Henry Coming Back???

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A short term deal is a massive issue. It will mean Wenger doesn't even look for another quality striker. :banghead: You can see exactly what will happen. RVP will be sold next summer and we'll be left in the same situation as this year and every year where we have no replacement lined up and it'll be last minute panic again.
I am stunned that Arsene Wenger, a supposed intelligent man, NEVER learns by past mistakes? He is genuinely like a goldfish, where each season he makes the same mistakes as the last year(s).
Henry signing for Arsenal is a disaster, not because of the man himself, but because of what it means for Arsenal going forwards. We truly are in a fucking awful situation, all of Arsene Wengers making. He is killing our club and so many people are happy for it to happen?? :shock: :evil: :cry:

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AFCWozza wrote:Were very unfortunate Joel Campbell didnt get his work permit, short term loan deal is the best option, Thierry is the standout option
How can it be unfortunate exactly. The entry requirements are published and should be readily understood. The player either meets them or not. In "special circumstances" the rulings can be appealed....but if you tried to appeal and lost it surely that's a gamble that backfired rather than being 'unfortunate'.

Don't understand your point

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i'm ok with the return of henry :oops:

we won't spend big neither change the manager/board, so a guy with no pace but a shitload of ability and experience is the most we can hope for.

it's sad, but i've grown used to it. we won't sign a class striker. we'll sign 2-3 costa-rican or ivorian 15yo strikers and hope that one of them will be useful in a few years time.

i no longer feel upset by that, i grew used to it. it is both impressive how can wenger keep us on top 4 and doing relatively well in europe while we spend so much less than all the other teams - and it's also amazing how can he not realize that just a few more players, a few more dozens of millions spent on quality footballers can push us through to the first positions, and back into the chance of winning trophies.

:(

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brazilianGOONER wrote:i'm ok with the return of henry :oops:

we won't spend big neither change the manager/board, so a guy with no pace but a shitload of ability and experience is the most we can hope for.

it's sad, but i've grown used to it. we won't sign a class striker. we'll sign 2-3 costa-rican or ivorian 15yo strikers and hope that one of them will be useful in a few years time.

i no longer feel upset by that, i grew used to it. it is both impressive how can wenger keep us on top 4 and doing relatively well in europe while we spend so much less than all the other teams - and it's also amazing how can he not realize that just a few more players, a few more dozens of millions spent on quality footballers can push us through to the first positions, and back into the chance of winning trophies.

:(


Well said BG

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Looks like this is going to happen, as predicted. Honestly what a big fucking joke signing. One one hand Wenger says he won't think of signing Gourcuff as it will "kill" Diaby...but then he's looking to sign an over the hill Arsenal legend who is retired in the US? How much more of a joke dies this tosser want to turn this club into? First Fat Sol "I was in League 3". Then Jens "I'm enjoying retirement" came back. Now this. There's a reason Henry is in America FFS. What a joke.

Perhaps Harry Redknapp will follow suit and sign Sheringham on a short term deal? It's just stop gap after stop gap. Yet the fans were charged an extra 6.5% to witness this shite. It's honestly fucking embarrassing.
Laughable.

The solution is to sign a proper young quality striker like Llorente with all the cash we've got. But oh no. Van Persie must be really impressed though with the ambition being shown. Just as previous captain Cesc was when he saw Chamakh and Squillaci arrive that summer.

This is the kind of move if expect of a Derby County or Sunderland. Sorry scratch that. I don't even think Sunderland would sign Henry now!
And when Henry goes back to MLS who replaces him?? Aaaah yes. The cavalry of Chamakh and Gervinho will be back.

Fucking joke. I won't watch a legend tarnished like this and I won't watch a single game until he's returned to the US. This is beyond ridiculous now.

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Wenger must be super confident that RVP will sign a new contract, because if he doesn't then we will end up having Chamakh and Park as our main strikers next season. It will make so much sense in signing a quality striker now, it will not only help in convincing RVP to stay but also if he does leave we will have a established replacement in place.

But I can just imagine the GIC saying that we don't need a striker even after losing RVP as we will have plenty of options with Campbell and Vela coming back from loans.

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Personally I see the sense in this. I dont think that Henry will be the only attacking player brought in during the window and fully expect us to sign an experienced out and out striker and think it will probably be Podolski (not tied for CL etc) as the papers predict.

