"Liverpool could face points loss"

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Post by Henry Norris 1913 »

yeah US Martin is looking more like a troll every day :?
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Look just becausem you are a living breathing embodiment if the word *word censored* don't try and foist fals titles on me just to undermine views that even if proven true boynd all dioubt youlack the integrity or course to acknowledge

Did they tall you you couldn't use olcuntgunner for your handle because I that hasn't stopped behaving that way.
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he isn't a troll, he just a sad, sad boring man with an unhealthy obsession with the financial side of a football team
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MM99 wrote:
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g88ner wrote:
USMartin wrote:[Maybe I have given you too much credit, g88ner. I used to think that it was simply bering consistent about all matters, but if you're telling me he takes seriously the possibility of this hapopoening at Arsenal and is genuinely worried about it then in fact I underestinated you, and have to think you are simply standing up for mates rather than try ing hioonestly.
That's ridiculous, Martin. Obviously, I cannot say whether MM99 is worried or not because he hasn't said either way, so unless you or I are mind readers, then how the fuck are we supposed to know?! :? :lol:

You say it's CLEAR that he'd rather pretend it couldn't happen to us, yet read his post and, not only does he NOT say that, but he CLEARLY points out that "it could happen to Wolves, it could happen to us" - now, you could have asked him to expand on his views, but why bother when you're more than happy to make his mind up for him, and bypass the whole discussion. After all, it might just bait him into replying anyway, so who cares about putting words in his mouth, eh?! :lol: :wink:

If you think i've been inconsistent, then fine, but I think I've been pretty consistent in suggesting you should stop putting words in people's mouth, and, in my opinion, you've done it again. I just don't think it's necessary, as there's enough to debate as it is without seeking out extra material that isn't necessarily there.
The fact that he suggests it can happen to Wolves the same way it could to ignoires the fact that we in fact appear to be selling out and the likely buyer has just lost a lot of money that could have gone toward buying the club that he has put into fully taking over an American team. The idea hthat it is likely to happen at Wolves at Arsenal given those facts is utterly dismissive of the possibility at this point.

Any boat can sink but that doesn't mean a boat you know has holes in it is no more likely to sink than one you no does not simply because they both might. This is clearly him dismissing the issue or else he is showing a tiny bit of unawareness or ignorance of the facts behind it.

Then his whole debt lkeverage is bad we know that is asimilalrly dismaissive. Its not simply bad at all it could either see us enter into a decline of indefinite severity and length, or even could see us end up like Liverpool now or dareisay it Leeds. I don't think it's merely bad by a long shot.
What on earth are you blabbing about? Why are you going into minute details that have nothing to do with my original point? I thought g88ner had adequately made clear how you were wrong in your reply to me and yet you've managed to dodge acceptance by bringing up an irrelevant topic!

I never said that what could happen to us could happen to Wolves IN THE EXACT SAME WAY. Why are you putting words into my mouth again? I wasn't going in that much depth, all i was saying was that EVERY club in this league can succumb to a debt leverage buy out. That doesn't mean that i was saying each takeover would be EXACTLY identical :roll:

Also, if you didn't understand my "yes martin, we know debt leverage is bad" let me explan it again. I am NOT, repeat, NOT, being dismissive of the dangers of a debt leverage buy out. Nor am i downplaying the consequences it could potentailly have on us as a club. All i am saying is that you talking about it is like saying to people that if you run into a busy road you could get hit by a car. You are pointing out the obvious where you have no need to for the sake of creating another post about the board. When having a conversation with friends of mine i don't suddenly shout out "Be aware you don't stick your hand in the electrical plug! You could get electrocuted!" That is what your original post was like in this thread as you in essence shouted out "Debt leverage is potentially bad! We must be aware of it!"

My point being that we all know that debt leverage buy outs could potentially end very badly and put us in a shit position, but it just didn't need pointing out. Hopefully you won't conjur up another "argument" to shift responsibility and are man enough to admit you were wrong.
I certainly am man enough to admit when I'm wrong. I am also man enough to stand firm when I believe I am right though, and I believe I am right.

Why even bring up any other club, when our sole concern in this discussion and altogether is Arsenal? You may fool some people but the fact is you are suggesting that we are no more likely to be part of a debt-leveraged takeover than any other club which is clearly not the case. I'm sorry but if you believe otherwise than you are dismissing the threat of such a take-over at Arsenal, which is far greater than at other clubs in the Premiership atthis time..

I would also suggest trying to reduce my point to debt levarge is bad is dismissive of the point athat debt leverage could see us in adminstartion like Leeds. I'd suggest that's just a tiny bit more serious than merely "bad".Actually it's far more serious and so is expressing that concern.

And yours is a dismissive attitude on either of these points. The best you could say is you have failed to express your more genuine concerns adequately and I can't even honestly give you that benefit of the doubt here.
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US MARTIN RULES................at least he's doing something!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you doing?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean he's in double figures in his petition which shows just how much he is doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :barscarf: :barscarf:
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USMartin wrote:
Look just becausem you are a living breathing embodiment if the word c**t don't try and foist fals titles on me just to undermine views that even if proven true boynd all dioubt youlack the integrity or course to acknowledge

Did they tall you you couldn't use olcuntgunner for your handle because I that hasn't stopped behaving that way.
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Oh dear. Feathers fully ruffled, then. Can't even control your fingers on the keyboard.

You are a troll.

I'm not a *word censored* (or a twat, liar, ass, hypocrite, asshole, etc, as you have previously called me).

Me and the other people you have grossly insulted on here are victims of your twisted views. You have accused people of all manner of wrongdoings. You have been presented with valid argument which you have attempted to negate by distortion of their words. And pure invention.

You have already been banned from another forum for misbehaviour. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I have yet to hear of anyone being banned for spelling mistakes. :roll:

Since you appeared on these pages you have consistently hijacked threads to draw people in to your anti-board diatribe. Further, you have insulted those people who objected to this, or who took issue with your viewpoint.

In short, this forum has become a less pleasant place since your arrival.
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Oh, USM please let me know when you are next in London.

I'd like to give you the opportunity of calling me a *word censored* to my face. :wink:
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US MARTIN IS LIKE MY MUM AND DAD.

MUM: ALWAYS RITE

DAD: NEVER WRONG

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Can I just add that I am very happy with the board and its performance in the past few years. Thank you :barscarf:
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Iceman29 wrote:Can I just add that I am very happy with the board and its performance in the past few years. Thank you :barscarf:
Oh great. Start him off again, why doncha?! :worried: :wink:
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What the hell.....the sneeky devil :wink:

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Davey, can I quote you on that? :D
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sorry mate i didnt quite catch that, what did you say? :lol: :wink:
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Yankee doodle doo's witch hunt against the board has created more allies for the board then there actually were before. His entire campaign has actually had a reverse effect. If the Board should actually become unpopular any time in the future, they should hire him to publish his manual on corporate governance on various forums and they'll be popular again
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