Mate. I am sorry but never in a million years can I be convinced that a midfield of Song/Ramsey/Arteta/Gervinho is better than a midfield of Bale/Modric/Lennon/Parker. Never, Never. Never. I don't know a sinle non-Arsenal fan who thinks Arsenal have a midfield anywhere near as good as the Spuds. FFS Spuds have a better midfield than ManYoo!!!Supagoon wrote:I've got to take you to task on midfield baba.
Our midfield isn't the best on paper, but we still dominate the ball, its our passing style, everyone has to play it at arsenal.
How else could you explain us seeing so much of the ball against spurs (they've got better midfielders than us!) and they were the home team. Spurs' midfield would cause problems for other teams because most other teams are inept at passing the ball in this league.
Anyway we're starting to sound like spuds obsessing over our geographical rivals. If we only aim to overhaul spurs we may well finish behind.
Just do what we usually do, delude ourselves to think we try and catch utd, fail miserably and get into the top 4.
TOTTENHAM
You honestly think that the current Cesc Fabregas-less and Nasri-devoid midfield is better than last year's side?clockender1 wrote:I guess the real question is, are we stronger than last year or not ? - our keeper is better, kos has improved, we have jenkinson as cover, Arteta and Ox look like good signings, Ramsey is back but Jack is out, RVP is the same but his backup is still poor, although Gervinho has added a more direct threat.
I think we are a little better this year but still need improvement.
Did I really read the words 'Carl Jenkinson' and 'decent professional footballer' in the same sentence?
You think Arsenal are a better team than last year's?
WOW.
Each to their own though....
I can't give up Bard!!!!OneBardGooner wrote:I gave up da spliffin' a loooong time ago...But I'm still 'slowing down'Babatunde wrote:Yo Bard!OneBardGooner wrote:Hey Bab's where you bin??...I've actually missed your (extended) posts on Wenger
Must admit I always thought Defoe could be our very decent back-up striker cos chammy is going nowhere but to another club...also defoe is a Gooner isn't he...which would be a nice 'rub the ole salt in the wounds' of the c**ts up the road...
Been around brotha, need to stop smoking pot though it's slowing me down in me older age!!! How ya doing pal?
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Eboue-Why?
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Very difficult to argue with any of thisBabatunde wrote:A few points I'd like to make on this thread I somehow started...
1. Remember when Spuds almost pipped us to 4th in 2005/6? Well here's a simple comparison. Are the current Spud team better than the Spud team under Jol back then? No question. Much better side.
Are the current Arsenal team better than the Arsenal team of back then?
No chance. The current Arsenal team are severely lacking in quality.
2. IHH made the point and I agree 100%. It's a bit concerning to see how dismissive and smug some Gooners are being about Spuds. They are ahead of us in the league and have better players.
3. Arsenal are a one-man team. If RVP gets injured, Arsenal cannot do a thing. See Marseille at home for evidence. Arsenal's attacking play is entirely reliant on one man being fit. Spuds actually have a system. If Adebayor gets injured, Defoe has proved more than capable of scoring goals. Their attacking threat comes from the wings with Bale and Lennon deadly, whilst they have far superior attacking creativity in the middle.
Take the Arsenal blinkers off for a second and it's obvious to anyone who understands football. The Spuds midfield is far, far superior to the Arsenal midfield. Only a fool would choose the Arsenal midfield.
It would take injuries to: VDV, Bale, Adebayor, Lennon and Modric for Spuds to be seriously depleted. That is SIX senior first team players. That is usually the case at top clubs, that they have so many options is takes several injuries to deplete them.
At Arsenal, all it will take is one: Van Persie.
4. I don't understand this injuries talk? Spuds have played the whole season without their first choice centre-back pairing and King doesn't even train. Yet their defence is far superior to ours, and that includes post-Mertesacker. I said it before and I will say it again: Spuds have a much better and more organized defence. Their midfield is the best in the PL outside of Citeh (better than ManYoo's even). And their keeper is far more reliable and trustworthy than ours. Arsenal are only superior to Spuds in attack. I cannot believe Wenger has been so incompetent to have taken Arsenal to the doldrums of being an inferior football personnel side to Spuds. Because we are.