Going back to topic Henry often played on the left of an attacking three during his time at Barca, assumingly to compensate for his drop in pace when outrunnig defenders through the middle of the park - which is where Gervinho spends most of his gametime at the moment. Gervinho leaves for the ACN for a month leaving us with Arshavin, Ryo and Oxlade-Chamberlain as the cover for key games against Man Utd, AC Milan and (possibly) Spurs. Arshavin wants out and there is a very real chance that he may go whereas to throw either of the two youngsters (or potential new signings) into games of that magnitude isnt ideal either. If however you can get a player with over 250 Premier League appearances and who you know will give 100% whenever he steps foot on the field as cover whilst not disrupting the team or threatening the long term futures of the younger players, whilst possibly helping there progess at the same time, all add up to me.

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Steviegooner wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:i'm ok with the return of henry :oops:

we won't spend big neither change the manager/board, so a guy with no pace but a shitload of ability and experience is the most we can hope for.

it's sad, but i've grown used to it. we won't sign a class striker. we'll sign 2-3 costa-rican or ivorian 15yo strikers and hope that one of them will be useful in a few years time.

i no longer feel upset by that, i grew used to it. it is both impressive how can wenger keep us on top 4 and doing relatively well in europe while we spend so much less than all the other teams - and it's also amazing how can he not realize that just a few more players, a few more dozens of millions spent on quality footballers can push us through to the first positions, and back into the chance of winning trophies.

:(


Well said BG
I too have no problem with Henry coming back. I think it is a good short term deal (it will help the team and give the club a boost) IF he gets Chamakh and Arshavin out and then adds to it with another top signing to help VP.

Henry wouldn't do it unless he felt he could hack it..I'm sure he has no wish to make himself look an idiot.

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This signing is like Wenger giving someone AIDS, then putting a Band-Aid over a cut on their finger. Completely inadequate. But better than the alternative.

It will be nice to have him back, sure, and he will be a good role model for the younger lads but fuck me we should be buying Super Quality, no?

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Sorry but whats all this bullshit about "without impeding the younger players"? Only at small time clubs are big players not signed so kids can be given a chance. Whatever happened to competition? Fabregas was behind Vieira and Gilberto but still made it. When you're good enough you make it. So whose progress will a new quality striker be stopping?
Chamakh? Vela? Park? Who else? LOL.

Even funnier is to read people expecting another signing up top will be made alongside Henry. Dream on. Living in la-la land.

The club makes £3 mil a home game, 6.5% extra, most expensive ST in Europe and its re-signing over the hill legends winding down their careers in the US. The irony is, signing Henry limits the Ox chances for two months!!! :roll:

It's Wenger doing things on the cheap. As he did with Sol and with Jens. When you've got over £70 million cash reserves, and yet your fans are defending the signing of a finished player - whilst the rest of the league is laughing at you - then its no wonder I keep saying it:

The reason Wenger continues to make a mockery of our club is because Arsenal have possibly the most unambitious and easily pleased fanbase of any "big club" (lol) in Europe.

Any other serious club with our funds would have fans massively dissatisfied about this. Especially when we look like missing our on CL footie. It'd be ok if we were top and topping up our attack a bit. We're not though.

RVP wants to see ambition and you think a 34 year old MLS striker who used to play for us is going to convince him?!

Ridiculous.

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SWLGooner wrote:This signing is like Wenger giving someone AIDS, then putting a Band-Aid over a cut on their finger. Completely inadequate. But better than the alternative.

It will be nice to have him back, sure, and he will be a good role model for the younger lads but fuck me we should be buying Super Quality, no?
How??? Do you remember his last season here?? If a misplaced pass didn't go to him he'd throw his hands in the air in despair, he never encouraged anyone either (young or old), he was shit in the final year, shit as captain and another who stayed one season too long.

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Babatunde wrote:Sorry but whats all this bullshit about "without impeding the younger players"? Only at small time clubs are big players not signed so kids can be given a chance. Whatever happened to competition? Fabregas was behind Vieira and Gilberto but still made it. When you're good enough you make it. So whose progress will a new quality striker be stopping?
Chamakh? Vela? Park? Who else? LOL.

Even funnier is to read people expecting another signing up top will be made alongside Henry. Dream on. Living in la-la land.

The club makes £3 mil a home game, 6.5% extra, most expensive ST in Europe and its re-signing over the hill legends winding down their careers in the US. The irony is, signing Henry limits the Ox chances for two months!!! :roll:

It's Wenger doing things on the cheap. As he did with Sol and with Jens. When you've got over £70 million cash reserves, and yet your fans are defending the signing of a finished player - whilst the rest of the league is laughing at you - then its no wonder I keep saying it:

The reason Wenger continues to make a mockery of our club is because Arsenal have possibly the most unambitious and easily pleased fanbase of any "big club" (lol) in Europe.

