Aaron Ramsey - statistics and form etc.

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Re: Aaron Ramsey

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Another poor performance from a poor player, who seems to drag the performance of the whole team down every time he starts a game, yet seems to be given grace by many on here because of his leg break. He is shite end of :evil:
Some other awful performances, eg Walcott and the "forehead" when he came on.
The worst of all though being from Wenger himself, here we where in a game, needing a goal against relegation candidates, yet we didn't have a striker Wenger could trust to come off the bench and try to get that goal, fucking disgraceful.

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On form, Ramsey is a decent player IMHO. But he is shot confidence-wise at the moment and also looks lacking in full fitness. Wether he can ever get that canfidence back is what will ultimately decide his future in the game. I'd rate his chances of a top level career at 50/50 tbh. I really hope he makes it, but the team must come first. He should not be on the pitch given his current form.

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I worry about Ramsey's approach to the game at the moment. You would think that if you're out of form the best thing to do is work hard, receive the ball, pass and move, keep it simple and try to work yourself back into the rhythm of the game. Instead, he tries backheels, the crappiest Cruyff-turns I've seen for years and assorted flicks. I'm sure they worked well in the playground but he's a liability at the moment.

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A shocking performance from him last night. I could see on his face as he trudged off that the kid is really down. Wenger needs to do what any half decent manager would do - give him a break and let him recouperate in the reserves

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He's off form at the moment. A poor performance last night but almost everyone else was poor as well.

I'm sure long-term he will be an excellent Arsenal player. Give him a break.

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He might be good at winning the ball back, but he his shite when it comes to doing something after. He has no vision. He either passes backwards or tries to drive and get fancy and looses the ball again. He needs to start controlling the midfield and looking for those passes, overhead to RvP and Walcott or getting it to his crossers.

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GranadaJoe wrote:I worry about Ramsey's approach to the game at the moment. You would think that if you're out of form the best thing to do is work hard, receive the ball, pass and move, keep it simple and try to work yourself back into the rhythm of the game. Instead, he tries backheels, the crappiest Cruyff-turns I've seen for years and assorted flicks. I'm sure they worked well in the playground but he's a liability at the moment.
Agree 100% and I've said it for months now. He needs to get back to doing the simple things and give up the poor Messi-impressions.

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hugh jardon wrote:He's off form at the moment. A poor performance last night but almost everyone else was poor as well.

I'm sure long-term he will be an excellent Arsenal player. Give him a break.
You should be telling that to Wenger mate - he's exposing the kid to a miserable end of season.

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Why does he appear to be so slow? He just doesn't seem to be able to change gear in any situation.

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He's awful. Truly terrible.

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during 2nd half, he tried a back heel, that went horribly wrong and gave the ball away - and a section of the ground started to get on his back

buck up Ramsey or you will be the next Arshavin

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He has played 30 Premiership games this season which is too many in terms of where he is as a player - overexposed, and now the physical consequences are kicking in

What sort of manager goes into a season losing his 2 main midfielders, knowing that another in Jack Wilshere had an injury that at the least ruled him out for months, and threw Ramsey into a regular role flanked by a deadline day signing in Arteta and Song. Diaby was also injured, leaving Frimpong and Coquelin as the back-up options.

And this is the manager people think is suddenly going to right all the wrongs in the Summer. Do me a favour

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its not the 1st time hes tried a backheel and everytime he does it he gives the ball away, thats alright when we are cruising in a game, but you would think that he would think these backheels never work for me so i must stop doing it.



Im not an admirer of him but he is only 20 so has time on his side but at the min he just doesnt look like a PL player,maybe send him out on a season long loan.

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Im sorry but im normally quite a placid poster, but I feel compelled to speak out against some of the moronic posters that dwell on these and other forums, and some of the utter tosh that has been written about Ramsey on this thread. At the end of the day Rambo has played a big part of the team that is currently 3rd in the league and he has played an equal part in all of our wins as well as losses, yet he seems to get singled out game after game. I just don’t get it?

Song is always sloppy with possession, Rosicky twists and turns once to often for my liking, Tommy V’s positioning can be quite suspect sometimes, Kos is a bit clumsy man handling players in dangerous positions far to often, Gervinhio cant shoot for sheet, and Ramsey, well Ramsey has his silly backheels. Yet he is the one who gets all of the gasps and groans and all the abuse.

In fact loads of you were on here and on twitter up in arms when the Stoke fans were callously booing him at his first game back after his break, yet match after match now he gets it from his own fans. In fact he has now been told to go and commit suicide by a so called Gooner. Some of you lot need to take a long and hard look at yourselves in the mirror me thinks.

