Gervinho....

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If recent history is anything to go by it's more likely that it will end up with Wenger offering him a new and improved contract!! :banghead: :banghead: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:If recent history is anything to go by it's more likely that it will end up with Wenger offering him a new and improved contract!! :banghead: :banghead: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :wink:
Yep if inspector clueless stays true to form he probably will....... As for Gervinho, he really is a steaming pile of shit! Wenger said the other week he was suffering from a loss of confidence being made worse by the home fans getting on his back. Well after the Reading and West brom games his confidence should of been sky high, He wasn't jeered on Saturday in fact some silly :censored: actually applauded him off!.......... So why the fuck did he stink the place out with such a piss poor performance?
Maybe because he is yet another one of Wenger's crap budget signings. He's not even that though...... Michu cost a quarter of what it cost to sign this joker.
And as for trying to round the keeper on Saturday, he's got the touch of a fucking elephant!
We need to sell while we might still get something for him, otherwise he'll be sent out on loan with us paying some of his wages just like all the other dross we have littering the club.

Rant over :evil: :evil:

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i put him in my fantasy football team due to the fact he had 2 goals and a couple of assists in recent games,but of course he reverted to fucking type and was utter shit.If he had gone any further around their GK on sat he would have to pay to get back into the stadium.I wonder will tweedledum play him tomorrow night :roll:

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sadly he is never gonna be consistent enough to cut it in the premier league,against Norwich in the frist half all our attacking moves went through him only to break down at the crucial point,had we had a quality forward instead of a headless chicken norwich would have had a first half hiding and we could have all had our feet up in the second half,instead it was left to the cavalry and the footballing brain of Podloski and the pace of Wally and the ox to salvage the match,Klingon coud have still been there now and not got us a goal,he is best suited to the mediodcre french league,not the prem and definately no way not ever the Arsenal. :banghead:

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markyp wrote:sadly he is never gonna be consistent enough to cut it in the premier league,against Norwich in the frist half all our attacking moves went through him only to break down at the crucial point,had we had a quality forward instead of a headless chicken norwich would have had a first half hiding and we could have all had our feet up in the second half,instead it was left to the cavalry and the footballing brain of Podloski and the pace of Wally and the ox to salvage the match,Klingon coud have still been there now and not got us a goal,he is best suited to the mediodcre french league,not the prem and definately no way not ever the Arsenal. :banghead:
Stream was a bit dodgy in the first half but it almost invariably froze with Gervinho in possession in a dangerous area with plenty of options, only to skip 3 seconds with Norwich going forward and audible groans from the crowd.

The best players have fantastic vision and are aware of everything going on around them a second before anybody else but they are also able to make split-second decisions. At least two or three times every game he plays, Gervinho will be tentatively running at the defender(s) in a great position and will end up just sort of stopping or passing it straight at a defender because no blatantly obvious option has slapped him round the head. It's as if if his team-mates don't make it obvious what he has to do then he doesn't have a clue.

I have genuinely never seen an attacker with such little vision or creativity. Saying that, he could still be a semi-effective player if he was willing to be more direct and use his pace to run at full-backs - many of the regulars are embarrassing in the PL and just get the ball across into a dangerous area. Unfortunately it seems like he's forgotten how to do that, because whenever he gets the ball his first thought is to slow play down and allow the defence to organise and cover, thereby negating his one asset - pace.

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Worst ever imo. And that's someone who has had the pleasure in seeing Helder et al
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northbank123 wrote:
markyp wrote:sadly he is never gonna be consistent enough to cut it in the premier league,against Norwich in the frist half all our attacking moves went through him only to break down at the crucial point,had we had a quality forward instead of a headless chicken norwich would have had a first half hiding and we could have all had our feet up in the second half,instead it was left to the cavalry and the footballing brain of Podloski and the pace of Wally and the ox to salvage the match,Klingon coud have still been there now and not got us a goal,he is best suited to the mediodcre french league,not the prem and definately no way not ever the Arsenal. :banghead:
Stream was a bit dodgy in the first half but it almost invariably froze with Gervinho in possession in a dangerous area with plenty of options, only to skip 3 seconds with Norwich going forward and audible groans from the crowd.

The best players have fantastic vision and are aware of everything going on around them a second before anybody else but they are also able to make split-second decisions. At least two or three times every game he plays, Gervinho will be tentatively running at the defender(s) in a great position and will end up just sort of stopping or passing it straight at a defender because no blatantly obvious option has slapped him round the head. It's as if if his team-mates don't make it obvious what he has to do then he doesn't have a clue.

I have genuinely never seen an attacker with such little vision or creativity. Saying that, he could still be a semi-effective player if he was willing to be more direct and use his pace to run at full-backs - many of the regulars are embarrassing in the PL and just get the ball across into a dangerous area. Unfortunately it seems like he's forgotten how to do that, because whenever he gets the ball his first thought is to slow play down and allow the defence to organise and cover, thereby negating his one asset - pace.
Agreed 100%.

I know we’ve all discussed to death the best ways to use Giroud and Podolski and Arshavin (given that Wenger hasn’t a fucking clue on how to best use them :roll: ) but I also feel that Gervinho (whilst he is admittedly pretty shit) could be more effectively used by a more pragmatic manager. It’s obvious that Wenger is still insisting that everyone (from the keeper to the tea lady) play tippy tappy Barca-Lite. So I think as soon as Forehead gets running at an oppo FB he thinks “Oh hang the fuck on – I’ve got to stop and pass it 5 yards to someone!”.

Back in the day, old skool stylee, a player like him (see TONY DALY :lol: ) would have been told; “Son you got one thing in your game – pace. Push the ball 10 or 15 yards past the FB, put on the afterburner, get to the goal line, and whip in a cross for the big lad in the box.” Then said manager would have had said player practice whipping in hundreds of crosses every training session until he was expert at it. Wenger will NEVER do this, not even as a Plan B. It’s against his purist footballing beliefs. :|

So, for me, Forehead is shit, but like Giroud especially, we could get more out of him by playing to his obvious strengths rather than crowbarring him into a system that doesn’t suit him (or most of the rest of our players tbh).

Before augie intentionally misreads :wink: what I just wrote, I’m not for a minute saying Forehead would suddenly become a great player, but I am saying he might become a better, more useful player. Might. Maybe.

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I know it's a pretty absurd comparison to make under any circumstances but a bloke who is a perfect example of using his talents to the most devastating degree is Gareth Bale (of course Gervinho could never be anywhere near as good, I'm not saying that).

For a winger he actually possesses very little 'skill' and from a standing position with a defender tight to him he doesn't stand out particularly. He was ineffective at left-back because from that position you very rarely get the chance to genuinely get one-on-one with full-backs with enough green space behind. Bale's aim is to either run in directly behind onto through balls or to isolate the full-back and literally just kick it past him and run - his game is built on nothing more than the ability to run faster off the mark than anyone else and it's a great example of a player tailoring their game to their attributes. Yes, his shooting and passing has improved but if you continually get into great positions and play every week that's going to happen in time.

If he's playing high out wide Gervinho's first instinct should be to beat his man by kicking the ball past him, simple as that. Walcott has become more willing to do this and that's the reason he has become (semi-) productive the last year or two. By slowing down and waiting for cover to arrive every time he gets the ball anywhere on the pitch he's negating his only asset.

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