As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
augie wrote:Before you lot get distracted in some sort of reminising fest can I just say that the fact that we score more goals away from home might have more due to the fact that teams actually come out and play in front of their home fans where as when they come to the grove it is park the bus time Add to that the fact the pitches like the hawthorns are smaller pitches and would naturally suit those less mibile but big physical strikers like bedtner
that's obviously true of course. And it's true for any of the top clubs.
Thing is, I don't think we've scored less at home than away from home in recent memory despite of that. And the other top clubs don't either, or at least not as significantly less (Man Utd 43-24, Liverpool 38-34, Chelsea 31-32. Arsenal in previous season: 37-37, 43-20, 48-20, 54-33
Only twice has a top 4 team scored less away from home than at home in that period (Chelsea in 2004 by two and Chelsea in this season by 1)
So while that's a factor, it's nothing more than that. Teams score more at home than away from home.
Bendtner misses less chances away from home than at home btw, significantly less.
Once again, thanks to hadareud, aka STATTO STATTO STATTO STATTO...
Eboue-Why? wrote:Anyway, if I'd have been there I'd would have brought up the old chestnut of why we moved to the new stadium:
'We have to move in order to compete with the Uniteds etc'
So is my £1061.04 (I'm really starting to hate that figure now) going towards paying off the stadium or investing in the squad?
What was the point of moving if all we've done is saddled ourselves with a white elephant for the next 18 years?
So Arsene, before you criticise me as a fan, please could we have the truth over whether financially this move has backfired?
That's the same as my renewal figure BTW, E-W? Where do you sit in the white elephant ?
Right well I'll leave it to you to ask them on our behalf........WHERE DOES THE BLOODY 4p COME FROM?!?!
Block 12
I wish I knew mate....
One thing we can be sure of is that the ST costs £906.00!!!
(Total £1061.04 - less the cup games £155.04 = £906.
Therefore the 0.04 is somewhere in the cup games. I had a hutch but now can't be arsed that it's in connection to the VAT rate. The CAT A game where originally £49 and now £47.
The figure £47 is a rounded figure and the actual price would have been £47.96. That's a difference of £1.04!!!!
So, Wenger acknowledges that yes, he is p!ssed off by the minority of home fans who boo, then people interpret it as attack on all fans, or rather them. For pity’s sake - he’s just pointing out that he doesn’t like it and that far from encouraging players it discourages them. He always agrees that fans have a right to complain, but feels this is the wrong way to do it. People outside Arsenal, especially in Europe, can’t believe that anyone in their right mind could turn on a man who has given us so much.
People talk about Wenger as if he doesn’t but this is a man whose every waking moment is spent thinking about Arsenal, a man who famously goes home and spends half the night watching and re-watching a defeat to try to work out what went wrong. He may make mistakes, but believe me, he cares.
Gunslinger’s made the point that if Wenger worked in venture capital he’d be out. True, because the corrupt, asset-stripping people who operate in that field are only ever interested in lining their pockets today and getting out by tomorrow lunchtime. No interest in the long-term whatsoever. Oh sure, let’s sack the second most successful manager in football history for failing to come higher than 3rd for a few years. Wenger is trying to build something that will still be successful when he’s gone, without breaking the bank or taking dodgy money from dubious benefactors. I don’t even care if he fails because he has tried to build success, not buy it, and in the meantime given us some amazing football, something we hadn’t had at Arsenal for decades.
Behind all this is this assumption that we are doing badly. Well we’re not. There are 92 clubs in the full league and we’re 4th. That’s pretty good in my book. The collapses against Man U and Chelsea have gutted me and yes, there are some changes needed. Replacing a few poisonous, lazy wasters will be a good start but there is nobody better suited than Wenger to do the job.
So come on the anti-Wenger brigade, answer these questions:
1) who should Wenger have bought last summer who was a) actually available and b) available at a realistic price with similarly realistic wage demands - I don’t mean affordable, just realistic. Forget players (like Alonso) who were only available if other parts of a chain went through.
2) if not Wenger, who?
PS - I was at the AST meeting on Monday and only a couple out of 100+ people said anything derogatory about individual players so it’s not as bad as you might think. The meeting was very positive on the whole. Incidentally Wenger wasn’t there, just Ivan Gazidis, and to be honest I doubt they would have had the nerve to say anything in front of the manager.
So, Wenger acknowledges that yes, he is p!ssed off by the minority of home fans who boo, then people interpret it as attack on all fans, or rather them. For pity’s sake - he’s just pointing out that he doesn’t like it and that far from encouraging players it discourages them. He always agrees that fans have a right to complain, but feels this is the wrong way to do it. People outside Arsenal, especially in Europe, can’t believe that anyone in their right mind could turn on a man who has given us so much.