Any other serious club with our funds would have fans massively dissatisfied about this. Especially when we look like missing our on CL footie. It'd be ok if we were top and topping up our attack a bit. We're not though.

RVP wants to see ambition and you think a 34 year old MLS striker who used to play for us is going to convince him?!

Ridiculous.
I wonder how many Utd fans said the same about Henrik Larsson in 2007, we need short term cover which Henry offers. I think people are forgetting that its for 2 MONTHS. Some people on here just seem to have it in for everything the club does lately.

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Babatunde wrote:Sorry but whats all this bullshit about "without impeding the younger players"? Only at small time clubs are big players not signed so kids can be given a chance. Whatever happened to competition? Fabregas was behind Vieira and Gilberto but still made it. When you're good enough you make it. So whose progress will a new quality striker be stopping?
Chamakh? Vela? Park? Who else? LOL.

Even funnier is to read people expecting another signing up top will be made alongside Henry. Dream on. Living in la-la land.

The club makes £3 mil a home game, 6.5% extra, most expensive ST in Europe and its re-signing over the hill legends winding down their careers in the US. The irony is, signing Henry limits the Ox chances for two months!!! :roll:

It's Wenger doing things on the cheap. As he did with Sol and with Jens. When you've got over £70 million cash reserves, and yet your fans are defending the signing of a finished player - whilst the rest of the league is laughing at you - then its no wonder I keep saying it:

The reason Wenger continues to make a mockery of our club is because Arsenal have possibly the most unambitious and easily pleased fanbase of any "big club" (lol) in Europe.

Any other serious club with our funds would have fans massively dissatisfied about this. Especially when we look like missing our on CL footie. It'd be ok if we were top and topping up our attack a bit. We're not though.

RVP wants to see ambition and you think a 34 year old MLS striker who used to play for us is going to convince him?!

Ridiculous.
Agree with Baba on this. We need to spend money on a proven top level goalscorer, on a permanent contract. However I have no confidence in the club doing this.

Recently Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy have had their heads turned as they thought they would win trophies elsewhere. Signing some big names may prevent RVP leaving us in similar circumstances.

Henry should be remembered as he was in all his glory, perhaps one of the greatest players ever to play the game. Not a 34 year old who is past his peak.

However if I had to choose between signing Henry as a striker in Jan and signing nobody (which I fear is the alternative) I would have him. Henry deserves better than that though and so do we.

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Rocky Number Seven wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Sorry but whats all this bullshit about "without impeding the younger players"? Only at small time clubs are big players not signed so kids can be given a chance. Whatever happened to competition? Fabregas was behind Vieira and Gilberto but still made it. When you're good enough you make it. So whose progress will a new quality striker be stopping?
Chamakh? Vela? Park? Who else? LOL.

Even funnier is to read people expecting another signing up top will be made alongside Henry. Dream on. Living in la-la land.

The club makes £3 mil a home game, 6.5% extra, most expensive ST in Europe and its re-signing over the hill legends winding down their careers in the US. The irony is, signing Henry limits the Ox chances for two months!!! :roll:

It's Wenger doing things on the cheap. As he did with Sol and with Jens. When you've got over £70 million cash reserves, and yet your fans are defending the signing of a finished player - whilst the rest of the league is laughing at you - then its no wonder I keep saying it:

The reason Wenger continues to make a mockery of our club is because Arsenal have possibly the most unambitious and easily pleased fanbase of any "big club" (lol) in Europe.

Any other serious club with our funds would have fans massively dissatisfied about this. Especially when we look like missing our on CL footie. It'd be ok if we were top and topping up our attack a bit. We're not though.

RVP wants to see ambition and you think a 34 year old MLS striker who used to play for us is going to convince him?!

Ridiculous.
I wonder how many Utd fans said the same about Henrik Larsson in 2007, we need short term cover which Henry offers. I think people are forgetting that its for 2 MONTHS. Some people on here just seem to have it in for everything the club does lately.
Oh was Henrik Larsson in the MLS when ManUre signed him as cover? I never knew? :roll:

And were ManYoo scraping it out for CL football when they signed him? Oooops they were top, and ended up winning the league.

My original point?
That it's ok to make such signings when you're top and just need that extra reassurance. ManYoo already had a killer squad, and Larsson hardly played much.

Arsenal have a shit squad. It hence makes sod all sense to be signing short term inadequate solutions to long term problems, especially when your only world class player is on the verge of buggering off.

Thanks for reinforcing my point though (that such signings are only acceptable when you're at the top and in need of not much)
:oops:

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Post by Babatunde »

Spot on Hugh Jardon, especially with the comment:
"Henry deserves better and do do we".

On the money
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