Board Sells - Kroenke Takes Control Of Club!!

[USMartin]

I think that covers it really, so you see, I don't love the board, I don't think they are wonderful. I think that they are happy with Wenger as long as he gets CL football and fills the stadium. I think Wenger is happy to have a free hand to do what he wants with no risk to his position. The whole scenario stinks of complacency as I said.
For me, the main issue is with Wenger and his many faults which are now holding the club back. When a new manager is hired, inevitably he tends to receive support from the board for obvious reasons. I want Wenger out, if that happened and the new manager suddenly announced 6 months down the line that he had been lied to by the board and he had no money to spend, then I would happily hold my hands up and say I'm wrong and you are right about the board but I truly believe that the big issue is with the manager, NOT the board, but that's not to say there are not issues with the board!!

I would just laugh but at l;east you have said something of some real substance for once.

But let's be serious. Read what you wrote there. Even if I agree that the Board are content to let Mr. Wenger manage the club into mediocrity - how does that still end up being the manager's fault, and better still how can you say with realcconviiction it all will change as soon as there is a managerial change when you are saying they are happy as long as he delivers top four football and a full stadium.

First off that means there is no reason they will consider sacking him now even or probably another year or two. Secondly unless there is a drop from the top four AND plummeting ticket sales TOGETHER why wouldthey hire someone bent on spending significantly more or change the policies to encourage him doing so as long they feel they don't have to and apologists like you will continue to excuse them for this?

[Irish Gooner]

Little boy MM99,
99 was obviously your year of birth, come back when you've grown up.

Hahahah, hahahaha, hahahahha, oh my god, that is like so funny. Hahaha, what a great insult! Hahahahha, "is 99 your date of birth", hahahahah! Brilliant! How did you come up with such an insult!

Jeez, i wish i was as witty as you teecee!

(p.s. very convenient that you actually didn't refute the points i made in my post)

You haven't made any points worth responding too, which is why Teecee won't be bothered responding or anyone else.

It's just the same tired rhetoric, insults and vulgarity we can typically expect from you.

Anyone who disagrees with you is always wrong. You can't discuss things properly without being abusive, you don't know the meaning of a forum.

I believe a blog would suit you, Wenger knows hasn't been taken yet, off you go son.

Says the c**t who calls other people peadophiles.... Bet your parents are very proud of their "little accident".

You clearly have anger issues kid, obviously not enough attention at home or picked on by the school bully.

Calm down, we're trying to talk about the board here, and I've done nothing but make fair points, while you've lost your head, as usual, a bit like your idol Arsene.

Care to apologise?

[USMartin]

The Sky Sports Podcast of last week covered the whole Arsenal / Wenger / Money and finally some journalists chiefly Neil Ahston and Oliver Holt began to question the Board's ambition and whether or not tha manager had his hands tied financially which I think is a question that should have been raised all along as well as whether or not the Board are in fact satisfied with only finishing top four, and suggesting their refusal to own up to their own ambitions has created much of this furor around the the manager and their performance or lack thereof, which is consistent with AST member at the Q&A asking Ivan Gazidis whether the Board's constant and quite apparently dishonest claims about the funding available to the manager were not actually placing Mr. Wenger under unfair pressure and criticism from the supporters.

It also noted for the record that Cesc Fabregas is on over 100K a week although all I have seen is reports suggesting he would be offered that and no announcement of the club on a new contract extension with him but the last time the club announced any extension was signed was 2006. These reports surfaced in late 2008-2009. Combine that with the fact that the latest Futbol Finance listing of the highest paid players does not record this either I shall wauit to confirm that as fact.

the podcast can be found below (Cheers to Augie for mentioning this btw)

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

download the one dated 10 April and go to exactly the one hour markfor the discussion of concern to Arsenal Supporters.

[USMartin]

And when its mentioned by Oliver Holt I believe that the reason for the breakup of the team of 2001-2005 is understood to be because of financial restrictions that are never really spoken about At Arsenal, remember the reason thety aren't spoken about.

It is NOT because of the cost of new stadium or its financing, but because we had to worry about covering the 120 million extra pounds we borrowed to re-develop Highbury instead of selling a project that has only helped increase the club's share price. It has accomplished nothing else, and perhaps the reason it was never talked about until after it was completed basically is because they knew that was all it would accomplish.