5. I keep hearing from Arsenal fans on this forum that 'Spuds weren't that impressive at Shite Lane against us'. Yet they still beat us 2-1 despite playing second-rate football. What does that say about us? We lost to a disinterested Spuds side who strolled along in second gear or 'with the handbrake on' as Our Dear Leader would put it. That to me is the side of a superior side.
6. I am going to repeat a point I made long ago.
In 2008, Kolo came back from ACN with malaria. We were desperate for a defender in the Jan window and in with a shout at the title: Wenger did nothing. We finished third.
In 2009, Adebayor was injured and Arsenal desperately needed a back-up striker for the number 9 position in the January window to push us on for the league. Everyone knew it, everyone said it. Instead of going out and buying a quality striker, Wenger preferred to play the midget Arshavin as a number 9. He fucked our season yet again, even though the whole world knew Arsenal needed a striker.
In 2010, Tom Vermaelen was diagnosed with chronic tendonitis. It is a long-term injury, one that Wenger KNEW would keep TV5 out for the entire season. Arsenal were desperately short on defensive cover and Arsenal had a genuine shot at competing for the title in January. Wenger lied to the fans and claimed TV5 would soon be back; and used this as a weak cover to sign...you guessed it again, no one. I don't need to tell you that Arsenal's form became the stuff of relegation contenders as they won just twice in over fourteen games, and finished Fourth in a two-horse race.
In 2011, with the competition fiercer than ever, everyone and the whole world know that Arsenal need to sign a serious second striker who can provide competition to RVP, and work in tandem with him. The whole world sees what will happen if/when RVP breaks down. The January window is upon us, and with the very real possibility of Van Persie leaving over summer, a proper striker who can also signal ambition and intent needs to be signed to propel Arsenal.
And this decision is to be entrusted with Arsene Wenger.
The same Arsene Wenger who has thrown two serious shots at winning the league, just for the sake of arrogantly trying to do it with his kids and save his pals on the board a few pennies.
You honestly, honestly, think that with Wenger in charge, the right signings are going to be made to overtake Spuds?
You are also forgetting that Chelski will be making a serious splurge in the January window, especially if AVB is sacked and Hiddink is back in with serious monies.
The Spuds are a very, very real threat and only a fool would deny otherwise.
SMASH THE TOTTENHAM
Baba loved the Wenger as a loser
but now he's worried that he just might win
He knows the ways to stop him, but he hasnt got the discipline
How many nights he prayed for this before his work begins .
First we take the Tottenham ,then we take Berlin !
but now he's worried that he just might win
He knows the ways to stop him, but he hasnt got the discipline
How many nights he prayed for this before his work begins .
First we take the Tottenham ,then we take Berlin !
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My word processor is telling me that you just wrote 867 words about tottenham. Poor.Babatunde wrote:A few points I'd like to make on this thread I somehow started...
1. Remember when Spuds almost pipped us to 4th in 2005/6? Well here's a simple comparison. Are the current Spud team better than the Spud team under Jol back then? No question. Much better side.
Are the current Arsenal team better than the Arsenal team of back then?
No chance. The current Arsenal team are severely lacking in quality.
2. IHH made the point and I agree 100%. It's a bit concerning to see how dismissive and smug some Gooners are being about Spuds. They are ahead of us in the league and have better players.
3. Arsenal are a one-man team. If RVP gets injured, Arsenal cannot do a thing. See Marseille at home for evidence. Arsenal's attacking play is entirely reliant on one man being fit. Spuds actually have a system. If Adebayor gets injured, Defoe has proved more than capable of scoring goals. Their attacking threat comes from the wings with Bale and Lennon deadly, whilst they have far superior attacking creativity in the middle.
Take the Arsenal blinkers off for a second and it's obvious to anyone who understands football. The Spuds midfield is far, far superior to the Arsenal midfield. Only a fool would choose the Arsenal midfield.
