UEFA investigating "dive"

[Natural Born Gooner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ZY9sJe ... 42&index=4

Good vid!

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Cannot understand the hypocrisy from some fans on here I really cant
For the last few seasons we have slagged off rooney, gamst pederson and any other c**t that has dared to dive against us but as soon as it is one of our own some defend him and some actually applaud him Cheating should be stopped end of story and anybody, whether they talk normally or in some 3rd person bullshit, that thinks otherwise is not a football fan. A clampdown here wouldnt be the start of it or setting a dangerous precedent cos not alone was it done with that lithuaian but it also happened with rivaldo after his disgraceful dive holding his face a few years back

Anyway I would accept a ban for eduado as long as this practice was continued in every single occasion that it happens in european compition down the line but of course it is doubtful that will happen aint it.

A quick question though........if it was eboue that dived would most of you guys defend him like you have done eduardo ?

hmmmmmm, why a ban, if the ref thinks you dived then you get a YELLOW card, not sent off

If he misses the incident and it is reviewed why would they then turn it into a RED

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Cannot understand the hypocrisy from some fans on here I really cant
For the last few seasons we have slagged off rooney, gamst pederson and any other c**t that has dared to dive against us but as soon as it is one of our own some defend him and some actually applaud him Cheating should be stopped end of story and anybody, whether they talk normally or in some 3rd person bullshit, that thinks otherwise is not a football fan. A clampdown here wouldnt be the start of it or setting a dangerous precedent cos not alone was it done with that lithuaian but it also happened with rivaldo after his disgraceful dive holding his face a few years back

Anyway I would accept a ban for eduado as long as this practice was continued in every single occasion that it happens in european compition down the line but of course it is doubtful that will happen aint it.

A quick question though........if it was eboue that dived would most of you guys defend him like you have done eduardo ?

Did you not love bobby pires? Hypocrisy is rife, seems to be an epidemic

[augie]

You have raised a good point there leftfoot re the fact that if a player is caught out doing it in a game then he only gets punished with a yellow so giving him a ban afterwards does seem harsh then. The fact that I havent questioned this line of action in the past is probably down to the fact that if it didnt involve one of our players then I couldnt give a fcuk

The thing is though that for the last 2 seasons I have listened to fans slating eboue for his antics and labelling him a disgrace to the club and I have to say that it was a line of thought that I 100% agreed with. Of course eboue is a repeat offender but the action itself is the very same and should be judged the same whether the guilty party is eduardo, eboue, gerrard, rooney or whoever. I was embarrassed with the dive last night in the same way that I was when bob dived v pompey and eboue for his 691 dives v various opposition The fact that it is goes on in football doesnt make it acceptable but I do agree that if a player only gets a yellow in the game then uefa should not be allowed put in a retrospect ban now

[franksav63]

Cannot understand the hypocrisy from some fans on here I really cant
For the last few seasons we have slagged off rooney, gamst pederson and any other c**t that has dared to dive against us but as soon as it is one of our own some defend him and some actually applaud him Cheating should be stopped end of story and anybody, whether they talk normally or in some 3rd person bullshit, that thinks otherwise is not a football fan. A clampdown here wouldnt be the start of it or setting a dangerous precedent cos not alone was it done with that lithuaian but it also happened with rivaldo after his disgraceful dive holding his face a few years back

Anyway I would accept a ban for eduado as long as this practice was continued in every single occasion that it happens in european compition down the line but of course it is doubtful that will happen aint it.

A quick question though........if it was eboue that dived would most of you guys defend him like you have done eduardo ?

hmmmmmm, why a ban, if the ref thinks you dived then you get a YELLOW card, not sent off

If he misses the incident and it is reviewed why would they then turn it into a RED

Great point Left Foot, can you get a job for UEFA...

[hadareud]

I especially loved it when Young took a dive and won a penalty tonight against Rapid Vienna.

Outrage? A horrible person?

Not according to the pundits. He "did very well to win a penalty".

That's odd.

[SteveO 35]

I especially loved it when Young took a dive and won a penalty tonight against Rapid Vienna.

Outrage? A horrible person?