[flash gunner]

Fucking hell OCDMartin!!, i left work at 1.30 yesterday aftenoon and im back here at 7am the next day and youre STILL banging on about the same old load of bollocks

[Arsenal 1991]

Little boy MM99,
99 was obviously your year of birth, come back when you've grown up.

Hahahah, hahahaha, hahahahha, oh my god, that is like so funny. Hahaha, what a great insult! Hahahahha, "is 99 your date of birth", hahahahah! Brilliant! How did you come up with such an insult!

Jeez, i wish i was as witty as you teecee!

(p.s. very convenient that you actually didn't refute the points i made in my post)

You haven't made any points worth responding too, which is why Teecee won't be bothered responding or anyone else.

It's just the same tired rhetoric, insults and vulgarity we can typically expect from you.

Anyone who disagrees with you is always wrong. You can't discuss things properly without being abusive, you don't know the meaning of a forum.

I believe a blog would suit you, Wenger knows hasn't been taken yet, off you go son.

Says the c**t who calls other people peadophiles.... Bet your parents are very proud of their "little accident".

Haha you just proved IG's point!

I'd take a guess that you're about 21?

[Arsenal 1991]

The Sky Sports Podcast of last week covered the whole Arsenal / Wenger / Money and finally some journalists chiefly Neil Ahston and Oliver Holt began to question the Board's ambition and whether or not tha manager had his hands tied financially which I think is a question that should have been raised all along as well as whether or not the Board are in fact satisfied with only finishing top four, and suggesting their refusal to own up to their own ambitions has created much of this furor around the the manager and their performance or lack thereof, which is consistent with AST member at the Q&A asking Ivan Gazidis whether the Board's constant and quite apparently dishonest claims about the funding available to the manager were not actually placing Mr. Wenger under unfair pressure and criticism from the supporters.

It also noted for the record that Cesc Fabregas is on over 100K a week although all I have seen is reports suggesting he would be offered that and no announcement of the club on a new contract extension with him but the last time the club announced any extension was signed was 2006. These reports surfaced in late 2008-2009. Combine that with the fact that the latest Futbol Finance listing of the highest paid players does not record this either I shall wauit to confirm that as fact.

the podcast can be found below (Cheers to Augie for mentioning this btw)

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

download the one dated 10 April and go to exactly the one hour markfor the discussion of concern to Arsenal Supporters.

Wasn't cesc given a back dated pay rise in 2009?

Tim Payton from the Ast has said that it is completely wenger's club. He makes the decisions.

Ollie holt is a twat, who will stick up for the mancs on anything. John cross is the guy from the mirror you should be listening to.

Seriously Martin, why don't you sign up on twitter and there you can get some answers from the journalists and ask people connected to the club questions too. You can also spread your "'message" (if you know what it is) there too.

[flash gunner]

The Sky Sports Podcast of last week covered the whole Arsenal / Wenger / Money and finally some journalists chiefly Neil Ahston and Oliver Holt began to question the Board's ambition and whether or not tha manager had his hands tied financially which I think is a question that should have been raised all along as well as whether or not the Board are in fact satisfied with only finishing top four, and suggesting their refusal to own up to their own ambitions has created much of this furor around the the manager and their performance or lack thereof, which is consistent with AST member at the Q&A asking Ivan Gazidis whether the Board's constant and quite apparently dishonest claims about the funding available to the manager were not actually placing Mr. Wenger under unfair pressure and criticism from the supporters.

It also noted for the record that Cesc Fabregas is on over 100K a week although all I have seen is reports suggesting he would be offered that and no announcement of the club on a new contract extension with him but the last time the club announced any extension was signed was 2006. These reports surfaced in late 2008-2009. Combine that with the fact that the latest Futbol Finance listing of the highest paid players does not record this either I shall wauit to confirm that as fact.

the podcast can be found below (Cheers to Augie for mentioning this btw)

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

download the one dated 10 April and go to exactly the one hour markfor the discussion of concern to Arsenal Supporters.

Wasn't cesc given a back dated pay rise in 2009?

Tim Payton from the Ast has said that it is completely wenger's club. He makes the decisions.

Ollie holt is a twat, who will stick up for the mancs on anything. John cross is the guy from the mirror you should be listening to.

Seriously Martin, why don't you sign up on twitter and there you can get some answers from the journalists and ask people connected to the club questions too. You can also spread your "'message" (if you know what it is) there too.