It would take injuries to: VDV, Bale, Adebayor, Lennon and Modric for Spuds to be seriously depleted. That is SIX senior first team players. That is usually the case at top clubs, that they have so many options is takes several injuries to deplete them.
At Arsenal, all it will take is one: Van Persie.
4. I don't understand this injuries talk? Spuds have played the whole season without their first choice centre-back pairing and King doesn't even train. Yet their defence is far superior to ours, and that includes post-Mertesacker. I said it before and I will say it again: Spuds have a much better and more organized defence. Their midfield is the best in the PL outside of Citeh (better than ManYoo's even). And their keeper is far more reliable and trustworthy than ours. Arsenal are only superior to Spuds in attack. I cannot believe Wenger has been so incompetent to have taken Arsenal to the doldrums of being an inferior football personnel side to Spuds. Because we are.
5. I keep hearing from Arsenal fans on this forum that 'Spuds weren't that impressive at Shite Lane against us'. Yet they still beat us 2-1 despite playing second-rate football. What does that say about us? We lost to a disinterested Spuds side who strolled along in second gear or 'with the handbrake on' as Our Dear Leader would put it. That to me is the side of a superior side.
6. I am going to repeat a point I made long ago.
In 2008, Kolo came back from ACN with malaria. We were desperate for a defender in the Jan window and in with a shout at the title: Wenger did nothing. We finished third.
In 2009, Adebayor was injured and Arsenal desperately needed a back-up striker for the number 9 position in the January window to push us on for the league. Everyone knew it, everyone said it. Instead of going out and buying a quality striker, Wenger preferred to play the midget Arshavin as a number 9. He fucked our season yet again, even though the whole world knew Arsenal needed a striker.
In 2010, Tom Vermaelen was diagnosed with chronic tendonitis. It is a long-term injury, one that Wenger KNEW would keep TV5 out for the entire season. Arsenal were desperately short on defensive cover and Arsenal had a genuine shot at competing for the title in January. Wenger lied to the fans and claimed TV5 would soon be back; and used this as a weak cover to sign...you guessed it again, no one. I don't need to tell you that Arsenal's form became the stuff of relegation contenders as they won just twice in over fourteen games, and finished Fourth in a two-horse race.
In 2011, with the competition fiercer than ever, everyone and the whole world know that Arsenal need to sign a serious second striker who can provide competition to RVP, and work in tandem with him. The whole world sees what will happen if/when RVP breaks down. The January window is upon us, and with the very real possibility of Van Persie leaving over summer, a proper striker who can also signal ambition and intent needs to be signed to propel Arsenal.
And this decision is to be entrusted with Arsene Wenger.
The same Arsene Wenger who has thrown two serious shots at winning the league, just for the sake of arrogantly trying to do it with his kids and save his pals on the board a few pennies.
You honestly, honestly, think that with Wenger in charge, the right signings are going to be made to overtake Spuds?
You are also forgetting that Chelski will be making a serious splurge in the January window, especially if AVB is sacked and Hiddink is back in with serious monies.
The Spuds are a very, very real threat and only a fool would deny otherwise.
Before we went to chelsea you were bemoaning the fact we'd beaten mainly shit teams at home. Who the fuck have tottenham beat?
It was the same shit on this forum this time last year. They definately have the potential to finish above us but since when was this a topic for conversation in november?
There's about 4 tottenham threads on the first page of the main forum. Stop being such big jessy's.
If they re-develop White Hart Lane they won't have anymore money to spend on players like they do now - you may disagree. I certainly can't see Levy piling money into both a new stadium AND throwing money at players like they do now. That's why it's essential they win or do something this season - otherwise any players of value will be out the door.
Redknapp will be gone soon anyway. Whether it be HMP Pentonville or god forbid the England job. Levy's good history of managerial decisions will then be back in full flow.
Redknapp will be gone soon anyway. Whether it be HMP Pentonville or god forbid the England job. Levy's good history of managerial decisions will then be back in full flow.
here f**king here!LDB wrote: It was the same shit on this forum this time last year. They definately have the potential to finish above us but since when was this a topic for conversation in november?
There's about 4 tottenham threads on the first page of the main forum. Stop being such big jessy's.
