Jack Wilshere

spendsum4uckingmoney · Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:54 pm

Problem is he doesn't have a position which he excels in. As a DMC he is too rash and is not an athlete like Flamini was; too vulnerable to be a MC as he is injury prone and makes poor decisions such as running with the ball; too slow to be a winger. I remember at the end of the 2012/13 season we were wanting Jack to get out the first team to ensure CL footy and this is kind of the point- he is currently a liability. Unless he does a Ramsey I think he will just be that obligatory player we must play because he is english.

I haven't given up on him but he needs to pack it in and not just pretend to pack it in, such as the cry to Scholes for help. He needs to learn when to release the ball and when to make a run & if he doesn't do it this season then I think he should be moved on.

Post by **Chippy** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:41 pm

I have locked the other thread as we only need on Jack thread. Quite happy to merge them, but that one had been going a while.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:54 pm

Chippy wrote:I have locked the other thread as we only need on Jack thread. Quite happy to merge them, but that one had been going a while.

Good work there Chippy, lock an active thread in place of a vanity thread

I still say he is fucking shit! and a bit of a wanker!!!!!!

1989 · Post by **1989** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:58 pm

He's not shit and granted he is a wanker but he's our wanker.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:03 pm

1989 wrote:He's not shit and granted he is a wanker but he's our wanker.

Oh but he most certainly is and next season will prove it.

Post by **Chippy** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:23 pm

Like I said Sid, quite happy to merge them, but threads need to die occasionally....

clockender1 · Post by **clockender1** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:25 pm

goonersid wrote:
Chippy wrote:I have locked the other thread as we only need on Jack thread. Quite happy to merge them, but that one had been going a while.
Good work there Chippy, lock an active thread in place of a vanity thread
I still say he is fucking shit! and a bit of a wanker!!!!!!

how is this a vanity thread ? - i just posted a story about him learning.

sadly he didn't listen by the look of it....

Piece.

Theoperator · Post by **Theoperator** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:06 pm

Question- why does JAck take the brunt of all opposition fans? he always seems to get booed

(Im pretty sure its the away fans

)

Arsenal Till I Die · Post by **Arsenal Till I Die** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:16 pm

Chippy wrote:Like I said Sid, quite happy to merge them, but threads need to die occasionally....

Probably best to.

Seems a bit silly to lock the more active thread unless you did so because it was more anti-Jack from the start than this?

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:11 pm

Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Chippy wrote:Like I said Sid, quite happy to merge them, but threads need to die occasionally....
Probably best to.

Seems a bit silly to lock the more active thread unless you did so because it was more anti-Jack from the start than this?

Ah the conspiracy theory.

Not at all. When I came across this thread it had already got about 15 posts and one of those was from a mod who didn't merge them. Sometimes threads get a bit leggy after a few months and as this one went of in a slightly different direction I thought I'd lock the other one. What a bastard eh?

You guys are really funny sometimes.

There used to be a time if we merged threads the pitchforks would be out. Never mind I'll merge them now and wait for some fcuker to whinge about that.

Peace.

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:14 pm

Peace

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:51 pm

Chippy wrote:
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Chippy wrote:Like I said Sid, quite happy to merge them, but threads need to die occasionally....
Probably best to.

Seems a bit silly to lock the more active thread unless you did so because it was more anti-Jack from the start than this?
Ah the conspiracy theory. Not at all. When I came across this thread it had already got about 15 posts and one of those was from a mod who didn't merge them. Sometimes threads get a bit leggy after a few months and as this one went of in a slightly different direction I thought I'd lock the other one. What a bastard eh?

You guys are really funny sometimes. There used to be a time if we merged threads the pitchforks would be out. Never mind I'll merge them now and wait for some fcuker to whinge about that.

Peace.

I feel your pain Chippy.

I still reckon my idea of banning everyone except us mods is a goer!

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:07 pm

Yes............is the answer to the original question!!

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:34 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:
Chippy wrote:
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Chippy wrote:Like I said Sid, quite happy to merge them, but threads need to die occasionally....
Probably best to.

Seems a bit silly to lock the more active thread unless you did so because it was more anti-Jack from the start than this?
Ah the conspiracy theory. Not at all. When I came across this thread it had already got about 15 posts and one of those was from a mod who didn't merge them. Sometimes threads get a bit leggy after a few months and as this one went of in a slightly different direction I thought I'd lock the other one. What a bastard eh?

You guys are really funny sometimes. There used to be a time if we merged threads the pitchforks would be out. Never mind I'll merge them now and wait for some fcuker to whinge about that.

Peace.
I feel your pain Chippy.

I still reckon my idea of banning everyone except us mods is a goer!

BAN THE BASTARDS. BAN THE BASTARDS.

PISSFLAPS

spendsum4uckingmoney · Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:36 pm

I have been thinking and whilst it is clear that Jack ATM is a liability, a sort of obligation that we must play despite not having dominated a position, he is less of a liability on the right wing.

Think about it- Jack likes to run with the ball. He likes to cut inside. He isn't particularly all the fast either or physical so a cutting in right hand sider would be his ideal role. Now there is a problem and that is it generally doesn't work to have 2 inside wingers and Cazorla will probably be played on the left so here's how if I were manager and had to play Wilshere, would line up:

--------------------------Sir Chez--------------

Dabouchy------Kosch-----Merty/new cb----------Gibbs or a new LB

------------------------DMC-------------------
---------------------
--Ramsey------------------------------
-------------------------------------Cazorla---------------

-----Wilshere------------------------------------------Ozil/Pod/New left footed LWF

----------------------Sanchez-----------------------------

The only problem I see is that left wing maybe a bit slow and Wilshere isnt all that fast either.

I think, and bare in mind I am resigned to accepting Ozil is staying, Podolski & Arteta should be shown the door so we can get Di Maria or Griezman.

If we do that then we will have a squad just about big enough and talented enough, whilst accommodating Wilshere.

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