Calum Chambers is a Gooner, Welcome to the Arsenal

[rodders999]

Wish the lad all the best but I can't help thinking that if someone had suggested on here 2 weeks ago that we sign him, they would have been laughed out of town. Now suddenly the sun shines out his arse. We will wait and see I suppose.

[DB10GOONER]

Ultimately, when you sign a player, you take a punt. With very few exceptions, you are taking a chance. Chambers may turn out to be a master stroke. Or may not. But I think NB123 makes a very relevant point in that we now have £16m less in the coffers - and we still need to address key positions like DM and another proven CH.

I'm certainly not complaining about Arsenal FINALLY spending some serious money, but I would hope we don't just spend to be seen spending, but rather buy in the players we need to fill the positions we actually need filled.

[mcdowell42]

Marco Reus has turned down a new contract at Borussia Dortmund. (BILD)
12:00pm - 29 Jul 14

Oops wrong thread

[DB10GOONER]

Marco Reus has turned down a new contract at Borussia Dortmund. (BILD)
12:00pm - 29 Jul 14

Oops wrong thread

Too many toes on each hand, huh? Makes it difficult to type. Poor culchie swamp donkey.

[augie]

Peoples obsession with transfer prices always make me laugh. The market dictates the cost of a player, not us or even Arsenal. Chambers is a highly rated young english defender. He wouldn't be signed for anything less. Now do you want Wenger to pay cheaper prices for young foreign players, or would you like him to sign a young English player for a little bit more?

It baffles me that people are moaning about spending money when we've been wanting them to spend money all along.

I don't care of it's 16M, the money side shouldnt bother any supporter when we pay these ticket prices, rather see it spent than for the 'powder to be kept dry'

So when the worlds greatest danish striker got his last bumper pay rise we shouldnt be bothered by it ? Or we shouldnt be bothered about the excessive wages paid out to below average al, denilson, diaby etc etc over the past few seasons ? I doubt if there was a Gooner anywhere that hasnt moaned about the wages paid out to c*nts like these in the past few seasons, but yet we are meant to detatch ourselves from the money when it is transfer fee related ? As fans we want to see our club using it's financial resources wisely regardless of whether it be transfer fee's or wages we talking about - at the same time I'm not going to keeping putting my hand in my pocket to pay excessive prices to useless b*stards (yes I include le cock in that) just cos the club fcuked up giving them unrealistic contracts in the first place

[1989]

Calum's initiation song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1eRNxBVqqY

[StuartL]

Calum's initiation song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1eRNxBVqqY

Does he not know the words to "the wanky Tottenham hotspur" yet

[beck]

whats with all the british players

couple of years ago we had none

looks a good player and delighted to see the club finally spending big.

Walcott wilshere ox ramsey jenkinson Gibbs all in the 12/13 squad

[beck]

I for one welcome our new extremely expensive and inexperienced back up right back centre back defensive midfield!!!

No, seriously I'd never fucking hear of him till a week ago, but then I'm not a talent scout. Bloody expensive though for a new talent. These days you've got to pay 15million just to get someone your Average Fan has even heard of!

Played against us in the 2-2 draw at Southampton on the 6 months ago
Had a very good game

[Gunnersaurus]

Peoples obsession with transfer prices always make me laugh. The market dictates the cost of a player, not us or even Arsenal. Chambers is a highly rated young english defender. He wouldn't be signed for anything less. Now do you want Wenger to pay cheaper prices for young foreign players, or would you like him to sign a young English player for a little bit more?

It baffles me that people are moaning about spending money when we've been wanting them to spend money all along.

I don't care of it's 16M, the money side shouldnt bother any supporter when we pay these ticket prices, rather see it spent than for the 'powder to be kept dry'

So when the worlds greatest danish striker got his last bumper pay rise we shouldnt be bothered by it ? Or we shouldnt be bothered about the excessive wages paid out to below average al, denilson, diaby etc etc over the past few seasons ? I doubt if there was a Gooner anywhere that hasnt moaned about the wages paid out to c*nts like these in the past few seasons, but yet we are meant to detatch ourselves from the money when it is transfer fee related ? As fans we want to see our club using it's financial resources wisely regardless of whether it be transfer fee's or wages we talking about - at the same time I'm not going to keeping putting my hand in my pocket to pay excessive prices to useless b*stards (yes I include le cock in that) just cos the club fcuked up giving them unrealistic contracts in the first place

Yes, its as simple as that, we can all have an opiniom on wages and if we think.someone is worth it or not but ultimately unless you are a boardmember or shareholder your opinion is just that, no supporter can think they have a right to manage the club but we certainly have the right to want the best players to be signed.

As a supporter we do have a right to expect the club to invest our money on buying players, what they pay them is not our business, as long as its there thats all you need to worry about.

You can't have it both ways, you can't slate the club for not spending money then slate the club for spending too much.

[northbank123]

Peoples obsession with transfer prices always make me laugh. The market dictates the cost of a player, not us or even Arsenal. Chambers is a highly rated young english defender. He wouldn't be signed for anything less. Now do you want Wenger to pay cheaper prices for young foreign players, or would you like him to sign a young English player for a little bit more?

It baffles me that people are moaning about spending money when we've been wanting them to spend money all along.

