little more intelligently
Good one

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northbank123 wrote:Torres joins Milan on 2-year loan.

2-year loan, weird :?

So the Chavs only lose the 50 million on Torres. Including wages he probably cost them 1.5 million a goal. Nice one Roman.

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ha ha - a mate from East London just texted me that WHU just agreed a loan deal for alex mong. :lol:

it started with "WTF...". snigger.

TFFT i was sure he was coming here. phew.

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