People talk about Wenger as if he doesn’t but this is a man whose every waking moment is spent thinking about Arsenal, a man who famously goes home and spends half the night watching and re-watching a defeat to try to work out what went wrong. He may make mistakes, but believe me, he cares.
Gunslinger’s made the point that if Wenger worked in venture capital he’d be out. True, because the corrupt, asset-stripping people who operate in that field are only ever interested in lining their pockets today and getting out by tomorrow lunchtime. No interest in the long-term whatsoever. Oh sure, let’s sack the second most successful manager in football history for failing to come higher than 3rd for a few years. Wenger is trying to build something that will still be successful when he’s gone, without breaking the bank or taking dodgy money from dubious benefactors. I don’t even care if he fails because he has tried to build success, not buy it, and in the meantime given us some amazing football, something we hadn’t had at Arsenal for decades.
Behind all this is this assumption that we are doing badly. Well we’re not. There are 92 clubs in the full league and we’re 4th. That’s pretty good in my book. The collapses against Man U and Chelsea have gutted me and yes, there are some changes needed. Replacing a few poisonous, lazy wasters will be a good start but there is nobody better suited than Wenger to do the job.
So come on the anti-Wenger brigade, answer these questions:
1) who should Wenger have bought last summer who was a) actually available and b) available at a realistic price with similarly realistic wage demands - I don’t mean affordable, just realistic. Forget players (like Alonso) who were only available if other parts of a chain went through.
2) if not Wenger, who?
PS - I was at the AST meeting on Monday and only a couple out of 100+ people said anything derogatory about individual players so it’s not as bad as you might think. The meeting was very positive on the whole. Incidentally Wenger wasn’t there, just Ivan Gazidis, and to be honest I doubt they would have had the nerve to say anything in front of the manager.
You have asked us to name players that were available, then in the next breath tell us we can't name a player who was available and who we actually enquired about, and despite your claims that he could only come as part of a deal, benitez would have sold him in a flash!
As for who instead of aw, Moyes, Van Gaal (too late now gone to munich), Advocaat, Rijkaard, Hiddink(don't know in less you ask) the list could go on. Wenger is not Arsenal football club why can't some people see that!
So, Wenger acknowledges that yes, he is p!ssed off by the minority of home fans who boo, then people interpret it as attack on all fans, or rather them. For pity’s sake - he’s just pointing out that he doesn’t like it and that far from encouraging players it discourages them. He always agrees that fans have a right to complain, but feels this is the wrong way to do it. People outside Arsenal, especially in Europe, can’t believe that anyone in their right mind could turn on a man who has given us so much.
People talk about Wenger as if he doesn’t but this is a man whose every waking moment is spent thinking about Arsenal, a man who famously goes home and spends half the night watching and re-watching a defeat to try to work out what went wrong. He may make mistakes, but believe me, he cares.
Gunslinger’s made the point that if Wenger worked in venture capital he’d be out. True, because the corrupt, asset-stripping people who operate in that field are only ever interested in lining their pockets today and getting out by tomorrow lunchtime. No interest in the long-term whatsoever. Oh sure, let’s sack the second most successful manager in football history for failing to come higher than 3rd for a few years. Wenger is trying to build something that will still be successful when he’s gone, without breaking the bank or taking dodgy money from dubious benefactors. I don’t even care if he fails because he has tried to build success, not buy it, and in the meantime given us some amazing football, something we hadn’t had at Arsenal for decades.
Behind all this is this assumption that we are doing badly. Well we’re not. There are 92 clubs in the full league and we’re 4th. That’s pretty good in my book. The collapses against Man U and Chelsea have gutted me and yes, there are some changes needed. Replacing a few poisonous, lazy wasters will be a good start but there is nobody better suited than Wenger to do the job.
So come on the anti-Wenger brigade, answer these questions:
1) who should Wenger have bought last summer who was a) actually available and b) available at a realistic price with similarly realistic wage demands - I don’t mean affordable, just realistic. Forget players (like Alonso) who were only available if other parts of a chain went through.
2) if not Wenger, who?
PS - I was at the AST meeting on Monday and only a couple out of 100+ people said anything derogatory about individual players so it’s not as bad as you might think. The meeting was very positive on the whole. Incidentally Wenger wasn’t there, just Ivan Gazidis, and to be honest I doubt they would have had the nerve to say anything in front of the manager.