Aaron Ramsey was never meant to play that many games this season, as he was only 20 going into it and was still getting his Arsenal education under his belt, and getting his grove back on after that horrendous leg break. However the injuries to Wilshere, Diaby, Coq and the departures of nasri & fab meant that he was thrust into a leading role way ahead of what was planned for him. Realistically he should have shared that workload way more this season, but on the whole he has performed quite satisfactorily (no more, no less) and aside from the silly back heels and tricks (which he will grow out of) , he has been a consistent performer. As he plays more, and as he gets more experience he will be a great player for Arsenal, I have no doubt of that. We just need to show him a little patience at this time.

However we live in the world of twatter, online forums and keyboard warriers where his every move is scrutinised like an unfortunate look-a-like of one of those peados the NOTW printed a couple of years ago.

Jeez just give the guy a break (no pun intended) and let him develop into the player he will become. In Wales he is rated as highly as Giggs was at the same stage of his career, and after a full summers rest, I truly believe he will really push on to become that player he is destined to become next season.

In fact, I am relishing the prospect of a team containing Theo, Ox, Rambo, Kos + others and I firmly believe we are getting a core of young players to rival the great ‘you cant win anything with kids’ Ferguson team of 94 with Beck, Scholes, Giggs and Keane et al.

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gunner_ace wrote:Im sorry but im normally quite a placid poster, but I feel compelled to speak out against some of the moronic posters that dwell on these and other forums, and some of the utter tosh that has been written about Ramsey on this thread. At the end of the day Rambo has played a big part of the team that is currently 3rd in the league and he has played an equal part in all of our wins as well as losses, yet he seems to get singled out game after game. I just don’t get it?

Song is always sloppy with possession, Rosicky twists and turns once to often for my liking, Tommy V’s positioning can be quite suspect sometimes, Kos is a bit clumsy man handling players in dangerous positions far to often, Gervinhio cant shoot for sheet, and Ramsey, well Ramsey has his silly backheels. Yet he is the one who gets all of the gasps and groans and all the abuse.

In fact loads of you were on here and on twitter up in arms when the Stoke fans were callously booing him at his first game back after his break, yet match after match now he gets it from his own fans. In fact he has now been told to go and commit suicide by a so called Gooner. Some of you lot need to take a long and hard look at yourselves in the mirror me thinks.

Aaron Ramsey was never meant to play that many games this season, as he was only 20 going into it and was still getting his Arsenal education under his belt, and getting his grove back on after that horrendous leg break. However the injuries to Wilshere, Diaby, Coq and the departures of nasri & fab meant that he was thrust into a leading role way ahead of what was planned for him. Realistically he should have shared that workload way more this season, but on the whole he has performed quite satisfactorily (no more, no less) and aside from the silly back heels and tricks (which he will grow out of) , he has been a consistent performer. As he plays more, and as he gets more experience he will be a great player for Arsenal, I have no doubt of that. We just need to show him a little patience at this time.

However we live in the world of twatter, online forums and keyboard warriers where his every move is scrutinised like an unfortunate look-a-like of one of those peados the NOTW printed a couple of years ago.

Jeez just give the guy a break (no pun intended) and let him develop into the player he will become. In Wales he is rated as highly as Giggs was at the same stage of his career, and after a full summers rest, I truly believe he will really push on to become that player he is destined to become next season.

In fact, I am relishing the prospect of a team containing Theo, Ox, Rambo, Kos + others and I firmly believe we are getting a core of young players to rival the great ‘you cant win anything with kids’ Ferguson team of 94 with Beck, Scholes, Giggs and Keane et al.
Well said.

Ramsey is in poor form at the moment, nobody is arguing with that. But that doesn't make him a rubbish player, a liability, never going to make it, etc.

As I said previously, the kid looked class when he broke into the first team but unfortunately he got his leg snapped by that inbred.

This is his first season back after that injury and he played pretty much every game in the first half of the season. Now people wonder why he's burnt out, playing badly, off form. The guy is 20 years old, playing his first full season in the Prem, and trying to find form after a horrendous injury, and his own fans are now on his back.

Did people expect him to come straight back into the XI and rip defences apart? Become a new Fabregas? I think people need to realise that players like Fabregas don't come along every season. Some players take time to develop and improve.

I've no doubt whatsoever that Ramsey will be quality and I agree 100% that he's off form and shouldn't be in the starting XI now. But that's Wenger's fault. It will be a damn shame if he's quality for another team because he was hounded out by impatient moron Arsenal fans.

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