absolutely.SCREAM AIM FIRE wrote:I'm hoping his performance tonight was due to his injury, was awful.
so there´s no need for barca to sign him in summer

Give some other examples of players single handedly taking a big game and turning it around- Henry v Liverpool 04, Messi v us last year, Beckham v Greece 01 spring to mind but it doesn't happen that often, so it's a strange criticism to make...northbankbren wrote:He had an awful game, but clearly want fit. BUT that doesn’t detract from one thing he IS overrated. He has been our best player since Henry left, up until this year that is. Nasri and even young Jack Wilshere have been more consistent in their performances this season in my opinion. I’d actually go as far as saying he’s probably no longer our best player and Nasri probably hold that mantle. Ted Baker also mentioned teams who had player who really stands up to be counted and he’s spot on. When it boils down to the really big games Fabregas has never single headedly taken a game and turned it around, the only time I can ever remember him doing it was his sub performance against villa away last season. He also doesn’t have the work rate and passion that Wilshere is showing, and Nasri is a far more threatening player to opposition defences.
Now don’t get me wrong he is a class player. But not a leader and not as good as he’s made out to be. I’d love him to stay but it’s inevitable he’ll be going. Seeing him in the tunnel before the game kinda summed him up really. So I’d say sadly lets cash in for the biggest amount while we can this summer. Nothing worse than seeing him go for we’ll under market value the way Henry did. Id say £40-50mill.
I usually respect what you say, but this is a load of rubbish.northbankbren wrote:He had an awful game, but clearly want fit. BUT that doesn’t detract from one thing he IS overrated. He has been our best player since Henry left, up until this year that is. Nasri and even young Jack Wilshere have been more consistent in their performances this season in my opinion. I’d actually go as far as saying he’s probably no longer our best player and Nasri probably hold that mantle. Ted Baker also mentioned teams who had player who really stands up to be counted and he’s spot on. When it boils down to the really big games Fabregas has never single headedly taken a game and turned it around, the only time I can ever remember him doing it was his sub performance against villa away last season. He also doesn’t have the work rate and passion that Wilshere is showing, and Nasri is a far more threatening player to opposition defences.
Now don’t get me wrong he is a class player. But not a leader and not as good as he’s made out to be. I’d love him to stay but it’s inevitable he’ll be going. Seeing him in the tunnel before the game kinda summed him up really. So I’d say sadly lets cash in for the biggest amount while we can this summer. Nothing worse than seeing him go for we’ll under market value the way Henry did. Id say £40-50mill.
I too am a big fan of Cesc, but I do feel he has developed a habit of not turning up for the big games.Arsenal 1991 wrote:I usually respect what you say, but this is a load of rubbish.northbankbren wrote:He had an awful game, but clearly want fit. BUT that doesn’t detract from one thing he IS overrated. He has been our best player since Henry left, up until this year that is. Nasri and even young Jack Wilshere have been more consistent in their performances this season in my opinion. I’d actually go as far as saying he’s probably no longer our best player and Nasri probably hold that mantle. Ted Baker also mentioned teams who had player who really stands up to be counted and he’s spot on. When it boils down to the really big games Fabregas has never single headedly taken a game and turned it around, the only time I can ever remember him doing it was his sub performance against villa away last season. He also doesn’t have the work rate and passion that Wilshere is showing, and Nasri is a far more threatening player to opposition defences.
Now don’t get me wrong he is a class player. But not a leader and not as good as he’s made out to be. I’d love him to stay but it’s inevitable he’ll be going. Seeing him in the tunnel before the game kinda summed him up really. So I’d say sadly lets cash in for the biggest amount while we can this summer. Nothing worse than seeing him go for we’ll under market value the way Henry did. Id say £40-50mill.
Nasri and Jack are nowhere near Cesc's level yet. They are very talented players but I don't think they could run a game like Cesc does. We really miss an inform cesc. He keeps the play moving along and then can spring that one pass over the top and we're through. We really suffer without him.
I really hope we don't get to see what life without Cesc is like for a long time.
For Arsenal certainly, but it must be difficult with the teams hes had to play in, in the big games. I kind of agree with that point, I was more responding to him saying that he was overrated and Nasri is better.goonersid wrote:I too am a big fan of Cesc, but I do feel he has developed a habit of not turning up for the big games.Arsenal 1991 wrote:I usually respect what you say, but this is a load of rubbish.northbankbren wrote:He had an awful game, but clearly want fit. BUT that doesn’t detract from one thing he IS overrated. He has been our best player since Henry left, up until this year that is. Nasri and even young Jack Wilshere have been more consistent in their performances this season in my opinion. I’d actually go as far as saying he’s probably no longer our best player and Nasri probably hold that mantle. Ted Baker also mentioned teams who had player who really stands up to be counted and he’s spot on. When it boils down to the really big games Fabregas has never single headedly taken a game and turned it around, the only time I can ever remember him doing it was his sub performance against villa away last season. He also doesn’t have the work rate and passion that Wilshere is showing, and Nasri is a far more threatening player to opposition defences.
Now don’t get me wrong he is a class player. But not a leader and not as good as he’s made out to be. I’d love him to stay but it’s inevitable he’ll be going. Seeing him in the tunnel before the game kinda summed him up really. So I’d say sadly lets cash in for the biggest amount while we can this summer. Nothing worse than seeing him go for we’ll under market value the way Henry did. Id say £40-50mill.
Nasri and Jack are nowhere near Cesc's level yet. They are very talented players but I don't think they could run a game like Cesc does. We really miss an inform cesc. He keeps the play moving along and then can spring that one pass over the top and we're through. We really suffer without him.
I really hope we don't get to see what life without Cesc is like for a long time.
Lets see if he plays against utd at the weekend or will Wenger protect him from any fallout from last nights result.
Also learnt when in doubt give it a clout.Rugby Gooner wrote:Rule 1: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 2: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 3: Never pass the ball towards your own box. etc,etc,etc.
We were taught that in the Junior School football team!
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How many times do we fuck about instead of getting rid? Its Wengers philosphyRugby Gooner wrote:Rule 1: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 2: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 3: Never pass the ball towards your own box. etc,etc,etc.
We were taught that in the Junior School football team!
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Your extra Centre Half.....ROW Z!!!!!flash gunner wrote:How many times do we fuck about instead of getting rid? Its Wengers philosphyRugby Gooner wrote:Rule 1: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 2: Never pass the ball towards your own box.
Rule 3: Never pass the ball towards your own box. etc,etc,etc.
We were taught that in the Junior School football team!
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Adams to Fabregas no comparisonArsenal 1991 wrote:Adams was 21 when he got the armband and John Terry is a c**t.Irish Gooner wrote:You dont fucking give kids the armband end of story
This team lacks a REAL CAPTAIN, a Tony Adams, Vieira, John Terry.