FUCKING FANTASTIC POST RAMON
and just for goonersid who thinks that if AW walks early next season it wouldn't be a moment too soon, I've only one thing to say - you are fucking ridiculous
So, Wenger acknowledges that yes, he is p!ssed off by the minority of home fans who boo, then people interpret it as attack on all fans, or rather them. For pity’s sake - he’s just pointing out that he doesn’t like it and that far from encouraging players it discourages them. He always agrees that fans have a right to complain, but feels this is the wrong way to do it. People outside Arsenal, especially in Europe, can’t believe that anyone in their right mind could turn on a man who has given us so much.
People talk about Wenger as if he doesn’t but this is a man whose every waking moment is spent thinking about Arsenal, a man who famously goes home and spends half the night watching and re-watching a defeat to try to work out what went wrong. He may make mistakes, but believe me, he cares.
Gunslinger’s made the point that if Wenger worked in venture capital he’d be out. True, because the corrupt, asset-stripping people who operate in that field are only ever interested in lining their pockets today and getting out by tomorrow lunchtime. No interest in the long-term whatsoever. Oh sure, let’s sack the second most successful manager in football history for failing to come higher than 3rd for a few years. Wenger is trying to build something that will still be successful when he’s gone, without breaking the bank or taking dodgy money from dubious benefactors. I don’t even care if he fails because he has tried to build success, not buy it, and in the meantime given us some amazing football, something we hadn’t had at Arsenal for decades.
Behind all this is this assumption that we are doing badly. Well we’re not. There are 92 clubs in the full league and we’re 4th. That’s pretty good in my book. The collapses against Man U and Chelsea have gutted me and yes, there are some changes needed. Replacing a few poisonous, lazy wasters will be a good start but there is nobody better suited than Wenger to do the job.
So come on the anti-Wenger brigade, answer these questions:
1) who should Wenger have bought last summer who was a) actually available and b) available at a realistic price with similarly realistic wage demands - I don’t mean affordable, just realistic. Forget players (like Alonso) who were only available if other parts of a chain went through.
2) if not Wenger, who?
PS - I was at the AST meeting on Monday and only a couple out of 100+ people said anything derogatory about individual players so it’s not as bad as you might think. The meeting was very positive on the whole. Incidentally Wenger wasn’t there, just Ivan Gazidis, and to be honest I doubt they would have had the nerve to say anything in front of the manager.
FUCKING FANTASTIC POST RAMON
and just for goonersid who thinks that if AW walks early next season it wouldn't be a moment too soon, I've only one thing to say - you are fucking ridiculous
The final points in his arguement don't stand up, there are other managers, and there were players available, and not to sign a defensive midfielder, and not to play Arshavin in the fa cup was as you put it "fucking ridiculous"
Plus i am of the belief that there is a massive change in the reckoning and I thin you will definitely see more harmonious squad next season which will challenge - remember offensively its not the problem - ithe f#ng defence
WHAT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO READ THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS…TRUE GUNNERS EACH ONE..WELL DONE LADS WE WILL STILL BE AROUND WHEN ALL OTHERS GO DOWN THE PAN..ENJOY THE SUMMER MADNESS ITS ABOUT TO BEGIN……
ramon wrote:Plus i am of the belief that there is a massive change in the reckoning and I thin you will definitely see more harmonious squad next season which will challenge - remember offensively its not the problem - ithe f#ng defence
ramon wrote:Plus i am of the belief that there is a massive change in the reckoning and I thin you will definitely see more harmonious squad next season which will challenge - remember offensively its not the problem - ithe f#ng defence
Actually, it's the midfield, and to a lesser extent, the strikers. Amongst other inadequacies, the midfield don't provide enough protection to the defence, which results in far too much pressure on the defence.
I'd be happy with Sagna Djourou Toure Clichy to challenge for silverware.
Actually, it's the midfield, and to a lesser extent, the strikers. Amongst other inadequacies, the midfield don't provide enough protection to the defence, which results in far too much pressure on the defence.
I'd be happy with Sagna Djourou Toure Clichy to challenge for silverware.[/quote]
I doubt if either of those ch would make the bench for any of the top 3 clubs, nor the starting line up of some clubs below us, eg everton.
GOONERSID- YOU MISERABLE MISERABLE person- you along with the other hippies on this site are a joke.
all you do is constantly negate this team and think by spreading this negativity you'll achieve something but you know what NO DOING!!
Add to that the fact the pitches like the hawthorns are smaller pitches and would naturally suit those less mibile but big physical strikers like bedtner
