LyusN1 wrote:SouthCoastArsenal wrote:"F**k off man, I'll f**k you up, I'll kill you, get your own"
"You're a baller"
Black kids in London love to talk 'Gangster' & american slang
White kids like to sound like blacks
That's what gets my goat. Give it 10 years & 'cockney' will no longer exist.
Eastmond is an arsehole, not too impressed with Frimpong either.
Does it surprise me though? Not one little bit..........
There are actually a lot more complex sociolinguistic trends going on here than simply 'sounding black'.
It's also unlikely that Cockney will entirely cease to exist. Even comparing the way that Cockneys spoke 50 years ago to now shows a huge variation. A lot of 90/100 year old Cockney Londoners at present share only a few features with what a modern Cockney accent would sound like to us. Things will always change and innovate.
Some American words also might kick about for a bit, but then quickly fall out of favour the next.
I don't like the arrogance of players. I'm just pleased I haven't experience it close at hand - yet!
Agree with Lynus.
As daft as some of the kids sound to me these days, there is a new London accent which is a fusion of all kinds of countries' accents, which has replaced Cockney as the accent and slang of the youth.
Origins are unclear, but first I heard it spoken was in 1987 from kids in Ladbroke Grove.
Some say it is people trying to sound Jamaican, but it is certainly different from authentic Jamaican accents and slang.
But it is nothing new that kids invent their own words, or try to sound "Hip" and pick up on Black slang and flip it into something new, a process which has been going on for over 100 years...google the origins of the word Jazz for example.
And it is as fecund as ever, with the input of global TV and films a catalyst for change...my mouth dropped open when I heard a BBC newsreader use the word "Dis" to describe disrespect rather than an East Anglian town; as a Hip Hop fan I have been familiar with the word for ages but would never think to use it in everyday speech in case people did not understand it's usage.
These days Cockney is as likely to be heard in Essex and Hertfordshire, in towns where people were moved to from bomb damaged areas of the East End after the war and in the 60's.
But irrelevant of the above, Eastmond was acting in a way that no Arsenal player should.
You grass - you've broken the code, now you're gonna get it 
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