I don't care of it's 16M, the money side shouldnt bother any supporter when we pay these ticket prices, rather see it spent than for the 'powder to be kept dry'

So when the worlds greatest danish striker got his last bumper pay rise we shouldnt be bothered by it ? Or we shouldnt be bothered about the excessive wages paid out to below average al, denilson, diaby etc etc over the past few seasons ? I doubt if there was a Gooner anywhere that hasnt moaned about the wages paid out to c*nts like these in the past few seasons, but yet we are meant to detatch ourselves from the money when it is transfer fee related ? As fans we want to see our club using it's financial resources wisely regardless of whether it be transfer fee's or wages we talking about - at the same time I'm not going to keeping putting my hand in my pocket to pay excessive prices to useless b*stards (yes I include le cock in that) just cos the club fcuked up giving them unrealistic contracts in the first place

Yes, its as simple as that, we can all have an opiniom on wages and if we think.someone is worth it or not but ultimately unless you are a boardmember or shareholder your opinion is just that, no supporter can think they have a right to manage the club but we certainly have the right to want the best players to be signed.

As a supporter we do have a right to expect the club to invest our money on buying players, what they pay them is not our business, as long as its there thats all you need to worry about.

You can't have it both ways, you can't slate the club for not spending money then slate the club for spending too much.

Fair enough if we are talking about whining over £1-2m on a fee for a good signing, but to use that as a blanket approach is complete tunnel-vision thinking.

When we panicked after Flamini and put the likes of Almunia, Djourou, Squillaci, Bendtner, Denilson, Flappy and Diaby on long-term deals earning twice what they would anywhere else, we pissed away millions in wages and forfeited transfer fees when they refused to leave - who knows who we passed on from 2010-2014 because of that financial black hole?

It's such a simplistic approach to say it doesn't matter. I don't know if you may have heard Wenger and the board mention it once or twice but we are self-sustainable? If we spend £16m on a player now, that is going to be recuperated at some point. It may be by selling players now, it may be by passing on a player in 2 years' time because our budget is less due to this £16m signing and we can't therefore justify it.

Just because we've stopped hoarding every penny it doesn't mean that our spending now won't have an affect on future transfer fnunds.

[Gunnersaurus]

No offence but its a bit naive to compare what happened then to what is clearly happening now.

The club couldnt afford to go for the Ozils or Sanchez back then so had to gamble on the lesser known players, some worked, some clearly didnt but that was the path we took, what would you have prefered? to keep the players on low wages? sods law is they would have all turned into superstars and fucked off, just so happens that most of them was shit and we was stuck with them, that was the path and unless you have a crystal ball you dont onow what way its gonna go, Im sure at youth level they were all highly rated.

Its easy to judge those players now because weve seen what they produced but when they were given good deals it was gambling on a potential bright future and hoping to tie down what was supposed to be the next crop of good ones, Ramsey was given a second deal when he didnt deserve it, I remember being irate, that gamble worked, more failed than worked butnit was a clear path..

Now its completely different, anyone arguing that its not is an idiot without sugar coating it, the club are clearly in a position to make a 19 year old its 3rd most expensive signing in history or sign Sanchez and Ozil for 30m+ and no one should be complaining about it and if they do they should just think back to those times when we was hoping for Schwartzer or Hangerlaand to sign and we had to endure Squillaci and Santos, off course, a lot of those were signed because the club fucked itself with those gambles but most of them are gone now and we clearly can spend so some should stop moaning about what we spend and enjoy it before they turn into that old drunk in the pub that rants at everyone who no one takes notice of anymore because its become tiresome.

[northbank123]

I used those contracts as an example of how expenditure has influenced our transfer policy. Unless we have suddenly acquired an infinite supply of money then the concept still stands, I wasn't starting a massive debate on the merits of our policy in that time. Spending £16m now will impact on future transfer policy in some way. Do you disagree with that?

We are richer and more willing to spend but we are still operating within a budget, as any company or football club does. If we went out and spend £25m on a steaming lump of turd would you still be getting fucking precious about people saying we shouldn't be spending that fee on fecal matter? No you wouldn't. You would say it was a waste of money, even if we could 'afford' to part with £25m.

Your argument isn't really that you think transfer fees are of no importance at all, it's that you think £16m is a fair amount for us to spend on a talented young player as things stand. Now I've cleared that up for you maybe we can get this thread back on track.

[Gunnersaurus]

The the crux of your point is that spending 16m on a player we may get 10 years out of in one or two positions may have an impact on future spending? well hold the front page, well done for pointing out the obvious.

Like it or hate it the club is a very well run outfit where money is concerned and if you read up on the expected money left in the kitty and money coming in I think you can relax in the knowledge that we wont be going into the overdraft soon and that we wont be struggling to earn anymore this year or next year and so on, we had a lot of money come in during the Summer for various players due to various clauses so to suggest the club is doing a Leeds and going crazy is a bit naive again, the money is there, its being spent, the squad is looking nice for a change and you are clutching at straws to find a stick to beat them with, chances are he will buy a proper DM and perhaps a striker and then you really will be fucked for amo..

If we spent 25M on a steaming pile of turd then yeah questions would be asked but so far so good and we dont need to invent made up scenarios to add any weight to an already feeble argument.

You are right though, Im glad its been cleared up, now, wheres that track to get back on.

[OneBardGooner]

There ya go mate...fill yer boots!