Not according to the pundits. He "did very well to win a penalty".

That's odd.

Yes, strange that isn't it. I seem to remember another Eng-er-lund boy, Stevie G, taking a fucking outrageous dive against Atletico at Anfield last year in the last minute. That was 'well won' as well.

Nothing to do with them being English of course....only foreigners dive don't they ?

[pixie]

As mentioned the key in consistency. We had a similar situation a number of years ago where Cashley got suspended for using foul and abusive language towards a referee. At least that set the precedent and everyone now gets charged when caught giving them abuse
Arsenal should employ someone to catalogue all controversial incidents in the Champions League and Prem. When a potential charge is levelled at us like this, we just produce the evidence (to both the governing body and the media) that others are being treated differently. It would soon show up any inconsistency and reflect badly on the disciplinary process.

It’s no good Wenger complaining about Babel now, that is water under the bridge but if they do go after Eddie we need ammunition to fight back.

Everyone except Rooney that is........

[Charlie! Charlie!]

Radford appreciates that you don't want him banned but be careful what you wish for. the game is the game and it should be left alone. cheating as Radford has stated IS part of the game. and anyone who has played sport will agree. and those who don't are living in a dream world

I play in a 5-a-side league as the main defender. I'm quite happy, if need be, to pull a player back or foul him if he gets passed me... so I can't say I'm against cheating, as I'm as guilty as most. (I would also happily dive to win my team a penalty) - but it doesn't make it right.

as Radford said its a part of the game and sport in general. the bit about it not being right is as far as Radford is concerned a load of bollocks. so can we not take the moral high ground over Eddie.

So, I think it IS part of football and always has been, but if UEFA/FIFA decide to tackle the problem then it can't be half hearted and ban one guy and let 10 others off the hook... it needs consistency.

there is not a problem to tackle. all this santamonious bullshit makes Radford sick and its pathetic

So, do I want Eduardo banned? no. Do I desperately want video evidence used? not overly. BUT if Eduardo is banned as part of a new consistent disciplinary panel, then I'd accept it in the knowledge that if Rooney, Gerrard or Owen dives against us, they would be banned too! - but can anyone really ever see that level of consistency happening?

Radford believes vidoe evidence will be a load of rubbish. where will it start and stop.

I agree, if video eveidence is introduced for one thing then the managers will then just moan about other incidents and ask why they cant be reviewed. Soon every throw in, corner, fowl etc will be looked at and it will be a fucking nonsense.

[Charlie! Charlie!]

I especially loved it when Young took a dive and won a penalty tonight against Rapid Vienna.

Outrage? A horrible person?

Not according to the pundits. He "did very well to win a penalty".

That's odd.

Didn't see this - was it a dive?

[hadareud]

I especially loved it when Young took a dive and won a penalty tonight against Rapid Vienna.

Outrage? A horrible person?

Not according to the pundits. He "did very well to win a penalty".

That's odd.

Didn't see this - was it a dive?

the first one was

[Charlie! Charlie!]

I especially loved it when Young took a dive and won a penalty tonight against Rapid Vienna.

Outrage? A horrible person?

Not according to the pundits. He "did very well to win a penalty".

That's odd.

Didn't see this - was it a dive?

the first one was

Can't see it all over the back pages today?

[RoscommonGooner]

First of all I hated seeing what Eddie did the other night. To me it looked a blatent dive, and, in my opinion he let himself down big time.

Secondly, the media witch-hunt which is going on now is nothing sort of disgraceful. I would say that they too have let themselves down but there is no lower for them to go.

Thirdly, the whole idea of a ban is crazy to me. I know that a precedent has been set in the case of that Lithuanian guy but surely this too was wrong. If the referee had judged the incident to be a dive during the game he would have got a yellow card and that would have been the end of it. But because the ref got it wrong we now have a trial by media (and the Scottish FA).

BTW, is what that guy in the SFA is saying any worse that a player gesturing at the ref to give another player a yellow card in the course of a game? Another dispicable act IMO.

[Radford149]

Radford now says .....ITS NOW JUST A FUCKING WITCH HUNT