Wouldnt take long befroe Twitter banned him too

[Arsenal 1991]

The Sky Sports Podcast of last week covered the whole Arsenal / Wenger / Money and finally some journalists chiefly Neil Ahston and Oliver Holt began to question the Board's ambition and whether or not tha manager had his hands tied financially which I think is a question that should have been raised all along as well as whether or not the Board are in fact satisfied with only finishing top four, and suggesting their refusal to own up to their own ambitions has created much of this furor around the the manager and their performance or lack thereof, which is consistent with AST member at the Q&A asking Ivan Gazidis whether the Board's constant and quite apparently dishonest claims about the funding available to the manager were not actually placing Mr. Wenger under unfair pressure and criticism from the supporters.

It also noted for the record that Cesc Fabregas is on over 100K a week although all I have seen is reports suggesting he would be offered that and no announcement of the club on a new contract extension with him but the last time the club announced any extension was signed was 2006. These reports surfaced in late 2008-2009. Combine that with the fact that the latest Futbol Finance listing of the highest paid players does not record this either I shall wauit to confirm that as fact.

the podcast can be found below (Cheers to Augie for mentioning this btw)

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

download the one dated 10 April and go to exactly the one hour markfor the discussion of concern to Arsenal Supporters.

Wasn't cesc given a back dated pay rise in 2009?

Tim Payton from the Ast has said that it is completely wenger's club. He makes the decisions.

Ollie holt is a twat, who will stick up for the mancs on anything. John cross is the guy from the mirror you should be listening to.

Seriously Martin, why don't you sign up on twitter and there you can get some answers from the journalists and ask people connected to the club questions too. You can also spread your "'message" (if you know what it is) there too.

Wouldnt take long befroe Twitter banned him too

They do actually have a daily tweet limit.

It would be beneficial for us all if he did, hopefully it would improve his writing style and then hopefully people might actually be able to see what his point is.

[Boomer]

and after 40 pages I still don't know what that is.

[flash gunner]

and after 40 pages I still don't know what that is.

Not even sure he does anymore Anything to defend Wenger

[woolwichgooner]

HOLD ON did someone say JET is on £20,000! a week???

Come on it can't be true... Can it?

[augie]

I got threatened by pm for something that was nowhere near as offensive as some of the shit on here but yet the thread rumbles on

[USMartin]

Wasn't cesc given a back dated pay rise in 2009?

There is some confusion here. There were reports of this offer being made but no confirmation of any agreement by the club as is customary, nor has there been any appearance of him in the Futbal Finance 50 Highest Paid Players list, though I have not seen a 2010-2011 list from that group so I am hesitant to say it has or has not happened

Tim Payton from the Ast has said that it is completely wenger's club. He makes the decisions. ?

They also were told - again by the Board and Club Officials - that the Stadium Move would have no impact wahatsover on the finances for the football teram which was either an out-and-out on its own lie or a delibearte decpetion because no mention of the potential cost of re-developing Highbury was mentioned.. They were also among the Groups another Board meber revealed the infamous "I'd give back 100 million pounds" story which Mr. Wenger later refuted. Sold they have been told a lot of things and just because the Board told them doesn't make them all true. Doesn't make them all untrue either. But how do you tell which is which?

Ollie holt is a twat, who will stick up for the mancs on anything. John cross is the guy from the mirror you should be listening to.?

All Mr. Holt said in this case are things most of us agree on, which is that there at least were for some time some sort of financial restrictions on the manager in the wake of either the New Stadium move or far more likely the re-development of Highbury, the dispute really being over their length, severity, motives , and necessity. Neil Ashton was the journo with the strongest most serious criticsms of Arsenal, and both Mr. Holt and Patrick Barclay defended the Club really.

Seriously Martin, why don't you sign up on twitter and there you can get some answers from the journalists and ask people connected to the club questions too. You can also spread your "'message" (if you know what it is) there too.

I read Twitter Pages. I think you would agree that's best I stop there. I mean 140 Characters?

[USMartin]

Now I have some quesations if you don't mind 1991?

What exactly is the mission of afcnplc?

How does afcnplc intend to pursue and complete it?

What is afcnplc's plan if the case made for its mission is rejected by the club?

Has anything beyond stating its mission and making it's case been considered?